The TeleZapper

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Since this is technically a technology topic I thought I'd post it here instead of AO.



Apparently the TeleZapper things on the market DO work fairly well in terms of reducing the number of telenazi calls a person gets during the course of the day... BUT ...



The Amazon description notes that there is an annoying tone made every time you pick up the phone. Are they saying EVERY time, or only those times when there's a telemarketing computer on the other end (or anonymous business-to-home calls)?



If the former it's more of a pain than the calls themselves, if the latter, I'm all over it. Anyone actually use these things? Does it make sense to get the newer 3-tone model that combats the latest tele-nazi technologies?



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  • Reply 1 of 77
    mcqmcq Posts: 1,543member
    I'm not quite sure how they all work, but at my parents house they have some sort of tele-zapper thingy that they bought at Radio Shack... I don't think there's a beep every time you pick up the phone though. It seems to work pretty well though, very few telemarketers make it through now.
  • Reply 2 of 77
    Nope, the telezapper doesn't know the difference between telemarketers and people you want to hear from, so everybody hears it.



    The way the telezapper works is by playing the first tone of the three ascending tones that you get when dial a number that is not in service. Pretty sneaky, huh?



    I don't own one, so I'm not speaking from experience. I don't know if it would be all that annoying, though; the tone sounds before you begin to speak, and is pretty short, from what I understand.



    [Edit-- I think MCQ is right-- I think telemarketers must use a distinctive ring, and the telezapper recognizes it. I think. ]



    [ 02-12-2003: Message edited by: Gamblor ]</p>
  • Reply 3 of 77
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    Yah. You would think (on the face of it) that it would have to know the difference between an anonymous call (which all telemarketing calls are) and residential calls. Says it sometimes mistakes calling card calls as telemarketers, which makes sense. Usually when I use my calling card, my friends say the city listed on their caller ID is from random places in states other than Illinois.
  • Reply 4 of 77
    I got one, all it does is play the tone whenever you (or your answering machine) picks up. it really is not that noticeable. You get used to it. it's just a simple tone that you really dont even hear becasue it plays as soon as you pick up.. at which point the phone is on it's way from the wall/desk to your head. The tone tells the telemarketer computer to disconnect.



    And yes, it does work.
  • Reply 5 of 77
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    Coolness. Guess I should get one then. I've perfected the technique of detecting that that 1 or 2 second silence before the a-hole on the other end picks up, but that doesn't rid me of their calls (only the displeasure of having to get rid of them verbally).
  • Reply 6 of 77
    Some states are also now starting "no-call" lists which the telemarketers are going to be required to respect. You put your name on the list and the state submits it to all legal telemarketers... or course this dosn't help the illigal ones and being a new program no one knows how effective its going to be.
  • Reply 7 of 77
    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    I love our telezapper. The descriptions here are right. Every single time the line is picked up on any extension in the house the telezapper plays the first tone of the diconnected number tone. There is also a more aggressive setting you chan choose to ensure that the telemarketers computers get the hint and it will play all three tones. I have it set for that. I have received 3 telemarketing calls since Christmas. Two were from local charities that did not use computer dialers and one was from MCI. That is down from 2-3 a day. It works really well. You can get the same effect for free if you record the three tones to you answering machine and simply screen all your calls. You can save $40 that way. And they also sell phones now with the telezapper technology built in. I like it.
  • Reply 8 of 77
    Isn't there supposed to be a national Do Not Call list coming about soon? I think that the FCC is setting this up soon. State lists only cover people calling from IN the state, IIRC.
  • Reply 9 of 77
    Last i heard they were having trouble setting up the nation Do Not Call list for whatever reason. So it's still on the state level for now.
  • Reply 10 of 77
    Telemarketers don't seem to respect the current state ones, dunno how a nationwide one would do. Telemarketers are going crazy right now lobbying against it.
  • Reply 11 of 77
    People, the telezapper is a cop out. I don't own one but I have lots of experience with them. You see, I'm a telemarketer. I make a pretty good deal of money selling newspaper subscriptions for the 26th largest paper in the country. I encounter telezappers all the time. They will be no more effective than copy protection on disks. It is technology and it will be cracked. It is not the way to go.



    If you don't want to get a phone call during dinner, don't answer the phone. Better yet, turn the ringer off. If your family times are so sacred, you wouldn't pick up the phone. If you just hate sales calls so much there are better things you can do to stop them. First, quit using you kids to screen calls. that is the least effective and lowest things you can do. When telemarketers talk to kids, they will simply call back until they get a responsible party no matter what you tell the kids to say. Don't lie to the telemarketer. telling them you are busy or that you don't have time simply triggers a call back as well. Also, don't just say you're not interested and hang up. That will get you a call back in a few weeks.



    Just answer the phone and politely ask them to place you on their do not call list. Those are the magic words. If them call you beck, you can sue for a nice chunk of change. You may not like telemarketing but that does not give you the right to be rude or uncivil to someone who is just doing their job. They are not a sub species of human. Don't treat them that way. You voluntarily answered the phone. Don't get mad because it's not Publisher's Clearing House giving you the ten million dollar prize. Even if it was, your telezapper probably would block the call. Food for thought.
  • Reply 12 of 77
    I'm sorry, I forgot when telemarketers were given the equivelant ethical right to call my telephone at all hours of the day without my explicit permission. Your saying we have no right to be rude to you is saying you have no right to be rude to us. By calling us, you're already being rude.



    Sure, it's legal for you to call us unless we ask to be put on a do not call list. It's also legal for us to be rude to you. Want to be treated nicely, then don't call



    I know it's your job and all, and that's wonderful, and I can sympathize to an extent. But you say you make good money, so dealing with pissed off people is just going to have to be in the job description. You've not inspired me to be nice to the telemarketers when they call me.



    Actually, I get maybe a call every couple of months, so it isn't that bad. Whenever I fill out forms asking for a home phone number, I always give my cell phone number. It is actually illegal for telemarketers to call a cellular telephone. I've been giving my cell phone number out for about five years now, and never have I received a telemarketing call on it.
  • Reply 13 of 77
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    [quote]Originally posted by Mac Voyer:

    <strong>If you don't want to get a phone call during dinner, don't answer the phone. Better yet, turn the ringer off. If your family times are so sacred, you wouldn't pick up the phone. </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Many worry about an emergency call. Is it your kids? Your parents? It's an invasion of privacy, not legally so but an invasion nonetheless.



    [quote]<strong>You may not like telemarketing but that does not give you the right to be rude or uncivil to someone who is just doing their job.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    The people you encounter are not being rude because they have some issue with you earning money, they're being rude because they're annoyed.



    [quote]<strong>They are not a sub species of human. Don't treat them that way.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Sending tones down the line does not qualify as inhumane treatment; especially not against an automated dialer.



    [quote]<strong>Don't get mad because it's not Publisher's Clearing House giving you the ten million dollar prize. Even if it was, your telezapper probably would block the call. Food for thought.</strong><hr></blockquote>







    That last bit of wit hardly qualifies.



    [quote]

    food for thought



    n : intellectual sustenance [syn: pabulum, intellectual nourishment]

    <hr></blockquote>



    Look, you work in a position that most people find annoying, didn't you know this going in? Why the indignity? When at a party do you have to think twice before you tell someone you're a telemarketer?



    If the money is as good as you claim, deal with it. If you need a position that commands a little respect then consider a career change.



    [ 02-14-2003: Message edited by: serrano ]</p>
  • Reply 14 of 77
    What I am referring to is general respect from one human being to another. I don't like panhandling, but that does not give me the right to be uncivil to another human being. For that matter, I don't care much for telemarketing. Then again, I don't like annoying sales people in stores. There are plenty of people who don't like my product or the fact that I called during dinner, but they are not uncivil. I get some people who start swearing and verbally abusing and foaming at the mouth simply because they got a phone call from a telemarketer. I feel sorry for those people. I can tell by some of the posts I see on these boards that civility is something of a lost virtue. We use any excuse to be rude. Annoyance is no excuse for bad behavior.
  • Reply 15 of 77
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    [quote]Originally posted by Mac Voyer:

    <strong>What I am referring to is general respect from one human being to another. I don't like panhandling, but that does not give me the right to be uncivil to another human being. For that matter, I don't care much for telemarketing. Then again, I don't like annoying sales people in stores. There are plenty of people who don't like my product or the fact that I called during dinner, but they are not uncivil. I get some people who start swearing and verbally abusing and foaming at the mouth simply because they got a phone call from a telemarketer. I feel sorry for those people. I can tell by some of the posts I see on these boards that civility is something of a lost virtue. We use any excuse to be rude. Annoyance is no excuse for bad behavior.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It's one thing to be civil when someone calls, but when you get 4-5 calls a day during times when they know you're at home after a long day of work AND they refuse to hang up when you tell them you're not interested, that's when I get rude.



    It's the equivalent of someone ringing my doorbell and asking me to buy something and refusing to leave until I've a) slammed the door in their face or b) told them repeatedly that I'm not interested. If this happened once-in-a-while, I'd be ok with it, but 4-5 times a NIGHT? That's absurd. You want me to be civil? Send me a postcard in the mail asking me to call YOU for service. Then I'll be civil. Until then, quit f*ing calling me. I think I'd rather be unemployed than work as a telemarketer.



    Since I moved to RTP, I've gotten a cell phone only and I give out fake numbers to all places but my bank and credit card companies and I tell them NOT to give my information out to anyone. I haven't gotten one call since then. If I have to give out a real number, I give them my work number. For some reason I haven't gotten any calls there either. The Dook system must screen them out or something.
  • Reply 16 of 77
    I'd say your very job doesn't represent you in a very positive light. Before accusing the rest of us of being uncivil, I'd re-examine what it is you actually do for a living. You profit off of calling people that, based on their reactions, you know don't want to be called and offered whatever you're selling. You also call them, as you mention, during dinner. I'm sure you're very nice when you begin talking to the people, but it doesn't change the fact that your phone call, as well as the others they received before your call, is a complete and total invasion on their lives.



    So if you don't care for telemarketing, get a new job. Apparently you enjoy telemarketing enough to keep working there, but you're willing to tell us you don't much care for other sorts of harassments. So before calling the majority of us uncivil, I would re-evaluate your current standpoint in life...
  • Reply 17 of 77
    [quote]Originally posted by Mac Voyer:

    <strong>...

    Annoyance is no excuse for bad behavior.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Bad behavior begets bad behavior.



    You don't like our reason for returning it and we don't like your reason for creating it.
  • Reply 18 of 77
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    Not to mention that telemarketers often prey upon the elderly, who can be cognitively compromised. That's just unethical behavior. I don't know how many times I've had families of possibly dementing (that's Alzheimer's and other similar disorders, not an insult) people talk about their parents spending inordinate amounts of money on things that telemarketers were hawking. You can't get respect when you do things like that.



    Die telemarketers! Die!
  • Reply 19 of 77
    jccbinjccbin Posts: 476member
    I just wish them all terminal mouth cancer and hang up.



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  • Reply 20 of 77
    Some of you people need to get some perspective. As far as taking advantage of the elderly, YOU DON'T KNOW ME! I have a grandmother and wouldn't do anything to someone else that I wouldn't have done to my own family. I know there are bad telemarketers and bad layers, and bad politicians, but that does not mean the entire profession is bad.



    Even though I don't like telemarketing, I do not compromise my principals by being a telemarketer. I'm a salesman and have done all types of sales. I'm pretty good at what I do. I sell a great product at a great price with great terms. No money up front and cancel at any time. No one is taken advantage of by me. By and large, people are glad I called. Even when they don't buy for economic reasons, we give away two week free samples. I wouldn't take just any sales job for just any company selling just any product. I have made my ethical choices. Do not assume you know what manner of man I am simply because I do a job you find distasteful. Just because I don't care for sales in general does not mean that find it unethical.



    As far as rude telemarketers go, request to placed on their DO NOT CALL list, and if they call again, SUE THEM!! I have no tolerance for rude sales people. Most legitimate businesses don't either. Your irritation does not give you license for incivility. There are appropriate responses to every situation. Seldom, if ever, is incivility appropriate or effective.



    As far as telezappers go, they will not solve your problems. They will not make telemarketers go away, not for long. Frankly, I wish a national do not call option was a part of basic telephone service. Those who have a bad reaction to such calls should know that we don't want to talk to you anymore than you wish to talk to us. Rudeness on either side of the call does not advance anyone's cause.
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