New Intel Centrino chip tomorrow

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
Not sure if this has been discussed here yet.



Here's the jist of it.



Intel Chief Executive Craig Barrett, Dell Computer CEO Michael Dell, and a host of PC companies will be on hand in New York for the release of Centrino, a collection of chips from Intel designed to transform laptops and tablet PCs into portable offices. Centrino computers, with a $1,500 starting price, will run between five and eight hours on a battery charge, the sort of energy efficiency required to make wireless Net access a habit.



Centrino consists largely of three parts: a new microprocessor called the Pentium-M, which is the heart of the project; a companion chipset; and a Wi-Fi module. Software and specialized packaging also are included.



The full article is here on cnet:

<a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1006-"; target="_blank">http://news.com.com/2100-1006-</a>;

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 15
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    There's obviously a lot of skepticism on my part, since Banias is just a well thought out P3 with a meg of cache. Centrino just refers to the combination of a bunch of intel stuff bundled together.



    I've seen the benchmarks and everything, and i don't think it's going to have an enormous effect on much of anything. It's just a chip that gives an x86 laptop a decent battery runtime.
  • Reply 2 of 15
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    However, I think it's important mainly because of two things:



    1) It moves Intel away from MHz Madness - they have to market a chip as being just as fast as their previous fastest mobile chip, despite it being lower MHz than before. It means they're actually focusing on making a chip efficient, not just clocked really high.



    2) It will bring WiFi to lots of people. Before, people didn't want to spend money for a wireless card. With Centrino, a lot more people will have it, and that will promote wireless internet access in a lot more places. Not just for coffee shops and computer stores anymore. That's good for Mac users in two ways - first, we've been using WiFi for a lot longer, since Airport was the first form of it. Also, it will cement 802.11b as a really well-entrenched standard. That means that 802.11a won't catch on nearly as well as 802.11g, because all these people will have b. Furthermore, since their 802.11b is built into their laptop, they can't just replace it with 802.11a at the drop of a hat. So I think the more widespread 802.11b is, the more likely it is the next standard will be g instead of a.
  • Reply 3 of 15
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    not so fast, just about every single PC laptop on the market has a PC Card slot, adding 802.11a should be easy as pie, if rather pointless in most cases. Also, Intel doesn't necessarily argue that it's new banias chips are faster than high clock p4m, unless they've changed their tune, early on they still said the fastest laptops would use p4m, still.



    And 802.11a may not be dead yet. Mobile access networks for traffic and other in-car services aresaid to be considering 802.11a. I asked this before but no one knew, so i'll ask again, is there any advantage to 802.11a that would make it better suited to blanketing large areas with service in a way in which b/g are unlikely to be used?



    .13u g4's should once again vault Apple's battery life to industry leading numbers.
  • Reply 4 of 15
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    True, if people wanted to, they could upgrade to 802.11a and leave their 802.11b built in. However, even that involves some cost, which a lot of people won't want to pay. Look at PCs today... most have serial and parallel ports, which are nearly useless by today's standards. Yet they are there, because people don't want to spend $50 or so for a new printer that uses USB instead of Parallel. I don't know which new wireless standard will win out in the end, but either way, 802.11b will be around for quite a while.
  • Reply 5 of 15
    Matsu,



    check out 3Com's article:

    <a href="http://www.3com.com/corpinfo/en_US/technology/tech_paper.jsp?DOC_ID=5392"; target="_blank">a vs b</a>



    And as far as Centrino...



    Nothing special, it looks promising on paper, but when u start using it it sucks.

    just like tablets, (boy do they suck) :-)



    :-)
  • Reply 6 of 15
    kecksykecksy Posts: 1,002member
    The funny thing is, Apple doesn't need a new chip with fancy power management. The G4 is already a low-power, embedded device. Why do you think PowerMacs still use passive cooling, and everything on the PC side is active?
  • Reply 7 of 15
    mcqmcq Posts: 1,543member
    Agreed... the battery life is definitely an improvement based on reviews I've read at Anandtech and C|Net, but in comparison to the Powerbook it seems like the new Pentium-M notebooks are a little better than the Powerbook, but not by much. The battery life on the Pentium-M tested range from 4-5 hours on Bapco's tests that measure Office/Internet/Graphics Apps, while the 1 GHz Powerbook was tested at 3 hours running a DVD according to C|Net (so I assume that the 1 GHz would run about 4 hours on normal tasks). It's a very solid improvement for Intel-based notebooks, but outside of the Thinkpad T40 with hi-capacity battery (7 hours even on office tasks is very impressive, though the hi-capacity battery adds a bit of weight/size), it doesn't blow out the Powerbook by any means.
  • Reply 8 of 15
    macsrgood4umacsrgood4u Posts: 3,007member
    Just saw a Centrino ad (sounds like the name of a vitamin pill to me) on TV. Sure sounds like Jeff Goldblum doing the voice offer. Anybody else think so as well?
  • Reply 9 of 15
    mcqmcq Posts: 1,543member
    I didn't really pay attn to who did the voiceover, but it seems like that ad is running about every 20 minutes... I must've seen it at least 10 times already today.
  • Reply 10 of 15
    flounderflounder Posts: 2,674member
    [quote]Originally posted by MacsRGood4U:

    <strong>Just saw a Centrino ad (sounds like the name of a vitamin pill to me) on TV. Sure sounds like Jeff Goldblum doing the voice offer. Anybody else think so as well?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Hmmm, just saw one of the commercials. That IS 'ol Jeffy boy. What a hoar!



    Apple. Toyota, Intel. Are there any others? Looks like he's gunning for B.B. King to win the "advertising hoar of the year" award.
  • Reply 11 of 15
    cubedudecubedude Posts: 1,556member
    [quote]Originally posted by MacsRGood4U:

    <strong>Just saw a Centrino ad (sounds like the name of a vitamin pill to me) on TV. Sure sounds like Jeff Goldblum doing the voice offer. Anybody else think so as well?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I've seen that damn ad three times today, twice on TechTV(during The Screen Savers) and once on NBC(during ED, which is on now). Too bad Apple didn't market the 'books this aggressiveley.
  • Reply 12 of 15
    Funny I went to the Intel website to find out clock speeds and had somewhat of a hard time finding it. I guess they don't want to advertise that they run at 1.6Ghz at the top.
  • Reply 13 of 15
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    The Centrino seems to be a good way for PCs to compete with Macs in the market of small, but not TOO small, full featured, and low cost laptops. Like the iBook. Most PCs couldn't match the features - small, built-in optical drive, good battery life, and under $1500 (or even under $1000 in some cases!). But now the Centrino basically lets them get the size down and the battery life up. I think there will be a lot more iBook-like PCs out, and that's a good thing. It will get Apple on the ball to truly make this the year of the laptop for them, not just for PC companies. Also, AMD released a bunch of new mobile chips today as well.



    As far as 802.11a vs. 802.11b and g, it seems (from reading that document) that a would be better than g assuming that b wasn't so widespread and popular. I dunno. I'll be interested to see what happens. All I know is that my iBook's AirPort card will be compatible with 99% of wireless networks for quite a while.
  • Reply 14 of 15
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    The battery life issue is almost pure marketing. Intl is advocating smaller notebook designs...With smaller notebooks, you get smaller screens and other battery draining features missing.



    It's going to be a hard sell for OEMs who are already ignoring the P4-M and using desktop P4 chips in laptops. For example, the Inspiron 8500, 8200, 4150 use P4-Ms while the other models use desktop P4s. Adding a third chip to the mix is going to be interesting.
  • Reply 15 of 15
    macsrgood4umacsrgood4u Posts: 3,007member
    What the hell is a "hoar"? It's "whore" if a female and in the case of Goldblum "male prostitute" or something like that. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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