Swiss family arrested for $1M counterfeit iPhone repair fraud

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in General Discussion edited August 2020
A mother and son in Switzerland are accused of passing off fake iPhones in a $1 million warranty scam that saw them exchanged for real ones by Apple.

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In a similar case to one in Oregon in 2019, two members of a Swiss family are accused of a scam involving counterfeit iPhones. Both face prison and one could then be expelled from Switzerland.

According to Swiss broadcaster SRF's news site, a male 34-year-old Chinese resident in the canton of Aargau in northern Switzerland, was receiving fake iPhones and taking them to Apple Stores. Presenting them as faulty, he allegedly asked for replacements under Apple Care and received them.

He would then send the genuine iPhones on to a friend in Hong Kong, where they would be sold. Reportedly, he did this repeatedly from 2015 to 2019. In 2016, the man's 56-year-old mother helped out, the court indictment says in translation, "because the son didn't have time."

The fake iPhones typically had water damage that meant the batteries appeared swollen, meaning an Apple Store would not be able to open the casing. The phones also had the same Apple IMEI numbers as real ones that had Apple Care, so they qualified for replacement on payment of a small fee.

SRF says that the man would each time pay Apple a fee of 99 Swiss francs, or approximately $107.32. Reportedly, the man or his mother would then earn a commission of 10 Swiss francs, or $10.84.

Package seized

The operation was discovered by customs officials in the city of Basel, who found two packages containing a total of 50 fake iPhones. Officials estimate that the mother had taken phones to various Apple Stores 100 times, and the son a further 900 times.

This makes their total estimated commission from the four years to $10,840. The Aargau public prosecutor's office is seeking fines for both people, plus 18 months imprisonment for the mother, and four years for the son. In addition, the son may then be expelled from Switzerland for a period of seven years.

While the case is being brought by the local public prosecutor's office in Baden District Court, SRF says that Apple acts "acts as a private plaintiff." Apple is said to claim that the scam cost the company $1 million.

Lawyers for the defendants assert that they did not know the iPhones were fake, and that they trusted their Hong Kong friend. They say that they believed these were real iPhones and that they were faulty because, quotes SRF in translation, "Chinese people have problems with Apple's service time and again."

The case is scheduled for Monday August 3 and Tuesday August 4.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 16
    hucom2000hucom2000 Posts: 149member
    The lawyer who is taking on this case better not work on commission...  :D
    flyingdpwatto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 16
    tommikeletommikele Posts: 599member


    "But detective, he was our dear friend from China. We trusted he was legit and had proper ownership of the 1000 iPhones he sent us from China. We had no reason to think they were counterfeit or something illegal was going on."

    Only 18 months in jail for her and four years for him for a $1million scam that went on for four years and involved more than 1000 fake iPhones? Ridiculously soft punishment.

    I wonder what punishment the Chinese authorities would have handed out if it were their jurisdiction or if they will do anything to apprehend the scammers in China who were behind this. Probably not.
  • Reply 3 of 16
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    So how did they get the IMEI numbers of real iPhones and how did they know those iPhones had active AppleCare protection. Sound like some kind of inside job in China to me.
    flyingdpBeatstommikeleronnwatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 16
    XedXed Posts: 2,543member
    Swiss family robbing-some?
    edited August 2020 bonobobmwhiteflyingdprandominternetpersontommikeleronndewmeentropysbestkeptsecretwatto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 16
    XedXed Posts: 2,543member
    hucom2000 said:
    The lawyer who is taking on this case better not work on commission...  :D
    Or elect to get paid in iPhones.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 16
    XedXed Posts: 2,543member
    lkrupp said:
    So how did they get the IMEI numbers of real iPhones and how did they know those iPhones had active AppleCare protection. Sound like some kind of inside job in China to me.
    Not everything in some evil plot by China. There are plenty of online IEMI number generators, there are probably patterns to iPhone IEMI blocks, and I seem to recall that you only need a valid serial number (which is created systematically) to verify an iPhone via Apple's website. Plus, most countries haven't made IEMI changing illegal.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 16
    bonobobbonobob Posts: 382member
    That “Swiss” family sure got cheated with those tiny commissions.  but considering the cheats they themselves are, it’s fine by me.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 16
    BeatsBeats Posts: 3,073member
    Apple employees knew they were counterfeit iPhones when the Android logo popped up on startup.

    Xed said:
    lkrupp said:
    So how did they get the IMEI numbers of real iPhones and how did they know those iPhones had active AppleCare protection. Sound like some kind of inside job in China to me.
    Not everything in some evil plot by China. There are plenty of online IEMI number generators, there are probably patterns to iPhone IEMI blocks, and I seem to recall that you only need a valid serial number (which is created systematically) to verify an iPhone via Apple's website. Plus, most countries haven't made IEMI changing illegal.

    Why should he not be suspicious? With all the scumbaggery coming from China, they do not deserve our respect.
    tommikelelkruppwatto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 16
    Not sure if my previous comment showed up but - yes, how they got real IMEI numbers is the trick. Must be from the factories in China. As for China having more 'scumbaggery' not sure about that. But certainly their central govt. is ripe for corruption being under basically one man rule and the state oversight is geared towards surveillance of 'dangerous people' vs. criminal activity, especially when the criminal activity benefits those in power...hummm ... sounds like another country I know about...what...
    ronnXednormmwatto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 16
    neilmneilm Posts: 987member

    Swiss family arrested for $1M counterfeit iPhone repair fraud

    Except it wasn’t a Swiss family. Who writes these headlines?
    qwerty52bonobobwatto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 16
    qwerty52qwerty52 Posts: 367member
    AppleInsider said:
    Reportedly, the man or his mother would then earn a commission of 10 Swiss francs, or $10.84.


    I am sure, that they have received some commissions from their China's friend too.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 12 of 16
    XedXed Posts: 2,543member
    neilm said:

    Swiss family arrested for $1M counterfeit iPhone repair fraud

    Except it wasn’t a Swiss family. Who writes these headlines?
    Your cheese is full of holes. The article says, "a resident in the canton of Aargau in northern Switzerland,' and the definition of Swiss is "relating to Switzerland or its people." Even if they are only a resident, but not a national, it's still relating to Switzerland.
    ronnwatto_cobra
  • Reply 13 of 16
    Really close to home. 

    Interesting to see how much “China hate” a lot of people here is able to show. Here there is a son, a mother and maybe another two people in HK. 

    Not enough (at least for me) to hate a country with 1.500.000.000 people 
    lkruppXedronn
  • Reply 14 of 16
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    Really close to home. 

    Interesting to see how much “China hate” a lot of people here is able to show. Here there is a son, a mother and maybe another two people in HK. 

    Not enough (at least for me) to hate a country with 1.500.000.000 people 
    The hate is not for the people of China. The hate is for the dictatorial, totalitarian government that has been imposed upon them without their consent. The Chinese people do not govern themselves. They are the unwilling subjects of a corrupt regime started by the demi-god Mao Zedong.  And before you spew any pablum about Chinese “elections” remember the Chinese people have only one party to choose from and no dissent is allowed or tolerated. They are forced to take what is imposed upon them. 
    edited August 2020 watto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 16
    XedXed Posts: 2,543member
    lkrupp said:
    Really close to home. 

    Interesting to see how much “China hate” a lot of people here is able to show. Here there is a son, a mother and maybe another two people in HK. 

    Not enough (at least for me) to hate a country with 1.500.000.000 people 
    The hate is not for the people of China. The hate is for the dictatorial, totalitarian government that has been imposed upon them without their consent. The Chinese people do not govern themselves. They are the unwilling subjects of a corrupt regime started by the demi-god Mao Zedong.  And before you spew any pablum about Chinese “elections” remember the Chinese people have only one party to choose from and no dissent is allowed or tolerated. They are forced to take what is imposed upon them. 
    I'm sure people like you were telling yourselves that when the US had Japanese interment camps, too. There's far too much xenophobia and racism on this forum, but what's really odd is how people like you Spam and Razor makes sweeping claims about other nations without ever seeing the irony of the party you defend as above-the-law in the US.
    muthuk_vanalingamronn
  • Reply 16 of 16
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    Xed said:
    lkrupp said:
    Really close to home. 

    Interesting to see how much “China hate” a lot of people here is able to show. Here there is a son, a mother and maybe another two people in HK. 

    Not enough (at least for me) to hate a country with 1.500.000.000 people 
    The hate is not for the people of China. The hate is for the dictatorial, totalitarian government that has been imposed upon them without their consent. The Chinese people do not govern themselves. They are the unwilling subjects of a corrupt regime started by the demi-god Mao Zedong.  And before you spew any pablum about Chinese “elections” remember the Chinese people have only one party to choose from and no dissent is allowed or tolerated. They are forced to take what is imposed upon them. 
    I'm sure people like you were telling yourselves that when the US had Japanese interment camps, too. There's far too much xenophobia and racism on this forum, but what's really odd is how people like you Spam and Razor makes sweeping claims about other nations without ever seeing the irony of the party you defend as above-the-law in the US.
    Great straw man response! Applause! Comparing the murderous regime in China to Japanese  American internment  camps during WWII is about as ridiculous as it gets. As I and others have said repeatedly, there is no hate for the country or people of China. It’s hate for a government that those people never chose to live under. And let’s not forget the rape of Tibet, the current genocide being perpetrated against the Uyghurs. No freedom of speech, no redress against the government, no free press. The Chinese people have suffered for millennia, first under feudal emperors and now under communist dictators. That you claim that is racism or xenophobia says tons about who you are and what your agenda is.
    edited August 2020
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