'Apple Car' windshield may feature a notch for sensors

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in General Discussion edited December 2020
A future "Apple Car" is likely to include sensors to allow it to be self-driving, and some of those sensors need a window or notch to allow them to work through the plastic or fiberglass of a vehicle body.

Apple appears to be planning for a Tesla-style
Apple may be taking as many cues for "Apple Car" from "Knight Rider" as it is from Tesla (Image source: Tesla)


A newly-granted patent regarding a future "Apple Car" covers how the many sensors needed for self-driving will need to be mounted. It's a question of how best to expose the sensors so that they can function -- just as Apple had to create a notch in the iPhone so that Face ID could work.

Apple's "Sensor enclosure and glass panels for sensor enclosures," patent does not use the word notch, nor does it refer to Face ID. However, it does detail different options for having openings in a car body to allow for mounting sensors.

"[These include having] an open front portion that is positioned at the opening formed through the exterior body panel [housing] an optical-grade tempered glass panel," says Apple. So a section of a car's chassis could contain an array of sensors mounted behind glass.

The patent describes alternative suggestions such as mounting sensors within a car's bumper, but the problem Apple is trying to solve remains the same. Apple needs to house sensors in such a way that they can function and yet be protected.

"The sensors can include, as examples, visible spectrum cameras, infrared cameras, infrared emitters, and LiDAR sensors (which include emitters and detectors)," says Apple. "Some sensors are not tolerant to signal degradation that may occur when emitted and/or received signals pass through glass, plastic, or other signal transmissive materials."

There is, though, an alternative that protects the sensors and yet does allow signals to pass through. "Optical grades of glass have controlled refraction, dispersion," explains Apple, "and can be used in sensor applications to avoid signal degradation."

Unusually for a patent, Apple actually specifies components and manufacturers. It says that optical-grade glass options include n-BK7, manufactured by Schott AG, S-BSL7 manufactured by Ohara Corporation, or H-K9L manufactured by CDGM Glass Company Ltd.

Detail from the patent showing the front of a car and an opening for sensors
Detail from the patent showing the front of a car and an opening for sensors


The patent includes block drawings that show such glass positioned at the front of the "Apple Car." The drawings are not of any specific vehicle, and they are seemingly not to scale, so it's impossible to determine just how large such a sensor notch would be.

Consequently, the enclosure could be small enough to be less noticeable than the iPhone's Face ID notch. Or it could be large enough, and wide enough, to more closely resemble the red-strobing sensor on KITT, in "Knight Rider."

The patent is credited to two inventors, Christopher D. Jones and James R. Wilson. Both have multiple previous patents relating to "Apple Car," such as one for adjustable windows, and another for detecting cracks in the glass.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 13
    mac_dogmac_dog Posts: 1,069member
    Oh, no! A notch? Heaven forbid! Can’t wait to read these comments. 
    cornchipBeatsMacProbyronl
  • Reply 2 of 13
    BMW, MB, Tesla have notch in front shield for sensors already....
  • Reply 3 of 13
    ralphieralphie Posts: 105member
    No surprise, Apple just copying Samsung Motors.
    mac_dog
  • Reply 4 of 13
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Kuyangkoh said:
    BMW, MB, Tesla have notch in front shield for sensors already....
    So does my Toyota. 
  • Reply 5 of 13
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 12,886member
    So has every car I've driven -- a big ole notch for the rear-view mirror, right in the middle-top of the windscreen! 
    JapheycornchipMacProbyronl
  • Reply 6 of 13
    Let’s start a pool and take bets on when Apple will release their “Apple Transit”™ vehicle. I’m betting within the next five years (by 2025).

    [   ] Next year
    [   ] Within the next five years
    [   ] Within the next ten years
    [   ] Never
  • Reply 7 of 13
    JWSCJWSC Posts: 1,203member
    Let’s start a pool and take bets on when Apple will release their “Apple Transit”™ vehicle. I’m betting within the next five years (by 2025).

    [   ] Next year
    [   ] Within the next five years
    [   ] Within the next ten years
    [   ] Never
    [   ] When we’re all dead and buried
  • Reply 8 of 13
    cornchipcornchip Posts: 1,950member
    Let’s start a pool and take bets on when Apple will release their “Apple Transit”™ vehicle. I’m betting within the next five years (by 2025).

    [   ] Next year
    [   ] Within the next five years
    [   ] Within the next ten years
    [   ] Never


    [   ] Next year
    [   ] Within the next five years
    [ X ] Within the next ten years
    [   ] Never

    the real question is whether or not Samsung beats them to it! 
  • Reply 9 of 13
    BeatsBeats Posts: 3,073member
    Imagine all the memes over a 4 centimeter notch on a windshield?

    ralphie said:
    No surprise, Apple just copying Samsung Motors.

    iKnockoff morons are so stupid I cannot tell if you're being sarcastic anymore but I once read an iKnockoff moron say "Samsung already makes cars so Apple will claim they invented cars lol!"

    Yeah and Samsung also made knockoff Blackberries before Apple invented iPhones.
  • Reply 10 of 13
    BeatsBeats Posts: 3,073member
    cornchip said:
    Let’s start a pool and take bets on when Apple will release their “Apple Transit”™ vehicle. I’m betting within the next five years (by 2025).

    [   ] Next year
    [   ] Within the next five years
    [   ] Within the next ten years
    [   ] Never


    [   ] Next year
    [   ] Within the next five years
    [ X ] Within the next ten years
    [   ] Never

    the real question is whether or not Samsung beats them to it! 

    What I'm not looking forward to is companies manufacturing knockoff Apple Cars so 90%+ of all cars on the road look identical.

    Remember phones pre-iPhone? Computers pre-Mac? Tablets pre-iPad? etc. etc.
  • Reply 11 of 13
    @AppleInsider: I'm a big fan of your site, but these Apple car posts are just a waste of time. Why don't you post when there's something ACTUALLY interesting being revealed? 
  • Reply 12 of 13
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,420member
    hucom2000 said:
    @AppleInsider: I'm a big fan of your site, but these Apple car posts are just a waste of time. Why don't you post when there's something ACTUALLY interesting being revealed? 
    You're a waste of time.
  • Reply 13 of 13
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    cornchip said:
    Let’s start a pool and take bets on when Apple will release their “Apple Transit”™ vehicle. I’m betting within the next five years (by 2025).

    [   ] Next year
    [   ] Within the next five years
    [   ] Within the next ten years
    [   ] Never


    [   ] Next year
    [   ] Within the next five years
    [ X ] Within the next ten years
    [   ] Never

    the real question is whether or not Samsung beats them to it! 
    It will be Google who upon seeing the Apple vehicle cancel all production of their own and reverse engineer Apple's and bring out an exact copy and the tech specs to be given away free and manufactured by Samsung with rounded corners. The vehicle reports back everywhere it goes and who is in the car. It will be cheap and will dominate sales numbers although have very little profit for the makers.  Apple haters will buy it and claim it is perfect.
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