Patent troll sues Apple over Touch ID, Face ID and Apple Card

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in General Discussion edited February 2021
An Australian patent holdings company on Tuesday filed suit against Apple, targeting Touch ID and Face ID with intellectual property acquired from defunct biometrics specialist Securicom.

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CPC Patent Technologies in a complaint lodged with the patent holder-friendly U.S. District Court of the Western District of Texas alleges Apple products protected by branded biometrics -- Touch ID and Face ID -- are in infringement of three patents. The Australian firm purchased the IP from the liquidation of Securicom in 2019.

CPC is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Charter Pacific Corporation, which bills itself as an investment company with a focus on biometrics. The parent company on its website claims that it is the "global biometric patent holders for the enrollment of fingerprint, facial, voice recognition, and iris scanning on a mobile device or smart card."

At issue are U.S. Patent Nos. 9,269,208, 9,665,705 and 8,620,039, all credited to Australia-based inventor Christopher Burke. The '208 and 705 patents date back to 2003 and deal with secure access through biometrics, while the '039 patent has a filing priority date of 2005 and covers biometric security of smart cards like credit cards.

According to the filing, Apple's iPhone X, iPad Pro, second-generation iPhone SE and other products infringe on claims associated with the three patents. Specifically, devices protected by Touch ID and Face ID grant users secure access to a controlled system via enrollment and retrieval of biometric data.

Interestingly, the '208 and '705 patents detail methods of remote entry to a computing system, though the filing interprets these claims as viable because Touch ID and Face ID sensors send biometric information to Apple's Secure Enclave for database matching. Whether Burke had local data transfer in mind when conceiving of the inventions is unclear.

The '039 patent, meanwhile, details a card device reader and credential storage system with biometric safeguards. Apple Wallet's handling of Apple Card is cited as the infringing instrumentality in CPC's suit.

CPC provided Apple notice of infringement in March of 2020, with Apple's counsel indicating awareness of the '208 patent that May. The tech giant declined to license the patents.

Plaintiffs seek damages, an injunction and court fees.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 8
    This is tiring, like every notable feature Apple has, somebody would claim is already patented. I wonder if Apple already established a "Patent department/team".
    svetlanaloveliwatto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 8
    Patent infringement penalties are now just “the cost of doing business”.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 8
    This is bs. In that case go after Samsung too. Yet they don’t. Apple needs to fight this bs. I swear this dude is lying. He looks like he’s full it really.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 8
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    appleph said:
    This is tiring, like every notable feature Apple has, somebody would claim is already patented. I wonder if Apple already established a "Patent department/team".

    On the other hand Apple has a policy of not licensing tech and then effectively stealing it.    I don't know the details here but overall Apple doesn't have a good track record.   Look at what Apple did to Imagination Technologies if you don't want to believe me.    Imagination is just one firm they have screwed over royally.  

    In a nut shell too many people get on the bandwagon to defend Apple in these cases, seemingly in denial of Apple on going behavior.   Now is Apple guilty here, I have no idea as that would take a lot of time to examine all of the involved details.   I'm not however going to give Apple a free pass before the details are known.
    BEETHICAL
  • Reply 5 of 8
    What happened to patents being a specific implementation of an idea, not the idea it's self?
    Hey, I have an idea about letting people access information by biometrics! = patent
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 8
    wizard69 said:
    appleph said:
    This is tiring, like every notable feature Apple has, somebody would claim is already patented. I wonder if Apple already established a "Patent department/team".

    On the other hand Apple has a policy of not licensing tech and then effectively stealing it.    I don't know the details here but overall Apple doesn't have a good track record.   Look at what Apple did to Imagination Technologies if you don't want to believe me.    Imagination is just one firm they have screwed over royally.  

    In a nut shell too many people get on the bandwagon to defend Apple in these cases, seemingly in denial of Apple on going behavior.   Now is Apple guilty here, I have no idea as that would take a lot of time to examine all of the involved details.   I'm not however going to give Apple a free pass before the details are known.
    BS - Citations?

    What do you think Apple did to Imagination Technologies?  They stopped using them as a supplier.  Apple felt they could do it alone.  Imagination Technologies cried.  Done.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 8
    What’s weird to me is that Touch ID is technology Apple acquired by purchasing  AuthenTec back in 2012. AuthenTec had this technology going back to its inception in 1998. I think Apple has some good insulation in this case against legitimate legal action due to many of the patents AuthenTec owns. This is probably why Apple passed on licensing anything from CPC. 

    Who knows, maybe Apple can actually counter sue them if they found out that CPC copied AuthenTec‘s designs or if they were similar. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 8
    Just last week I was watching The Patent Troll, episode 7, season 4 of Silicon Valley. A funny fictional depiction of the complexity and problems with patents (and copyright). 
    watto_cobra
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