Realistic Predictions (august 2002 until mwsf 2003)

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
How about some realistic predictions of future hardware to come out of Cupertino from now until mwsf 2003?



By realistic I mean no outlandish predictions like 6 ghz g5's, martian technology, etc.



Heres mine:



August 2002:(not sure of exact date of introduction)



PowerMacs - 933, 1, 1.2 ghz g4's / 266 or 333 mhz DDR-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices, MacOS X 10.2



Monitors - NEW 17" Widescreen LCD Display w/ new PowerMac look (replaces old 17"), NEW 19" Widescreen LCD Display w/ new PowerMac look, EOL the 15" LCD Display



Mouse - with no real wow factor to the new Powermacs Apple will need something to make them seem like cool, new technology. New multi-buttoned mouse (for shake, FCP, DVDSP, etc).





September 2002 (MacWorld Paris?)



Powerbooks - 800, 933, 1 ghz g4's / 133 mhz SD-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices / MacOS X 10.2 / Bluetooth built in? / Airport 2?



ibooks - 800, 900 mhz g3's / 100 mhz SD-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices / MacOS X 10.2 /

/ Bluetooth built in? / Airport 2?



Airport 2 - 50 Mbps, 802.11g, longer distnance



eMacs - now have superdrive option.



November 2002 (Special Event)



New Digital Hub Device (Christmas product)

- camera?

- pda?

- phone?

- something entirely different?



What do you think?
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  • Reply 1 of 29
    rhumgodrhumgod Posts: 1,289member
    August - PMs with new motherboard technology (? processor, it's a crapshoot right now)



    Jan 03 - Next Generation processor (Apple, IBM, Motorola, ???) in PMs



    MWNY 03 - 64-bit all the way.
  • Reply 2 of 29
    jcgjcg Posts: 777member
    If Apple does not give the iMac and eMac a speed boost before the Christmass buying season, then they will loose out on a lot of sales. They both need a speed boost for to have a good chance at the Switch campaign, which is marketing to consumers.
  • Reply 3 of 29
    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    What a useless exercise. Because we don't know what is going on "in the background" we have no clue on what's realistic and what's "outlandish."



    (Is it me, or did I just make a statement that negates the very need for these forums).



    Some expect Salvation through a new chip/motherboard. Most are permanently dour on everything Motorola and therefore expect spittle-in-the-ocean speed bumps. The more keen few are asking the question on what the nature of the next generation will be (as opposed to just MORE -- more pipelines, more MHz, MORE!!!).



    [Addendum] A bigger picture debate should include the possibility that Apple is splitting the PowerMac line into two to include a workstation line. Now is that realistic or outlandish? I personally would like to see and the purchase of the high end apps certainly supports it.



    And Moki playing all coy about x86 development and a new PowerPC and just plain exhausting!! [/rant]



    Screed



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  • Reply 4 of 29
    catcat Posts: 18member
    [quote]Originally posted by JCG:

    <strong>If Apple does not give the iMac and eMac a speed boost before the Christmass buying season, then they will loose out on a lot of sales. They both need a speed boost for to have a good chance at the Switch campaign, which is marketing to consumers.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    This is a more Apple'ish idea. Don't give them a speed boost too close to X-Mas, and just give them a real nice price drop (and blame it on the economy) to clear out the channels to make way for a new year with new products.



    That';s what I'd do.
  • Reply 5 of 29
    [quote]Originally posted by spacemonk:

    <strong>How about some realistic predictions of future hardware to come out of Cupertino from now until mwsf 2003?



    By realistic I mean no outlandish predictions like 6 ghz g5's, martian technology, etc.



    Heres mine:



    August 2002:(not sure of exact date of introduction)



    PowerMacs - 933, 1, 1.2 ghz g4's / 266 or 333 mhz DDR-RAM / Bigger hds, more ram, same prices, MacOS X 10.2



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I still have faith in a much better processor.



    It just feels different this time...
  • Reply 6 of 29
    rickagrickag Posts: 1,626member
    August

    933MHz, 1.0GHz. 133MHz FSB(not ddr), 266MHz DDR sdram



    1.1GHz dual, 166MHz FSB(not ddr), 333MHz DDR sdram



    no HiP7 process used, the stealth upgrades continue.



  • Reply 7 of 29
    sybariticsybaritic Posts: 340member
    Just waiting.
  • Reply 8 of 29
    jcgjcg Posts: 777member
    [quote]Originally posted by Cat:

    <strong>



    This is a more Apple'ish idea. Don't give them a speed boost too close to X-Mas, and just give them a real nice price drop (and blame it on the economy) to clear out the channels to make way for a new year with new products.



    That';s what I'd do.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    1. Apple is getting away from the past on product roll outs.



    2. Small price drops will only help so much, and the drop in price would be the same as their "clearance" prices.



    3. This would get little or no press to go along with thier "Switch" ad campaign.



    Apple has been recieving pretty good press, but they need to be much more agressive if they are going to achieve Steve's goal of doubling Market share. The time to do this would be at or near the release of 10.2. This would help them sell computers in the back to schoold and christmass buying seasons. Also the Christmass season is a little way off, so they would have to keep the current line iin production, then ramp up a new product when people are not spending as much.
  • Reply 9 of 29
    [quote]Originally posted by JCG:

    <strong>



    The time to do this would be at or near the release of 10.2. This would help them sell computers in the back to schoold and christmass buying seasons. Also the Christmass season is a little way off, so they would have to keep the current line iin production, then ramp up a new product when people are not spending as much.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It's way too late to hit this year's back-to-school buying season. most schools do purchases for the following fall in spring/early summer, as most have a fiscal year that ends june/jule. thats why when apple switched their education sales model in the spring a few years back it KILLED purchases. bad time for a shake up. also, most schools wouldn't want to implement brand new OS at the beginning of the year, at least not on a large scale.



    as for predictions, god am i hoping for 1 GHz, 1.2 duals, and 1.4 duals with a better bus to the processor. gimme that and a new case design, and i would be one happy fella!
  • Reply 10 of 29
    arisaris Posts: 65member
    [quote]Originally posted by rickag:

    <strong>August

    933MHz, 1.0GHz. 133MHz FSB(not ddr), 266MHz DDR sdram



    1.1GHz dual, 166MHz FSB(not ddr), 333MHz DDR sdram



    no HiP7 process used, the stealth upgrades continue.



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    you dont have to specify (not ddr). if you say it will have 333mhz ddr we all know the bus speed is half that, 166mhz. hence the meaning of DDR (DOUBLE data rate)



    you just sorta threw me off with that.. didnt know what you were talkin bout for a second.. wanted to clear it up
  • Reply 11 of 29
    bartobarto Posts: 2,246member
    This month: 166MHz MPX, 1.167GHz 7455s. DDR333 RAM, 66MHz 64-bit PCI, 800Mb/s FireWire, ATA-133. New snow tower, smaller than two Cubes stacked on top of each other, with a 2 optical drive 4 hard drive bay at the base, the motherboard overlapping with that on a door with a hinge in the middle (to make first the motherboard then the drives accessable), and the PSU on top. The return of Audio-In! Apple uses the best components available at a loss of income but gain in performance, such as hard drives with 8mb of cache, CL2 ram...



    ~January 2003: Apple licence produces 7455 for the PowerMacs at IBM's new foundry for a year.



    ~January 2004: Apple starts using a IBM 64-bit PowerPC designed for desktops, based on the a Power4 with VMX/Velocity Engine.



    Barto



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  • Reply 12 of 29
    Updated Powermacs for sure.... and after seeing the xServer, you can definately hope to see similar specs as fas as bus speeds go.



    Udated PowerBooks before the Christmas buying season, w/ a Superdrive option, mode HD.



    iBook.....Faster G3s more HD.



    iMac ..... more price drops, 133Mhz bus (PLEASE!!!), hopefully slot loading drives cause the damn screen gets in the way of the tray.



    eMac.... hopefully it just rolls over and dies.



    iPod...back to 2 models...10GB(iPod w/ current look) and 20GB(PowerPod w/ brushed metal look). both come w/ carrying case and remote headphones.



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  • Reply 13 of 29
    anandanand Posts: 285member
    Does anybody remember the PDF that was posted here a while back. It had mention of the 17 inch iMac and such. Was any part of it real?
  • Reply 14 of 29
    Tomorrow... tomorrow... I love ya... tommorrow...
  • Reply 15 of 29
    sc_marktsc_markt Posts: 1,401member
    [quote]Originally posted by Not Unlike Myself:

    <strong>Tomorrow... tomorrow... I love ya... tommorrow...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I'm hoping something new is released tomorrow too but it seems a little too quiet to me. I would have expected more leaks by now.
  • Reply 16 of 29
    What Apple needs is at least 50% faster Macs whatever technologies they used (no longer the G4 (for top Macs), moto G5, IBM POWER4 derived PPC, AMD PPC, RapidIO, Hypertransport, Book E, DDR, DDR II, QDR, MPX, nForce 2, ...). At least a 2.0 GHz chip (even if the MHz myth... better sales argument..."switch")



    What Apple needs is at least 10% cheaper Macs !



    What Apple needs is to release them very soon (tomorrow or the 27th) !!



    Aw
  • Reply 17 of 29
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Didn't want to start a new topic and it could very well be nobody in this thread was saying the 13th COULDN'T be the release date since Jag isn't set to ship till the 24th... But I have been reading comments like that. Anyway I just found on Mikes xlr8yourmac.com site.



    -------------------------------------

    Reader Notes iBook Just Received from Apple Store included 10.2 CDs - (from a reader email today)



    "Hello, I just wanted to email you to let you know I encountered something rather interesting. My brother received his new iBook today from Apple, and upon opening it there it was a packet with a giant Furred X on it. Mac OS X 10.2, the upgrade CDs. The machine itself was running 10.1.4, apparently Apple is throwing in the upgrade CDs with new machines.



    Jaguar consists of 2 upgrade CDs, one is apparently the system, the other

    the new Applications.

    It's fast...super fast.

    Cheers,

    Christopher Joy"

    -------------------------------------



    Hope that settles it... Apple *is* shipping machines with Jag. and people are already getting them.



    Dave
  • Reply 18 of 29
    Powermac

    August: max 1,5G G4 with 166 Mhz bus &gt; performance increase 25-40%.

    November: Dmax 2,0G G4 with 166Mhz &gt; performance increase 25%

    Spring 2003:new MOBO with new "G5" and hypertransport performance increase 25-50%
  • Reply 19 of 29
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    [quote]Originally posted by Not Unlike Myself:

    <strong>Tomorrow... tomorrow... I love ya... tommorrow...</strong><hr></blockquote>It's bad if it happens tomorrow. That means a simple press release and therefore crummy specs.
  • Reply 20 of 29
    Maybe they anounce tomorrow that there is going to be an anouncement. And that anouncement is about the special event. And at that special event apple will release the new multi flavored transparant toiletrings. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    I still hope...
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