Back when the TAM came out it cost $9000. This was back when I was selling computers (Macs). Never sold one at that price. They dropped it to $3999... I think I sold only one at that price. Only when the went to $1999 did I start selling about a dozen of them. Nice looking computers. Insane pricing.
If anything they may try a 30th ann iMac Special Edition, and the chances for that are slim. Don't bet on a whole new model.
i like what david pogue (i think) said, and that was the iMac should've been the 20th anniversary mac.
truer words were never spoken. </strong><hr></blockquote>
While I liked the form of the TAM, didn't it have like a 12" screen? And a slow CPU? I recall it being *completely* form over function.
I will admit to having a soft spot in my heart for the B&O styling though. (Even if The Duller Image has used it everywhere now and completely diluted any 'keen' factor it had.)
[quote]Although officially produced in celebration of the Twentieth Anniversary of Apple, the 20th Anniversary Mac was released close to a year after the fact, in late Spring, 1997. And a truly unique Mac it was. The Motherboard was similar to that of the PowerMac 5500, and it was based on the same 603e processor, running at 250Mhz. The real innovation of the 20th Anniversary Mac was its unique shape, and advanced sound and video features. It came with an integrated TV/FM Radio System, an S-Video Input, and a custom sound system designed by Bose, with integrated stereo speakers, and a separate sub-woofer (it also included a 33.6Kbps GeoPort modem). The Twentieth Anniversary Mac was a limited edition, and sold for nearly $10,000. Its price was cut to as low as $1,999 and it was discontinued in March 1998. <hr></blockquote>
Of course at the same time you could have put your cash into the greatest Mac ever made, the 9600... not to mention that only a few months later the G3 PowerMac made its debut. Do'h!
Dear Lordd, generally you pay a premium for portability of last year's hardware specs,, but here was a BETTER laptop machine available for $3000 than the $9000 one.
Granted, it looked damn cool.
I think that a ThAM would be a nice idea. Wokrable? No. It woulnd't be worth the costs.
Let's worry about the Fiftieth Anniversary Macintsoh instead hmm?
Direct retinal nerve connection through magnetic patches in standard-looing glasses, visual field overlay.
The computing portion is 1 cubic centimeter of rod logic, in the frame of the glasses. Storage is 1 cc of nanodiamond dust,several terabytes.
IIRC, the Spartacus was pitched in some circles as a "$6000 B&O top of the line stereo with an Apple PB 5300 attached"
wasn't it the first Flat Screen display desktop?
pitched at corporate offices where the boss and/or receptionist's desk hardware was required to set a good impression of how cool the company was...
popular in design shops only at the client contact end... real work inside went on 9600's and early G3's
once they broke $3000, many folks looked for one as a bargain B&O system... killer stereo (with visualization function!) for that price
sadly, vertical mount CD's are notoriously evil
damn spiffy industrial design for its time, though
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as for a thirtieth... how about bringing back WOZ. imagine what the first guy to bring colour to home computers could do with OLED and a real OSX quad.
it could be the Steve ^2 (steve squared), and the sequel is often better than the original if writers and producers are faithful to the plot
I wasn't a Mac User (or even a computer user at all, for that matter) when the 20th came out. What did a comparable, "non-commemmorative" computer cost then? Or was the Anniversary Edition more powerful and loaded than any other product available to consumers?
The 20th Anniversary Mac wasn't very powerful for its time. When it was first made (1997), there were two main processors: the 603e and the 604e. The 603e was the low end and the 604e was the high end. Kind of like the G3 and G4 a year ago (consumer machines had the 603e, pro machines had the 604e). Although the 603e was a fine chip, it wasn't as fast. It also consumed much less power, which is why it was used in laptops and the TAM (which at least looks fairly small and thin and uses a laptop screen). But for $10,000, it's frustrating that Apple would include their low-end processor, and a slightly slower version too (the 603e went to at least 300 MHz, maybe more, but I don't remember).
Anyway, I think that if Apple releases any more anniversary Macs, they will be in the form of awesome and functional special edition versions, not novelty toys for the rich. By the way, in 1994, Apple made a Tenth Anniversary Macintosh, which was just a PowerBook 170 colored white.
EDIT: On second thought, Apple has made two anniversary Macs. One was a novelty toy with a great sound system, and the other was a quick repainting of a PowerBook 170. So they may surprise us in 2004 with a really cool, useful 20th anniversary computer, or an afterthought like the 10th anniversary 170, or something silly like the TAM. Who knows what they'll do?
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Another edit: Changed date above to 2004 from 1994. I don't think Apple will surprise us in 1994 with a 20th anniversary computer
Ok... Just to clear it up, the TAM was NOT a repackaged PowerBook 5300 or 3400... It was based on the Alchemy architecture (think 54xx/55xx/64xx/65xx). That's why it can be upgraded w/ the same L2-based G3 card.
It shipped w/ a 250MHz 603e and 256k L2. Note that the fastest 603e based Mac was the 6500/300.
So either LEM or AF is wrong... (Leaning towards AF, I guess, since the plastics on around the top of the LCD don't match those of the 140, but do match the 170)....
To stay OT, I, for one, would like to see a 30th anniversary mac. I see no problem w/ making a special model - it's a collector's item, afterall. Where's the issue here? The only difficulty would be finding the right balance between number of machines produced and retail price.
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Anyway, I think that if Apple releases any more anniversary Macs, they will be in the form of awesome and functional special edition versions, not novelty toys for the rich. By the way, in 1994, Apple made a Tenth Anniversary Macintosh, which was just a PowerBook 170 colored white.
EDIT: On second thought, Apple has made two anniversary Macs. One was a novelty toy with a great sound system, and the other was a quick repainting of a PowerBook 170. So they may surprise us in 1994 with a really cool, useful 20th anniversary computer, or an afterthought like the 10th anniversary 170, or something silly like the TAM. Who knows what they'll do?
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let apple spend it's energy making an entire line of good product, not novelty crap.
If anything they may try a 30th ann iMac Special Edition, and the chances for that are slim. Don't bet on a whole new model.
was it any surprise?
i like what david pogue (i think) said, and that was the iMac should've been the 20th anniversary mac.
truer words were never spoken.
<strong>ah yes, the gil amelio computer.
was it any surprise?
i like what david pogue (i think) said, and that was the iMac should've been the 20th anniversary mac.
truer words were never spoken.
While I liked the form of the TAM, didn't it have like a 12" screen? And a slow CPU? I recall it being *completely* form over function.
I will admit to having a soft spot in my heart for the B&O styling though.
[quote]Although officially produced in celebration of the Twentieth Anniversary of Apple, the 20th Anniversary Mac was released close to a year after the fact, in late Spring, 1997. And a truly unique Mac it was. The Motherboard was similar to that of the PowerMac 5500, and it was based on the same 603e processor, running at 250Mhz. The real innovation of the 20th Anniversary Mac was its unique shape, and advanced sound and video features. It came with an integrated TV/FM Radio System, an S-Video Input, and a custom sound system designed by Bose, with integrated stereo speakers, and a separate sub-woofer (it also included a 33.6Kbps GeoPort modem). The Twentieth Anniversary Mac was a limited edition, and sold for nearly $10,000. Its price was cut to as low as $1,999 and it was discontinued in March 1998. <hr></blockquote>
Of course at the same time you could have put your cash into the greatest Mac ever made, the 9600... not to mention that only a few months later the G3 PowerMac made its debut. Do'h!
The Powerbook G3 was FASTER than it.
Dear Lordd, generally you pay a premium for portability of last year's hardware specs,, but here was a BETTER laptop machine available for $3000 than the $9000 one.
Granted, it looked damn cool.
I think that a ThAM
Let's worry about the Fiftieth Anniversary Macintsoh instead hmm?
Direct retinal nerve connection through magnetic patches in standard-looing glasses, visual field overlay.
The computing portion is 1 cubic centimeter of rod logic, in the frame of the glasses. Storage is 1 cc of nanodiamond dust,several terabytes.
Pwoer is a problem.
Forget all this, it'll be implanted.
<strong>no. the 20th anniversary mac was a disaster. overpriced novelty computers don't sell. remember the cube?
let apple spend it's energy making an entire line of good product, not novelty crap.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I dunno, I bought a 20th anniversary mac when the price had plummeted to $1999 -- seemed like a decent deal at the time to me
wasn't it the first Flat Screen display desktop?
pitched at corporate offices where the boss and/or receptionist's desk hardware was required to set a good impression of how cool the company was...
popular in design shops only at the client contact end... real work inside went on 9600's and early G3's
once they broke $3000, many folks looked for one as a bargain B&O system... killer stereo (with visualization function!) for that price
sadly, vertical mount CD's are notoriously evil
damn spiffy industrial design for its time, though
-
as for a thirtieth... how about bringing back WOZ. imagine what the first guy to bring colour to home computers could do with OLED and a real OSX quad.
it could be the Steve ^2 (steve squared), and the sequel is often better than the original if writers and producers are faithful to the plot
<strong>heres ur 30th anivesary mac
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
Alex.
Anyway, I think that if Apple releases any more anniversary Macs, they will be in the form of awesome and functional special edition versions, not novelty toys for the rich. By the way, in 1994, Apple made a Tenth Anniversary Macintosh, which was just a PowerBook 170 colored white.
EDIT: On second thought, Apple has made two anniversary Macs. One was a novelty toy with a great sound system, and the other was a quick repainting of a PowerBook 170. So they may surprise us in 2004 with a really cool, useful 20th anniversary computer, or an afterthought like the 10th anniversary 170, or something silly like the TAM. Who knows what they'll do?
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Another edit: Changed date above to 2004 from 1994. I don't think Apple will surprise us in 1994 with a 20th anniversary computer
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It shipped w/ a 250MHz 603e and 256k L2. Note that the fastest 603e based Mac was the 6500/300.
As for that white 170, AppleFritter reports that it isn't a 170 at all, but rather a prototype 140. <a href="http://www.applefritter.com/prototypes/pb140/index.html"; target="_blank">http://www.applefritter.com/prototypes/pb140/index.html</A>;
So either LEM or AF is wrong... (Leaning towards AF, I guess, since the plastics on around the top of the LCD don't match those of the 140, but do match the 170)....
To stay OT, I, for one, would like to see a 30th anniversary mac. I see no problem w/ making a special model - it's a collector's item, afterall. Where's the issue here? The only difficulty would be finding the right balance between number of machines produced and retail price.
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Anyway, I think that if Apple releases any more anniversary Macs, they will be in the form of awesome and functional special edition versions, not novelty toys for the rich. By the way, in 1994, Apple made a Tenth Anniversary Macintosh, which was just a PowerBook 170 colored white.
EDIT: On second thought, Apple has made two anniversary Macs. One was a novelty toy with a great sound system, and the other was a quick repainting of a PowerBook 170. So they may surprise us in 1994 with a really cool, useful 20th anniversary computer, or an afterthought like the 10th anniversary 170, or something silly like the TAM. Who knows what they'll do?
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