Apple to re-structure G5 prices?
It seems that few people are buying either the 1.6 or 1.8ghz G5, the majority of sales are going straight for the 2 X 2ghz machine.
Apple cannot sit by and allow 2/3rds of it line to stagnate there is gong to be a lost opertunity in the current structure. What will Apple do?
a. Increase the spces of the 1.6 and 1.8 - I don't think so the 1.8 is quite well spec'd.
b. Lower the prices of each of these, a possibility but could compromise iMac sales further.
c. Raise the price of the 2 x 2ghz - again a possibility, we have seen Apple raise the price of the iMac in the face of very strong demand.
I would think that C is a strong possibility, but mabe the re-alignment will take place at the first speed bump.
Apple cannot sit by and allow 2/3rds of it line to stagnate there is gong to be a lost opertunity in the current structure. What will Apple do?
a. Increase the spces of the 1.6 and 1.8 - I don't think so the 1.8 is quite well spec'd.
b. Lower the prices of each of these, a possibility but could compromise iMac sales further.
c. Raise the price of the 2 x 2ghz - again a possibility, we have seen Apple raise the price of the iMac in the face of very strong demand.
I would think that C is a strong possibility, but mabe the re-alignment will take place at the first speed bump.
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If 970s are so much cheaper than the 1.4 gig G4s...this is a killer strategy. You have zillions of pent up Quark 6 and POWERMac demand in print, in server, in games, in consumer, in pro, in audio, in workstation...and you're getting them to buy you're premium machine!
Apple will print money!
An unoptimised G5 is at least circa a Pentium 4 3 gigger. Dual 2 gigger creams it and Xeons for waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper. Come the end of the year, Photoshop, Panther and the compilers will be eeking out more performance before we EVEN GET TO THE REV B machines!
It's impressive now and things are far from perfect in terms of a G5 cpu starting its life on the Mac platform. ie OS not finished for you...Compilers and apps unoptimised, developers needing time to take advantage of the architecture and extra power of the G5.
Some may argue to indeed wait for a dual 2.5 gig 970 by Feb 04 at the latest?
Lemon Bon Bon
I don't know why Apple didn't increase the dual 2.0 GHz model by $200-300 dollars and lower the low-end and mid machines?
Oh well, maybe in 6 months at the first G5 revision.
Originally posted by Dave K.
Makes you wonder if Apple increased the price of the G5 machines at the last minute due to the well received "unofficial leak specifications".
I don't know why Apple didn't increase the dual 2.0 GHz model by $200-300 dollars and lower the low-end and mid machines?
Oh well, maybe in 6 months at the first G5 revision.
That's ridiculous. Those prices have probably been set for a while now. And, they knew this would be well received. I mean, suddenly Macs are faster than WinBlows machines, and Apple knows it. They know that we want it. They know that G4 PM sales have been more than just a little anemic over the past two years. They know there is pent up demand.
It's all really obvious that we will receive these machines well. They didn't need to see the flurry of web activity after Thursday night.
hey I don't blame them, they are going to make a killing...
Originally posted by Addison
Apple cannot sit by and allow 2/3rds of it line to stagnate there is gong to be a lost opertunity in the current structure.
The whole point of pricing is to get the customer to drop the biggest wad for product as possible .. Apple has executed flawlessly. Even if all they sell are Duals, their laughing, because that's where they make the most money. It's not like they have already made 50 000 1.6, 40 000 1.8, and 30 000 high end machines, the ones that don't sell will be cut back in production.
Just for fun I evened out all 3 models with same RAM, HD size and video card.
So we have:
$1,436.87 per GHz for the 1.6
$1,360.55 per GHz for the 1.8
$749.75 per GHz for the 2x2
Hmmmmmmmmm, ya think Apple is interested in selling anything but the Dual 2 GHz? I'm thinking the 1.6 and 1.8 G5s chips must be very expensive.
that is unless they would update teh powebook sometime soon, then i'd be tempted to get that cuz after using my friends 12", well im very impressed
I would love to see the 1.6 selling for $1499 without a superdrive, that would be awesome.
On the other hand, the 1.8 seems to fall short in the value department. Is the 200 MHz really worth $500? Once again, I may just be missing something obvious.
All that stuff would probably equal more than $500
Originally posted by Wrong Robust
Well, with the 1.8 model you also get Pc 2700 ram, and upto 8 gigs(the 1.6 has PC2100 and upto 4 gigs) you also get the 100 mhz. faster FSB, 512 RAM, 160 GB HD, and PCI-X
All that stuff would probably equal more than $500
It's PC3200 and PC2700...
Indeed, Apple does want you to buy the high-end models. PC makers typically go with the flow...as in Intel and AMD put a high premium on the top of the line CPUs, which is represented in the pricing structure at Dell, HP, Sony, etc.
I guess they figure the high-end is just out of reach for some, but the lower-end models are within reason...
I guess some people feel that the 1.6 is a crippled G5-- only 4 memory slots and no PCI-X slots. No one will really know until the G5s are actually out. Who knows, perhaps the "new" old dual G4 1.25 will be a better and equally as fast deal.
Single Processor 1.8GHZ (lowend)
Dual Processor 1.6 GHZ (mid)
Dual Processsor 2.0 GHZ (high)
That way, all machines are better specced with the parts available now, and there is enough of a difference in performance to justifiy each machine.
Also consider the fact that Apple must know that the Dual 2GHZ as is current is the best deal, so there must be very good yields of the high end PPC970. Looks like a decent speed bump in the next revision.
Hopefully something like
Single Pro 2.2
Dual 2.0
Dual 2.5
If the G5 Hype is to be believed, then the low end G5 might well be comparable to the high end G4.
The 'low end' G5 trounces the dual Xeon on Photoshop benches. It is not to be underestimated. It will smoke a 1.42 G4 on Lightwave benches. What you getting with a dual 1.42? 2 gig G4 on average? A 1.6 has four times the bandwidth and an fpu unit that will fun the dual G4 ragged and altivec on superior bandwidth. It's a blood bath.
Aquatic. I feel Apple have done a fair job of re-structuring the G4 towers price wise. They'll stay, I suspect, until the current speed grades are dropped in there when the 0.09 G5 enters town and the higher speed grades where the G5 towers currently are. So we may have a low cost and high cost G5 Tower line. That's a good thing in my view. Something the G4 didn't really allow Apple the flexibility to do.
Lemon Bon Bon
Originally posted by Lemon Bon Bon
The 'low end' G5 trounces the dual Xeon on Photoshop benches.
Uhm... Where?
Originally posted by T'hain Esh Kelch
Uhm... Where?
apple.com