Price comparision for Minimum Business machine.
Apple Spec for low end Workstation: - $1770
? 1.6GHz PowerPC G5
? 256MB DDR333 SDRAM (PC2700) - 2x128
? 80GB Serial ATA - 7200 rpm
? NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
? Combo Drive (CD-RW/DVD-ROM)
? Apple Keyboard & Apple Mouse - U.S. English
? Mac OS X - U.S. English
* Took Modem out and downgraded to Combo drive.
Dell Precision 340 - $1641
? Pentium 4 Processor, 2.00GHz, 512K Full Speed Cache
? 256MB PC800 ECC RDRAM - 2x128
? 80GB ATA-100 IDE, 1 inch (7200 rpm)
? NVIDIA Quadro2 EX?, 32MB, VGA
? 48X CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
? Windows® XP Professional with Media
Items added to match Apple's Spec.
? Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Digital Sound Card
? Enhanced Performance, USB (8 Hot Keys)
? Logitech®, USB, Optical (2-button, w/scroll)
? Intel PRO/1000 XT, Gigabit PCI NIC
? 1394 Controller (this is questionable as it is not stated if the Mobo has it builit in or not)
Items taken out to match Apple's Spec.
? 3Yr Same Day 4Hr Response Parts + Onsite Labor
? No monitor
? PS/2 Keyboard and mouse, replaced with lowest priced USB
? Modem
Well Apple's entry level is more expensive. They need to work on the better On-site service for big clients. Which they cannot provide.
But if you look at the specs. You get:
1. Faster Drive - Serial ATA vs only ATA 100
2. Bigger Memory on the Graphic Card - 64 MB vs 32MB
3. Built in Sound - Digital & Analog vs Analog with Digital Card.
4. Faster Memory - PC2700 vs PC800
with Apple's Entry Workstation.
I think if I tried to match the price of these things on Dell, I think the price might be little bit more even.
Yes, I know Digital Sound is not a necessary but if its on the Mac then it goes on the machine. And I would buy the monitor from Dell as they are cheaper.
? 1.6GHz PowerPC G5
? 256MB DDR333 SDRAM (PC2700) - 2x128
? 80GB Serial ATA - 7200 rpm
? NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
? Combo Drive (CD-RW/DVD-ROM)
? Apple Keyboard & Apple Mouse - U.S. English
? Mac OS X - U.S. English
* Took Modem out and downgraded to Combo drive.
Dell Precision 340 - $1641
? Pentium 4 Processor, 2.00GHz, 512K Full Speed Cache
? 256MB PC800 ECC RDRAM - 2x128
? 80GB ATA-100 IDE, 1 inch (7200 rpm)
? NVIDIA Quadro2 EX?, 32MB, VGA
? 48X CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive
? Windows® XP Professional with Media
Items added to match Apple's Spec.
? Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Digital Sound Card
? Enhanced Performance, USB (8 Hot Keys)
? Logitech®, USB, Optical (2-button, w/scroll)
? Intel PRO/1000 XT, Gigabit PCI NIC
? 1394 Controller (this is questionable as it is not stated if the Mobo has it builit in or not)
Items taken out to match Apple's Spec.
? 3Yr Same Day 4Hr Response Parts + Onsite Labor
? No monitor
? PS/2 Keyboard and mouse, replaced with lowest priced USB
? Modem
Well Apple's entry level is more expensive. They need to work on the better On-site service for big clients. Which they cannot provide.
But if you look at the specs. You get:
1. Faster Drive - Serial ATA vs only ATA 100
2. Bigger Memory on the Graphic Card - 64 MB vs 32MB
3. Built in Sound - Digital & Analog vs Analog with Digital Card.
4. Faster Memory - PC2700 vs PC800
with Apple's Entry Workstation.
I think if I tried to match the price of these things on Dell, I think the price might be little bit more even.
Yes, I know Digital Sound is not a necessary but if its on the Mac then it goes on the machine. And I would buy the monitor from Dell as they are cheaper.
Comments
(Yet Another Dell Price Comparison Post)
If they come within 10-15% it is a huge win... price is not the sole defining factor...
FireWire 800 built-in: $100
Not having to use Windows XP and sort out DLL conflicts: priceless
I'd like to see someone 'build' the sweet spot Dell and see how Apple compares to that machine.
Most of the price comparison threads I see are Mac centric. That is, someone picks a 'sweet spot' in the Mac lineup and tries to configure a Dell to be similar.
I'd like to see someone 'build' the sweet spot Dell and see how Apple compares to that machine
I would if I were to justify my purchase of a Dell machines, but since I don't and I do have to do this for a Mac, it was done. Also I don't think I did any "sweet spot" juggling for the G5, I took out two things that I didn't need in our office. Modem and Super Drive. And these are the specs that I want to order from Apple.
Items such as Memory and Monitor, I can get a better price from other vendors.
Please lock this thread!!!!!
Please don't read the thread then, if the Administrator feel that this is in a wrong forum or inappropriate, they will deal with it. And your use of 5 exclamation points really do make a big difference.
Thank you for reading anyway.
If they come within 10-15% it is a huge win... price is not the sole defining factor...
Not really worried about the price, I think its a great price for what you get. I don't think this will be opposed as much as previous Mac by the CTO and IT manager. Specifically when you figure the performance advantage it will have.
Future Hardware?
It's not out yet, so I put it here.
Perhaps, you should let us in on why you are posting this. What exactly is it you want? Are you looking for feedback? What?
Originally posted by I.P.Freely
I would if I were to justify my purchase of a Dell machines, but since I don't and I do have to do this for a Mac, it was done. Also I don't think I did any "sweet spot" juggling for the G5, I took out two things that I didn't need in our office. Modem and Super Drive. And these are the specs that I want to order from Apple.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be critical of you. I was speaking in general about the price wars. I was just thinking that I wish Apple was clearly level with decent PC pricing.
I'm with you, that is, I don't need to price PCs. Mac prices are all that matter.
Originally posted by iPeon
We are all aware of the specs and price comparisons.
Perhaps, you should let us in on why you are posting this. What exactly is it you want? Are you looking for feedback? What?
Why am I posting this? Why are you responding to a mysterious posting?
I don't know maybe people might wanted to know. I did this at work on Thursday. Also I'm not going to make assumption that everybody know everything already. Maybe this helps one person, that's more then what you did.
Also lot of people don't realize that Dell has a great support system, which I feel Apple needs to emulate to compete in corporate market.
Their 4 HR response time agreement is only $199, but it cost $249 for extended Apple Care.
But what I wasn't looking for was your comment.
If you got nothing to say, how about not saying anything.
either a thread or some online site, or something, that gives the 3 g5 models against similarly configured PCs(gateway, dell, alienware..etc)
I did a little myself, and to get a system more or less on par with the dual 2.0, I could not find any that were cheaper than apple, except for one dell that I configured, that was a little cheaper but lacked a few features.
Originally posted by iPeon
Easy there. I was just asking. And now have the answer. Thanks for stopping by. Good night.
Well you're welcome for playing the game. Enjoy your parting gift and have a nice night
Originally posted by JLL
Minimum business machine? For what kind of use? We use this.
Its a publishing company.
Originally posted by michaelb
Snazzy brushed aluminum case: $150
FireWire 800 built-in: $100
Not having to use Windows XP and sort out DLL conflicts: priceless
Originally posted by michaelb
Snazzy brushed aluminum case: $150
FireWire 800 built-in: $100
Not having to use Windows XP and sort out DLL conflicts: priceless
Originally posted by Alpha Mac
I thought those Damn Lame Libraries were part of the Windows Experience
Originally posted by I.P.Freely
Its a publishing company.
Your title to the thread is misleading then. I dont even think that this computer would be a minimum in the publishing industry anymore. For production uses the 17" iMac is a competant computer, though I personally wouldnt want to use a 17" monitor for page layout. Most people looking at the thread title would be thinking in the price range of the iMac or e-Mac, where I dont think Apple is competing nearly as well as they now are with the PowerMac.