DigiVidPod ----discuss

drewpropsdrewprops
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
this thread inspired by the iPod hints thread, but pushing some questions out there that I haven't read before....forgive if this has been hit in one of the other 1.62million iPod threads...



Consider a DigiVidPod as a direct and immediate record-to source for your digital camcorder. Does the Archos device do this now? Will it soon?



Capture directly to the DigiVidPod's hard drive via a firewire cable. Clip it directly to your camera. It's a shortcut step between a totally HD engineered camera and today's current fare.



How much storage capacity is on a DV tape....and how large a hard drive would a DigiVidPod be required to have to start to become interesting?



This type of device would justify the use of a color screen, as there's really no reason that the iPod NEEDS such a battery-drainer.



A DigiVidPod could be a bit bigger than the iPod so that it could have a larger battery.



If it had a card slot on the side for downloading stills from your digital camera, what format card would Apple elect to use? What digitial storage card SHOULD they use?



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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 16
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    Seems to me that this just adds an unneeded device in an already simple process; Shoot video -> download to computer. You suggest; Shoot video -> to iPod like thing -> download to computer?



    Why is this better?
  • Reply 2 of 16
    spiffsterspiffster Posts: 327member
    Couldn't you do the same thing with a current iPod? Wouldn't apple only need to release some software for the iPod to interact with a dv camera. That would be the way to go, but I don't think its worth doing anyway.
  • Reply 3 of 16
    cowerdcowerd Posts: 579member
    [quote] Seems to me that this just adds an unneeded device in an already simple process; Shoot video -> download to computer. You suggest; Shoot video -> to iPod like thing -> download to computer?



    Why is this better?<hr></blockquote>

    Because carrying an iPod around is easier than strapping a desktop+monitor to your back just to download photos from a camera or DV cam. An everyone doesn't own a laptop.
  • Reply 4 of 16
    jbljbl Posts: 555member
    [quote]Originally posted by cowerd:

    <strong>

    Because carrying an iPod around is easier than strapping a desktop+monitor to your back just to download photos from a camera or DV cam. An everyone doesn't own a laptop.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I think I like cowerds idea better than the original. While I don't see much point in downloading video to an iPod over miniDV tape, the idea of carrying around your iPhoto library and video clips of your grand kids has a certain appeal. In addition to your record collection you can carry your photo album with you.
  • Reply 5 of 16
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    [quote]Originally posted by cowerd:

    <strong>

    Because carrying an iPod around is easier than strapping a desktop+monitor to your back just to download photos from a camera or DV cam. An everyone doesn't own a laptop.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Why do you need to download them right then and there? You're not going to edit and print them using iPhoto from your iPod? So what's the point? More storage? That problem is solved and it doesn't take an iPod like device to do it.
  • Reply 6 of 16
    tkntkn Posts: 224member
    I think I've posted this before here, but look at this device:



    <a href="http://www.dynamism.com/av1/index.shtml"; target="_blank">Sharp AV-1</a>



    Now add a 20gb drive to the back and you have the perfect portable video viewer/camera drive/music device.
  • Reply 7 of 16
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott:

    <strong>



    Why do you need to download them right then and there? You're not going to edit and print them using iPhoto from your iPod? So what's the point? More storage? That problem is solved and it doesn't take an iPod like device to do it.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    For me, it's having more storage for my camera when I'm too far from my PB. I have 256 MB of Smart cards but I'd much rather be able to hook to my iPod and downlaod the pictures. Gets rid of some other devices in the transfer of my pictures (no stupid smart card reader to carry around with me-my PB pack is already over-flowing with accessories). Seems like a natural transition to me.
  • Reply 8 of 16
    tom morninitom mornini Posts: 38member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott:

    <strong>Seems to me that this just adds an unneeded device in an already simple process; Shoot video -&gt; download to computer. You suggest; Shoot video -&gt; to iPod like thing -&gt; download to computer?



    Why is this better?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Because in the current scheme of things, download to computer is a 1:1 process with respect to time of video.



    I'd love to shoot an hour of video, and have it available on the Macintosh immediately after shooting it, already in a usable format the second I connect the iPod.
  • Reply 9 of 16
    drewpropsdrewprops Posts: 2,321member
    The idea of high-storage, portability and rapid-transfer are the reasons that this type of device might prove successful. People who don't see the need wouldn't be the target audience.
  • Reply 10 of 16
    spiffsterspiffster Posts: 327member
    I mentioned this before but i think it got ignored.



    Why not just add this functionality to the current iPod? Whats the point of adding a whole new device when it could 'easily' be adapted to a current package? I could see this as another selling point to the iPod.



    [quote]This type of device would justify the use of a color screen, as there's really no reason that the iPod NEEDS such a battery-drainer.<hr></blockquote>



    Why whould you need a color screen? Wouldn't you use the camera to view the video? <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
  • Reply 11 of 16
    cakecake Posts: 1,010member
    <a href="http://www.archos.com/lang=en/products/prw_500375.html?country=us"; target="_blank">The Archos</a> almost get's it right except it doesn't have FireWire and lacks the Apple touch regarding design (and probably function - I've never actually played around with one).
  • Reply 12 of 16
    vvmpvvmp Posts: 63member
    Why not a simple Digital Video Camera using MPEG4 and storing to a 20gig HD? I think Panasonic has such a device but don't use Firewire or an HD. It's TINY (size of a cretit card)! So the device is not for viewing video but for digital recording and importing directly into imovie4 for editing.
  • Reply 13 of 16
    macgregormacgregor Posts: 1,434member
    I think the idea is for the portable storage and VIEWING of digital jpegs, mp4's, etc. In this respect, the Sharp product is closer to the mark of an iVid device. The Archos just doesn't look like a good viewing experience. The screen needs to be at least 3" to make it practical to, for example, show off your photo's or watch video for anything longer than 2 minutes.



    And I don't particularly want it to be a camera; take photos; have a lens. Just store and access video the way the iPod stores and accesses music and sounds. Simple. The interface with the camera or computer comes through the FW and it would have the ability to be a portable HD like the iPod, but that isn't it's primary purpose.



    BTW, anyone else think the Sharp AV1 looks like a palm version of first El Capitan G3 cases?



    [ 01-05-2003: Message edited by: MacGregor ]</p>
  • Reply 14 of 16
    tomktomk Posts: 13member
    Why not adding the possibility of an analog audio/video in port which converts the stream into mpeg4? That's the new video/audio recording and presenting (video out) device to show movies, pictures and play sounds.
  • Reply 15 of 16
    koffedrnkrkoffedrnkr Posts: 170member
    i'm thinking about portable multimedia station:



    1) it holds addresses & contacts...but it's not a newton.

    2) it uses an inkwell pen interface to keep buttons to a minimum

    3) it plays MP3's, but is not an ipod

    4) it has a larger screen, but is not a traditional tablet size

    5) it encodes MPEG4 with a custom DSP...like a portable TIVO



    with this device, you can record tv programs, dump imovies, etc. and take them with you. you can also listen to your tunes and access your contact info on a device about the size of a newton.
  • Reply 16 of 16
    engpjpengpjp Posts: 124member
    [quote]Originally posted by koffedrnkr:

    <strong>i'm thinking about portable multimedia station:



    1) it holds addresses & contacts...but it's not a newton.

    2) it uses an inkwell pen interface to keep buttons to a minimum

    3) it plays MP3's, but is not an ipod

    4) it has a larger screen, but is not a traditional tablet size

    5) it encodes MPEG4 with a custom DSP...like a portable TIVO



    with this device, you can record tv programs, dump imovies, etc. and take them with you. you can also listen to your tunes and access your contact info on a device about the size of a newton.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Okay - now try and compute the energy consumption of such a device....



    engpjp



    [ 01-06-2003: Message edited by: engpjp ]</p>
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