Install Jaguar. Get your up-to-date CDs to upgrade to Panther for $20. Modify up-to-date CDs so they can do a full install. Do a clean or archive install of Panther. Or just do an upgrade install from Jaguar to Panther if you don't feel like modifying your discs.
But whatever you do, don't let an awesome machine like that just sit there, unused, for two weeks!
Do I install Jaguar from the enclosed discs or just wait 14 days for PANTHER? Can't decide...
The fun of having a mac is doing a clean install of a better OS periodically. But you don't have to upgrade to Panther if you don't think you need the additional 30% performance boost.
Just install only your neccessary apps on Jag for now and "mess around" for two weeks. Then get serious and install Panther.
I installed most my apps so I can play/work but once Panther gets here, I'm doing it all over again.
Do I install Jaguar from the enclosed discs or just wait 14 days for PANTHER? Can't decide...
Doesn't your dual already have Jaguar installed right out of the box? Mine did. AFAIK unless something's badly wrong any Apple computer ships with the latest, or at least close to the latest, OS already installed. Have you just been staring at the G5 for a while, afraid to plug it in?
Doesn't your dual already have Jaguar installed right out of the box? Mine did. AFAIK unless something's badly wrong any Apple computer ships with the latest, or at least close to the latest, OS already installed. Have you just been staring at the G5 for a while, afraid to plug it in?
I too have a shiny new G5 (granted a 1.8, not dualie) and have installed FCP4, the primary app. that I'll be working with. I just pre-ordered Panther for $20.
Is it suggested that, after I install Panther, I reinstall FCP4 (and MS Office or any other added app for that matter)?
I think it's because there's so many different languages in Europe and Asia that it's best if they let the consumer configure it. But it takes about 40 mins usually (I once spent 4hrs installing software on a new Powermac 8200/120).
As a Canadian AI-er has pointed out, some non-US buyers also get pre-installation too. However, it was indeed news to me that pre-installation of the OS isn't done everywhere.
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[Other countries don't use dollars either. It's mad ain't it? Some countries even abhor the American Dream!]
This much wasn't news to me. You Brits eat weird things too.
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I think it's because there's so many different languages in Europe and Asia that it's best if they let the consumer configure it.
Since language support for many countries is installed by default, and since the first-time start-up procedure prompts you for a language choice, keyboard config, etc., I can't see this as the reason not to pre-install the OS. I'd be more inclined to think there must be some weird legal/tax/license issues.
If you do a clean install, yes, you have to reinstall FCP4 and any other app that isn't on the OS CD.
If you don't, and do the upgrade install, then no, you don't have to reinstall FCP4
That's not true at all. We're talking about the Mac here, not Windows. Windows applications spread DLLs all over the place, which means you may as well format your drive and start over when Windows dies. On OS X, most third party applications install with a drag and drop of one application package. Such applications shouldn't require reinstalls, because they haven't placed anything important deep inside the OS. (OS X is even better than the classic Mac OS in this regard since it enforces permissions based rules that confine most application support files to outside of the core system.) The only applications a person really needs to be concerned about are those installed by the Apple Installer. And basically Apple's the only developer that uses the Installer.
So what's the concensus? Is FCP4 an Apple product that uses an Apple installer?
Also, what's the difference b/t a clean install and an upgrade? Is one preferred over the other? I'm running Jaguar on my G5 (obviously), so is my only option to upgrade rather than clean install?
"Clean Install" refers to totally wiping your harddrive (erasing it), and installing the OS on the freshly erased HD.
Under OS 9 a clean install renamed the System Folder to something like Previous System Folder and then reinstalled the OS. So many of us still think that way when we read "clean install".
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But whatever you do, don't let an awesome machine like that just sit there, unused, for two weeks!
Originally posted by Peerpee
Do I install Jaguar from the enclosed discs or just wait 14 days for PANTHER? Can't decide...
The fun of having a mac is doing a clean install of a better OS periodically. But you don't have to upgrade to Panther if you don't think you need the additional 30% performance boost.
Just install only your neccessary apps on Jag for now and "mess around" for two weeks. Then get serious and install Panther.
I installed most my apps so I can play/work but once Panther gets here, I'm doing it all over again.
You are quite insane.
Originally posted by Peerpee
Do I install Jaguar from the enclosed discs or just wait 14 days for PANTHER? Can't decide...
Doesn't your dual already have Jaguar installed right out of the box? Mine did. AFAIK unless something's badly wrong any Apple computer ships with the latest, or at least close to the latest, OS already installed. Have you just been staring at the G5 for a while, afraid to plug it in?
Originally posted by shetline
Doesn't your dual already have Jaguar installed right out of the box? Mine did. AFAIK unless something's badly wrong any Apple computer ships with the latest, or at least close to the latest, OS already installed. Have you just been staring at the G5 for a while, afraid to plug it in?
this is what I don't understand either
I too have a shiny new G5 (granted a 1.8, not dualie) and have installed FCP4, the primary app. that I'll be working with. I just pre-ordered Panther for $20.
Is it suggested that, after I install Panther, I reinstall FCP4 (and MS Office or any other added app for that matter)?
If so, why?
Thanks.
[Other countries don't use dollars either. It's mad ain't it? Some countries even abhor the American Dream!]
HA-HA!
Originally posted by Peerpee
Macs outside of the USA don't come preinstalled.
!!what!! thats crazy!! I had no idea. Whats the reason? to save money on weird taxes or some weird laws.
Originally posted by Peerpee
Macs outside of the USA don't come preinstalled.
As a Canadian AI-er has pointed out, some non-US buyers also get pre-installation too. However, it was indeed news to me that pre-installation of the OS isn't done everywhere.
[Other countries don't use dollars either. It's mad ain't it? Some countries even abhor the American Dream!]
This much wasn't news to me. You Brits eat weird things too.
I think it's because there's so many different languages in Europe and Asia that it's best if they let the consumer configure it.
Since language support for many countries is installed by default, and since the first-time start-up procedure prompts you for a language choice, keyboard config, etc., I can't see this as the reason not to pre-install the OS. I'd be more inclined to think there must be some weird legal/tax/license issues.
should I reinstall FCP4 after I install Panther, and if so, why? Thanks again.
NeilyB
If you do a clean install, yes, you have to reinstall FCP4 and any other app that isn't on the OS CD.
If you don't, and do the upgrade install, then no, you don't have to reinstall FCP4
Originally posted by OSXaddict
It depends on if you do a clean install or not.
If you do a clean install, yes, you have to reinstall FCP4 and any other app that isn't on the OS CD.
If you don't, and do the upgrade install, then no, you don't have to reinstall FCP4
That's not true at all. We're talking about the Mac here, not Windows. Windows applications spread DLLs all over the place, which means you may as well format your drive and start over when Windows dies. On OS X, most third party applications install with a drag and drop of one application package. Such applications shouldn't require reinstalls, because they haven't placed anything important deep inside the OS. (OS X is even better than the classic Mac OS in this regard since it enforces permissions based rules that confine most application support files to outside of the core system.) The only applications a person really needs to be concerned about are those installed by the Apple Installer. And basically Apple's the only developer that uses the Installer.
Also, what's the difference b/t a clean install and an upgrade? Is one preferred over the other? I'm running Jaguar on my G5 (obviously), so is my only option to upgrade rather than clean install?
Thanks again, gang!
Originally posted by Peerpee
Macs outside of the USA don't come preinstalled.
Macs in New Zealand, Australia and the UK come with the OS pre-installed.
Dredd
Originally posted by Placebo
"Clean Install" refers to totally wiping your harddrive (erasing it), and installing the OS on the freshly erased HD.
Under OS 9 a clean install renamed the System Folder to something like Previous System Folder and then reinstalled the OS. So many of us still think that way when we read "clean install".