Apple stole exposé off Microsoft!
I cannot believe Apple would stoop to such a level!
http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/Art...367/40367.html
Quote:
Microsoft wasn't sure whether it would just demo Aero or supply it to PDC attendees," one source told me recently. Microsoft made the decision to demonstrate Aero only because of the long delay between PDC 2003 and Longhorn's final release, which is set for late 2005. If the company released all its UI work now, its OS competitors--such as Apple Computer and various companies and organizations in the Linux camp, all of which have fewer customers and faster release cycles than Microsoft--would be able to clone the Longhorn work before the OS's release. This problem has dogged Microsoft in the past, the most recent example being Apple's Expose technology, which will ship in Mac OS X 10.3 late this year. Microsoft has been demonstrating Expose-like technology for years now, but the technology won't show up in Windows until the Longhorn release at the earliest.
Microsoft wasn't sure whether it would just demo Aero or supply it to PDC attendees," one source told me recently. Microsoft made the decision to demonstrate Aero only because of the long delay between PDC 2003 and Longhorn's final release, which is set for late 2005. If the company released all its UI work now, its OS competitors--such as Apple Computer and various companies and organizations in the Linux camp, all of which have fewer customers and faster release cycles than Microsoft--would be able to clone the Longhorn work before the OS's release. This problem has dogged Microsoft in the past, the most recent example being Apple's Expose technology, which will ship in Mac OS X 10.3 late this year. Microsoft has been demonstrating Expose-like technology for years now, but the technology won't show up in Windows until the Longhorn release at the earliest.
http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/Art...367/40367.html
Comments
Originally posted by Aquatic
Even if it was right who cares? Microsoft doesn't invent anything good that is in their products.
It DOES matter. If nothing more than to show whether Paul Thurrott is as full of **** as he seems. Sorry for the harsh language. I just get so upset sometimes.
Mental note to self: must not forget to take the yellow pills next time...
Edited because my grammatical skills many times don't keep up with my typing.
Originally posted by the cool gut
I cannot believe Apple would stoop to such a level!
http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/Art...367/40367.html
This was brought up a few weeks ago this same exact thing, its all a pile of steaming crap. Microsoft HAS NOT demo'd anything even close to expose, even recently all they have been able to demo is wavy windows and not actually demoing them in anything useful other than saying "look we can make a window wavy" its not even as fancy as apple has had with 10.0(with the genie minimize).
Apple Copied MS's Expose Texhnology??? Yeah, Right...
A few good points there. Paul Thurrott's article has little real substance.
Clueless PeeCee troll. Disregard.
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/longhorn_aero.asp
But he doesn't provide enough info to tell so maybe I'm wrong?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._longhorn_dc_3
Quartz, which has been around since early 2001, is a similar window-compositing technology; Exposé, on the other hand, is simply an application of that technology to window management. To say that Mirosoft has been showing off anything UI-related that's even comparable to Expose is a lie. They've barely caught up to Quartz (which was around a half-year before XP was even on the shelves) in a tech demo here or there. Now let's see them actually do something with it.
Apple: Quartz and Quartz Extreme
Microsoft: Aero (quartz-like WC)
Apple: Exposé
Paul Thurrot: Exposé is Quartz [wrong!] and thus the Panther WC came after Earo was introduced [thus wrong again].
Or what?
Originally posted by Anders
So cronologially:
Apple: Quartz and Quartz Extreme
Microsoft: Aero (quartz-like WC)
Apple: Exposé
Paul Thurrot: Exposé is Quartz [wrong!] and thus the Panther WC came after Earo was introduced [thus wrong again].
Or what?
The potential for Expose was there since Quartz was there. You saw the neato genie minimizations on Apple's part. It just that there wasn't any useful way yet imagined to exploit that technology into something that would actually improve workflow. Sure, Microsoft showed a bunch of shrunken, buoyant windows floating around in the background, but that was a tech demo, not a solution to clutter, as Expose is. If you want to argue that it's the technology, not the idea, then Apple had teeny windows in the dock since day one (and again, this is before Windows XP even grew out of its "Whistler" codename), so they still win this little spat.
I also want to distinguish between the UI and the window compositor. Aero is NOT responsible for all this craziness we're talking about. Aqua is to Aero as Quartz Extreme is to Avalon. Aero is simply the (ever-changing) "style" of the windows, just as Luna is the current one on XP, which glistens with "the make-up of a cheap whore" as one AI member once put it.
Paul Thurrott can't even get the name of his own Windows technologies right.