Sorry about the repetition but this thread was declared "Not future hardware" and was locked. I believe this is the appropriate forum for a discussion.
I know all about the differences between the Intel, AMD and G4 chips. I know that mhz for mhz the G4 does well for specific apps and also performs faster clock for clock than Intel offerings. However even if I were a complete Apple apologist I have to admit that the bandwidth available due to SD-RAM is not the same as for DDR-RAM.
We can all argue over who should be responsible for adding what feature (Does G4 support DDR, is it Apple's fault motherboards are behind or Motorola's...etc.)but the point really is this. Can Apple continue to sell a meaningful number of machines in the onslaught of not only megahertz madness but also lack of DDR, second drive bay, and a substancial price premium?
The G4@933 with a 15 inch LCD display has the following specs for $2599
256MB SDRAM - 1 DIMM 065-3342
Apple Pro Keyboard - U.S. English 065-3160
Accessory kit 065-3332
Mac OS - U.S. English 065-3333
933MHz PowerPC G4 065-3426
56K internal modem 065-3080
CD-RW drive 065-3371
60GB Ultra ATA drive 065-3336
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX dual (64meg DDR-RAM)
Dell is selling laptops Inspiron 8200(NOT DESKTOPS) with
In case you didn't notice that means that the laptop is less than the desktop. Many of Apple's former advantages over the PC side have disappeared as well. Most laptops come with networking built in and now even with firewire built in. The laptop will drive dual displays if youcount the internal lcd. This machine comes with BETTER specs than the Mac on processor speed, ram, combo drive, and software.
How long can Apple survive in an environment like this? I mean when the desktops can't compete with PC laptops then things are really pretty bad. To top it off Apple has even killed any speculation of catching up by confirming that there will be little in the way of upgrades for at least a few months.
Something has got to give... OS X is kickass, the iApps obviously help sell machines, but I mean will it overcome hardware as lopsided as this?
we've known this. apple's hardware is severely lagging... what exactly is your point? and by that i mean new point that hasn't been hashed over a thousand times on these boards. See some other threads on apple dieing, ok?
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I know all about the differences between the Intel, AMD and G4 chips. I know that mhz for mhz the G4 does well for specific apps and also performs faster clock for clock than Intel offerings. However even if I were a complete Apple apologist I have to admit that the bandwidth available due to SD-RAM is not the same as for DDR-RAM.
We can all argue over who should be responsible for adding what feature (Does G4 support DDR, is it Apple's fault motherboards are behind or Motorola's...etc.)but the point really is this. Can Apple continue to sell a meaningful number of machines in the onslaught of not only megahertz madness but also lack of DDR, second drive bay, and a substancial price premium?
The G4@933 with a 15 inch LCD display has the following specs for $2599
256MB SDRAM - 1 DIMM 065-3342
Apple Pro Keyboard - U.S. English 065-3160
Accessory kit 065-3332
Mac OS - U.S. English 065-3333
933MHz PowerPC G4 065-3426
56K internal modem 065-3080
CD-RW drive 065-3371
60GB Ultra ATA drive 065-3336
NVIDIA GeForce4 MX dual (64meg DDR-RAM)
Dell is selling laptops Inspiron 8200(NOT DESKTOPS) with
[email protected] ghz
256 megs DDR-RAM
Quicken 2002
40 gig HD (They don't offer 60 gig laptop drive)
cdr/dvd combo drive
64MB DDR 4XAGP NVIDIA GeForce4 440 Go? 3D Video
Microsoft®Works Suite 2002 with Money 2002
56k modem
10/100 network intergrated
1394 port
display is 15 in LCDw/1600x1200
Win XP professional
price..$2,505.00
In case you didn't notice that means that the laptop is less than the desktop. Many of Apple's former advantages over the PC side have disappeared as well. Most laptops come with networking built in and now even with firewire built in. The laptop will drive dual displays if youcount the internal lcd. This machine comes with BETTER specs than the Mac on processor speed, ram, combo drive, and software.
How long can Apple survive in an environment like this? I mean when the desktops can't compete with PC laptops then things are really pretty bad. To top it off Apple has even killed any speculation of catching up by confirming that there will be little in the way of upgrades for at least a few months.
Something has got to give... OS X is kickass, the iApps obviously help sell machines, but I mean will it overcome hardware as lopsided as this?
Nick