The Super-SuperDrive for the next PM Gen.?
Hi all,
just read that Pioneer will launch it's first DVD+R9 burner in July - would be in time for the dual 3 GHz PowerMacs that SJ promised, wouldn't it?
BTW, to all of you who don't know what DVD+R9 means: Those are double-layered DVDs that can store up to 8.5 Gigabytes (theoritically, in reality the number will be more like 8 GB)
greetz,
durandal
Edit: I read the news at the german computer news page heise.de:
http://heise.de/newsticker/meldung/45751
just read that Pioneer will launch it's first DVD+R9 burner in July - would be in time for the dual 3 GHz PowerMacs that SJ promised, wouldn't it?
BTW, to all of you who don't know what DVD+R9 means: Those are double-layered DVDs that can store up to 8.5 Gigabytes (theoritically, in reality the number will be more like 8 GB)
greetz,
durandal
Edit: I read the news at the german computer news page heise.de:
http://heise.de/newsticker/meldung/45751
Comments
We still need more info though. Will DVD Studio Pro be able to write correct layer changes on these drives? That's a biggie. Producers need to be able to proof their DVD-9 projects and doing it on a dual layer DVD will make their lives a lot easier.
If there were any doubts about DVD Recording they're gone now. We have low-cost 4x drives now. 8x drives and soon 16x Single Layer and 8x Dual Layer coming. The choices are great!
Originally posted by Messiah
I thought there was some sort of hack that turned the existing Pioneer 4x drives into dual-layer burners anyway?
Supposedly at CES Pioneer demonstrated a firmware update used on the 106 or 107 (can't remember which) would allow burning to dual layered disks. I say supposedly because only two sites reported this, and they were both french. You would think news this big would have hit a few more sites. But at the same time, how could they make up something like that. Too many people could say "stupid french, I was at CES and Pioneer had nothing of the sort". If they made it up, it would be easy enough for people to point out and cry foul.
Originally posted by Jubelum
Does dual layer burning use traditional DVD-R or special DLD media? I am ready to have the RevB with 8x SuperDrive... or do you think we will stick to the 4x?
Special media. You can't use a traditional dvd-r disk, as it only has the one layer. There is no second layer to be burned
Originally posted by kupan787
Special media. You can't use a traditional dvd-r disk, as it only has the one layer. There is no second layer to be burned
Didn't think so... that would be TOO easy. Any idea of the cost? I googled it a bit and did not see a price for the media...
Originally posted by Jubelum
Didn't think so... that would be TOO easy. Any idea of the cost? I googled it a bit and did not see a price for the media...
I doubt any are made yet, as there is nothing that could use it currently. They will also probably be pretty expensive at first (I could see it being like $5 a disk, like DVD-Rs were originally).
Originally posted by hmurchison
8x Dual Layer coming. The choices are great!
8x dual-layer where? Phillips? Sneaky advertising actually. The 8x dual-layer burner burns 8x DVD+R, but only 2.4x DVD+R9.
The upcoming Pioneer and Sony DVD+R9 drives only write at 2.4x as well.
SuperDrive Extreme anyone?
In all seriousness, it would rawk to have Macs come with dual layer capable burners. Unfortunately for me, it would be a tad hard to justify two new computers in one year
Barto
Originally posted by Barto
More like the Super Happy Lucky Drive!
Do not taunt the Super Happy Fun Drive.
Originally posted by CryhavocQ
Do not taunt the Super Happy Fun Drive.
LOL!
Originally posted by wmf
Apple doesn't do +R; they will wait until dual layer -R is available.
SuperDrive Extreme anyone?
And they should, since the plus media doesn't work in very many DVD players.
Originally posted by cubist
And they should, since the plus media doesn't work in very many DVD players.
That is BS. + work in like 70-80% or something and - work in 80-90%. I forget what the extact %'s were, but it was something like that. You can't say they won't work with alot, because they do, but just not as many as -.
Pet Peev: Calling it DVD minus R or DVD dash R. It's just DVDR just like it's CDR. Since + is a different thing from the original, you have to say it different. My feelings
Originally posted by wmf
Apple doesn't do +R; they will wait until dual layer -R is available.
SuperDrive Extreme anyone?
I think the only reason they use -R single layer is because of Pioneer. I personally think that if it wasn't for pioneer +R would be more common.
This is about the state of DVD technology and it's implementation, not Apple or Apple's fault.
Also, I'll get my new DVD burner (Superdrive) when I get my new PB in a month when the next gens are released, but before I purchase another DVD-R drive, I will wait until the new HD DVD or Blu-ray disc drives come out. Those use blue lasers and can burn up to 50GB on a single disc. The red light of current dvd lasers has a wavelength of 650nm, but the new blue lasers have only 405nm. The shorter the wavelength, the more bursts the laser can produce in a given amount of time. Plus, the burn marks on the actual disc are smaller, so you can fit even more data. You can fit about 27GB on a single side of a disc, but some sources give different information. You could buy one of these drives for about $3500 from Sony Japan if you really want to. Unfortunately, theres 2 incompatible formats coming out that both use the blue lasers.... Anyways, that's my next DVD purchase.
Can anyone tell me the difference between -R and +R?
Originally posted by Mordak
Can anyone tell me the difference between -R and +R?
From what i have read it take it that -r dvds can only be written once or for one session also i think the data is written in order. dvd +r can have multiple sessions written on randam places.
someone correct me if im wrong