OS X on a USB flash device?

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in macOS edited January 2014
I would love to be able to boot X from one of those little USB "keychain dongle" things to run Norton, Disk Warrior, etc.



Can I install a (minimal, bare-bones) OS X onto a 256 MB USB flash device (Belkin, etc)?



Can I boot OS X from it?

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  • Reply 1 of 4
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by dstranathan

    I would love to be able to boot X from one of those little USB "keychain dongle" things to run Norton, Disk Warrior, etc.



    Can I install a (minimal, bare-bones) OS X onto a 256 MB USB flash device (Belkin, etc)?



    Can I boot OS X from it?




    I don't think that's possible. OS X is too big.
  • Reply 2 of 4
    dmband0026dmband0026 Posts: 2,345member
    Another problem would be speed...unless it was USB 2.0. You could never boot an OS on a USB 1.1 drive.
  • Reply 3 of 4
    You can boot an OS on USB 1.1. It would be plenty fast, depending on what you would be using it for.



    The problems with flash...



    1- Not many computers can boot off a USB flash drive. Very few PCs can and I have yet to hear of someone doing so on a Mac. I am currently working on a project at home that will boot Linux off a flash drive, and I have concluded that if the compter does not have a hard drive with a useable swap partition or swap file then you better hope that the computer has enough RAM.



    2- The drive would have to be mounted read-only. This would be needed to save the flash drive from a VERY early death. The last thing you want is OSX using part of the drive as scratch space. The average flash based drive can last ~300,000 read/write cycles. That sounds like a lot but a computer can clear that number in a few days without a problem if it is being used as a scratch disk. So if the drive is read only, then it will last you a long time.



    3- Plenty of RAM needed. If the Mac does not have a lot of ram then OSX will not have that much room to play with. I don't know if OSX will use a local hard drive for swap space but if it does you might be in luck.







    I would just make a custom boot CD. Bigger then a flash drive, true, but cheap and easy.
  • Reply 4 of 4
    guestguest Posts: 112member
    I use a 128 MB USB 1.1 thumb drive to boot OS 9.2.2, about a 76 MB system folder. I have Diskwarrior 3, Techtool 3, Norton on it. Plug it in and hold down the option key at startup to get a choice of boot drives, click on the one you want and it boots. Repair OSX with Diskwarrior. To install OSX on a thumb drive will probably need a 2 GB size ($$$).



    It is possible to have a different swap drive from the boot drive; I use a separate 3 GB swap for OSX. You just have to modify the OSX boot instructions to use the other drive. It should be easy to do so using a thumb drive, but I have no idea how much space reduction it would save on the boot disc requirements.
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