new ibook benchmarks???????
I'm in the market for a new laptop. It's going to be for my wife so I was thinking on the lines of an ibook. So yesterday I wanted to compare the speed between a Powerbook and an ibook. I couldn't find one article on this subject. Now, I'm talking about the new Powerbook (667) vs the new ibook (700). Both have been out for a while now but no benchmarks. Then I began to search for any benchmarks for the Mac, very limited. Most are very old and if you do find something the test is a limited Quake test or MP3 convert. Where are those in depth speed comparisons you find for the PC, <a href="http://www.tomshardware.com"; target="_blank">www.tomshardware.com</a> style website. Could someone please point out any website that has good benchmarks for the Mac. I tried <a href="http://www.xlr8yourmac.com"; target="_blank">www.xlr8yourmac.com</a> and <a href="http://www.macspeedzone.com"; target="_blank">www.macspeedzone.com</a> but I couldn't find anything worth reading.
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<strong>I not aware that the 'new' iBook had shipped yet. So thats the reason for no benches. I believe that barefeats.com has some new Ti800 scores up. Might check that out at least.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes they have in fact shipped. I'm typing this reply on mine. It's a iBook 700mhz with 256RAM (which i'm upgrading to 512 soon) and and combo drive. I didn't go the extra mile for the 14" because I wanted it to be more portable than the 14" model offered.
I can say that I am QUITE please with the performace thus far. It runs Photoshop 6 & 7 without a hitch, as well as Mac OS X. Just a side note for all the gamers out there. I was making my friends jealous when they saw it's gaming graphics, and their running up to 2.2Ghz PC Towers.
If anyone can point me to an benchmarking app, i'll be glad to post some results here.
All hail the iBook! :eek:
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I was making my friends jealous when they saw it's gaming graphics, and their running up to 2.2Ghz PC Towers.
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Yeah, sure you were. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
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side note for all the gamers out there. I was making my friends jealous when they saw it's gaming graphics, and their running up to 2.2Ghz PC Towers.
All hail the iBook! :eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>
yes, we all hope to see the ibooks 1-3 fps "gaming" graphics. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
There is a web site:
<a href="http://www.insidemacgames.com/hardware/"; target="_blank">http://www.insidemacgames.com/hardware/</a>;
they research demo's from apple as well as
game prod. and test new products including
ibook and powerbook etc...check them out
they convinced me to get an ibook
From what I remember them saying eight months ago, an ibook will fulfill 80% of a users demands. Have fun...
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Originally posted by cyko95:
I was making my friends jealous when they saw it's gaming graphics, and their running up to 2.2Ghz PC Towers.
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Yeah, sure you were. <hr></blockquote>
such cynicism when Apple's screens do look much better than th cheap monsters favoured by PC gamers, so provided th game runs smoothly th mac looks better; or maybe they're just jealous of th portability...
Most hardcore gamers will prefer a CRT, due to faster refresh rates CRTs do not suffer from the "ghosting" of LCDs (especially laptop LCDs). CRTs also have the ability to run at much higher resolutions, and are cheaper. Gamers are cheapskates.
I doubt that an iBook could run any modern 3D game decently (40fps+ average) at 1024 x 768 x 32.
<strong>I doubt that an iBook could run any modern 3D game decently (40fps+ average) at 1024 x 768 x 32.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually I just ran a time demo in UT and Q3 and here are the results.
Q3A
1024x768 - 53fps
800x600 - 68fps
UT
1024x768 - 62fps
800x600 - 78fps
I think you are underestimating the Radeon Mobility and 750fx chipsets.
This was on a iBook 700/30GB/12.1"/Combo/384MB RAM
<strong>Yeah, I can't believe that tidbit doesn't have its own thread...On the fly overclocking in software seems cool enough.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000970"; target="_blank">thread</a>
The plot thickens....
found at: <a href="http://barefeats.com/pb8.html"; target="_blank">http://barefeats.com/pb8.html</a>;
How can this be?! An iBook 700 outperforming a PM G4/800MP GeF2MX?????? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
G3s do less branch prediction than G4s. Ray-tracing involves MANY branch failures.
G4s perform best when fed tasks that are easily divded into vector-space tasks and integer tasks. There are so many vector-transforms in ray-tracing, I wouldn't be surprised if the computation becomes AltiVec bound, rather than being well-divided between the units. Then, if the AltiVec unit cannot alone outrun the G3, the G4 is slower. Not impossible, if the vector operations happen to be trivial ones, as again, is common in ray-tracing. The AltiVec unit is designed to be general in its approach to vectors. It would be a case of slightly naive optimization that couldn't be tested with a high speed G3.
Think back to the days when the Voodoo boards ran 16-bit colour faster than the TNT boards did, because the Voodoo boards didn't have any 32 bit colour programming. Here, a simple comparison test might determine that a certain vector need not be transformed. That takes a third of a cycle on the G3. In the G4 "optimized" code, the vector is fed into the AltiVec unit without testing so as not to risk a branch failure, but the AltiVec spends a whole cycle transforming a vector that needn't have been.
Then, also, we're talking about a different G3 here. 750fx, no? I'm not up on the reference manuals.
Even further, much of the speed advantage the G4 has is probably that people optimize for it now and skip optimizing for the G3. If one made optimized code for each, they'd run closer, but who thinks that's important anymore? Only the iBooks use the G3, and iBook users aren't important.
Of course, the final answer might be that Bryce hasn't been updated to the G4 era at all, but I have no info there.
[ 06-18-2002: Message edited by: AllenChristopher ]</p>