Apple's wireless bluetooth mouse is amazing indeed, but I refuse to have to use the control button everytime i would like to right click. Is there any other way to right click with the apple wireless mouse? what do most apple users have? maybe a logitech or microsoft 2-button mouse?
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I have had multi-button mice but always go back to the TrackPad or Apple mouse.
The only other mouse I've used and liked was the Contour MiniPro.
http://www.contourdesign.com/minipro.htm
It is symmetrical, the 2nd button is behind the first. It's VERY nice to use on a portable.
It would be perfect if it was wireless and if the made multiple sizes.
I LOVE that little mouse.
Originally posted by Ichiban_jay
right click where? almost nothing on mac osx needs a right click. like the bar at the bottom of the screen, you can click and hold for about 2 secs and it'll act as if it was right clicked.
Yeah, "click and hold" is such a great concept.
Unfortunately it is not system wide and rarely available.
And FinderPop is not being made for Mac OS X nor will it ever be apparently.
Originally posted by Mordak
The dock is the only place click and hold works. Trust me--im fully aware of that. I was thinking more like the delete, copy, paste, etc on the right click. Those are fast, simple features that I like to have.
My job requires a lot of copy and paste, nothing is easier then assigning a button to each action. I use a Logitech MX500. Both thumb buttons copy/paste respectively its great. Faster then using the keyboard.
You would have to either use a multi-button (mine has 8
Know there is a BT version of my mouse, but I've heard mixed results since Logitech doesn't officially support it in Mac OS X.
That's the whole *reason* behind shipping a one-button mouse. (We just need to put this in a FAQ.) Developers *cannot* assume that more than one button exists on their user's computer, therefore they *HAVE* to make every single action available through single-button use *only*. This is called a good thing. Any other access through right-click, 3rd button, scroll wheel + 5th button + shake your left leg for three seconds might be provided as a convenience, but *every* action has to be findable and usable through a single-button model.
Why? Nothing is hidden from the user that way, and everything is *discoverable* in an easy manner. This encourages users to play around and see what they can see. Throwing everything into a contextual menu that changes on a regular basis (see Windows) doesn't lend itself to a clean cognitive model for the user. The contextual menu should definitely be intelligently populated and hold useful items, but it should *only* be used for efficiency and convenience, much like command key combos. No MacOS X application should ever be *solely* keystroke driven (with the exception of obvious things like games), and likewise, no application should have its functionality hidden where it can't be found by simply mousing around and clicking on things.
And the only way to *enforce* this mentality in the developers is to make them *never* able to assume that their user has a multiple button mouse.
As was said before, everyone has their own idea of how many buttons they need, and mice are so bloody cheap that it's usually a drop in the bucket. Not to mention that most folks have a 'favorite mouse' that they migrate from old computer to new one...
Let 'em stick with the one button mouse. It's the simplest solution to the larger issue.
Other then that it is important to ship a one-button. That was weird when I switched back in 2001, but I've grown accustom to using any mouse setup. At home I use an 8-button, at work a one button, both Macs.
BTW, I have a logitech, too, and having a button mapped to 'Close Window' (CMD-W) saves a lot of time.
Originally posted by Placebo
But the thing is, Kickaha, that although every command is accessible without right clicking, the ability to right click makes everything a whole lot easier.
You're right, it does. I have a multi-button mouse myself.
But the point is that it is *EASIER*, not *REQUIRED*.
You want to see the hell that can happen, go take a look at the X11 based UIs out there... Motif in particular. *shudder* You think Windows is bad? Oh my dear lord. I've seen actions in Motif apps that were accessible *ONLY* through selecting a particular item with the third button, then bringing up a contextual menu. Select it with the first or second button? Nope, sorry. That particular action didn't show up in the contextual menu. It is *hell*, I tell you... *HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL*! *ahem*
Developers (and I include myself in this) are a lazy bunch. We'll get away with whatever we can. "Oh heck, just put it on the right-click menu for now, we'll figure out where it goes later..." -> it never does. Forcing developers to design systems, from the start, with discoverability in mind is essential to keeping a system that's easy to use and easy to learn. Allowing them to add in efficiencies keeps them scalable for power users. You have to have both. Luckily, we do.
Still want to pick up an SGI to completement my Macs. Yeah I know, I have issues 8)
Originally posted by IonYz
Motif!? [Sniff sniff]
Still want to pick up an SGI to completement my Macs. Yeah I know, I have issues 8)
I want one too. And a cheap laptop for me to hack around in Linux. Pretty much something to force me to brush up on my Unix skills. We should start a club.