Does anyone know if the current Ti powerbook's internal optical drive (DVD/CDRW) can burn 8cm disks? I couldn't find the anything about them in the documentation.
I hope it can -- I've really fallen for those 8cm disks.
Just to clarify, Apple has clearly stated that their drives will not work with mini disks and in fact, once in, some drives will be unable to eject the disk.
Sony (I think) makes an adapter for the mini-CDs so that you can put them in slot loading drives. I don't know if you can buy it separately, as it usually comes with their cameras (the ones that save data onto mini-CDs.)
We need to start a realistic competitive non-RDF price/spec correlation petition. No more twice as much for half as fast machines/prices. Better expandability and software support for third party peripherals. Basically, we need a Steve Jobs recto-cranial axis realignment petition -- We here the undersigned sincerely request that Jobs' gets his head out of his a$$.
Umm, the slot-loading effect is kinda key to the whole 1" thick aspect of the powerbook (and i'd bet it weighs less than a tray also). After owning mine for 4 months, it's a tradeoff that I'm very much happy to make.
There are notebooks that are even thinner than the Ti (in Japan) that incorporate a TRAY loading device. A laptop tray load is just as thin as a slot load. The mechanism is still there on the slot (it just stays inside) The manual trays of notebooks actually have less moving parts.
"The 80 mm and 120 mm round discs are the only size and shape that work with slot loading or slotted tray CD-ROM and DVD-ROM drives. See Figures 1 and 2."
I think it is a smame that this is the case all the slotloading iMacs support 80mm disks and Apple should not build machines that can't stake standard disks. An 80mm disk is a standard disk, it is offically recognised.
So I take it the iBooks are out when it comes to this?? I actually just used a mini cd in mine the other day when i burned some drivers for a friends wintel machine.
It's quite simple: if you have a slot-loading drive, don't put in smaller or odd-shaped discs. If you have a snap-in tray-loading drive, do as you please with them. And if you are a manufacturer or producer of CDs and are thinking about using an odd shape/size, think about the audience you're losing and do the smart thing. It is possible to have cool-looking CDs that are normal-sized but not necessarily fully used (as in, readable all the way to the edge). I've gotten a few demos that have about the same readable area as an 80mm, but have clear plastic around the edges decorated in an interesting fashion.
I'm not real sure about the PowerMacs which have tray-load drives but you don't snap the discs in, though.. I wonder how they would stay aligned for that.
The thing is, unlike all the odd shaped cd's (whose makers ought to be bludgeoned with broken iPods) the 8cm disc has ALWAYS been a part of both the CD and DVD spec, ALWAYS!!! When drive makers make a drive that doesn't fully support the spec, that's annoying, when Apple uses said drive in a product,
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[ 08-29-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
-Mike
Jobs can be such a damn tool.
Maybe we need to start a "bring back the tray petition."
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You can use 8cm disks in a TiBook, according to Apple. But you can't use any other sizes, or strange shapes like business card CDs.
Amorya
"Important You should not insert 80 mm round discs in the PowerBook G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) computer."
You can use them in all other Powerbook G4s.
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Amorya
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The PowerBook G4 (Gigabit Ethernet) and PowerBook G4 (DVI) computers will not accept an 80 mm round disc.
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It's quite simple: if you have a slot-loading drive, don't put in smaller or odd-shaped discs. If you have a snap-in tray-loading drive, do as you please with them. And if you are a manufacturer or producer of CDs and are thinking about using an odd shape/size, think about the audience you're losing and do the smart thing. It is possible to have cool-looking CDs that are normal-sized but not necessarily fully used (as in, readable all the way to the edge). I've gotten a few demos that have about the same readable area as an 80mm, but have clear plastic around the edges decorated in an interesting fashion.
I'm not real sure about the PowerMacs which have tray-load drives but you don't snap the discs in, though.. I wonder how they would stay aligned for that.
[ 08-31-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>