Radeon 7000 vs. Rage Pro 128 Comparisson
I'm not very knowledgable in the world of video cards... Could someone tell me how much better the Radeon card would be compared to the older Rage card? Any links to benchmark sites would also be appreciated!
I'm looking at replacing my older Rage card with a newer card for better gameplay, and also a card that can take advantage of Apple's new Quartz Extreme. see this link.
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I'm looking at replacing my older Rage card with a newer card for better gameplay, and also a card that can take advantage of Apple's new Quartz Extreme. see this link.
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As the dude say the radeon 7000 is slower than the original radeon card but probabily much faster than the rage pro 128.
But the point is : avoid these two cards if you want to do 3D.
the radeon 7500 is a much better choice, and there will be promotions in the future for the radeon 8500 since the introduction of the radeon 9000.
Geforce 4 mx are a much better deal than any radeon 7000.
<strong>all i can say about radeon 7000 vs rage pro 128 is that both cards are bad.
As the dude say the radeon 7000 is slower than the original radeon card but probabily much faster than the rage pro 128.
But the point is : avoid these two cards if you want to do 3D.
the radeon 7500 is a much better choice, and there will be promotions in the future for the radeon 8500 since the introduction of the radeon 9000.
Geforce 4 mx are a much better deal than any radeon 7000.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was assuming that he had a PCI PowerMac since he wanted the 7000, but if that actually is not the case, go with the Radeon 8500. It is much better than the 7000. Or go with the Radeon 9000 which is a little slower and cheaper than the 8500.
Blueflame
[ 09-02-2002: Message edited by: Blueflame ]</p>
It does have a 4x AGP slot, but I was just looking at the whole upgrade through the eyes of a "poor student".
I think I've decided to get the 8500. It is a little more expensive, but I think it'll definately be worth it. I'm hoping the Quartz Extreme can make up where my G4 processor lags... I do a LOT of Photoshop work, and somedays the system is just pushed to it's limits.
Oh... I Also heard that ATI cards are better for 2D graphics (ie: Photoshop, Illustrator) than nVidia cards.... ??
Thanks for all the help!
[ 09-02-2002: Message edited by: erbium ]</p>
Since the Radeon 7000 is the last PCI card available, I'd recommend getting that, or if you can still find one, an original radeon PCI Mac edition, which is faster, but also more expensive, and not capable of driving 2 monitors at once.
As for speed levels, it's: (slow to fast)
Rage 128 (rev a)
Rage 128 (rev b, identical to PC version)
Rage 128 Pro
(Rage 128 Ultra)
Radeon 7000
Radeon Mac Edition
Then it would go on with AGP cards:
Radeon 7500 (faster Radeon core)
Radeon 8500LE (not available on Mac I think)
Radeon 9000 Pro
Radeon 8500
Radeon 9700 Pro
as for nVidia cards, it's:
(AGP only)
GeForce 2 MX 200 (flashable)
GeForce 2
GeForce 2 MX 400 (not flashable)
GeForce 256 (not on Mac)
GeForce 2 (not on Mac)
GeForce 2 Pro (not on Mac)
GeForce 4 MX 420
GeForce 2 Ultra (all the same except for clockspeed) (not on Mac)
GeForce 4 MX 440
GeForce 4 MX 460
GeForce 3 ti 200
GeForce 3
GeForce 3 Ti 500
GeForce 4 ti 4200
GF4 Ti 4400
GF4 ti 4600
Of course that's only roughly so.
Note that any machine prior to a Blue&white G3 has never been successfully used in conjunction with a flashed PC GeForce 2 MX PCI card.
Only few companies even make PCI nvidia cards, and none of them officially support Mac OS 9 or X.
G-News
[ 09-02-2002: Message edited by: G-News ]</p>
Go <a href="http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?s=c9e749bb78957d5b4c84c06fc084e233&; postid=993285#post993285" target="_blank">here</a>
(that's the last page of the thread so you might wanna read through it)
The PC Radeon 8500s can be had for as little as $100 now, and your best bet is to find a regular stock ATI retail card. newegg.com would be a good site to check, I think they have the retails sellin pretty cheap. It's pretty easy to flash one in your G4 so just read the instructions on how to do this. Also check xlr8yourmac.com .
If you can wait, the Radeon 9700 should be out in a couple months, although it will cost a fair penny. Most likely I'm going to switch my GF4MX card out for one. As soon as Mac drivers are leaked guys will be flashing these cards as well.
I'll try to simplify your search and give you an exact card to look for and instructions.
?the GeForce 2 MX 400 is flashable, I did this, others did this
?I believe there is no such thing as a GeForce 2 (and only that), GeForce 2 GTS is the name, and is between GF2MX400 and GF2Pro in performance.
? The GeForce 256 is the slowest GeForce-card (and it's the original one). The GF2MX 200 might be slower than the '256 one, I'm not quite sure.
? the Geforce 3 ti 200/500 is "(not for mac)
?the Mac-edition RADEON 8500 is a mix of pure 8500 and 8500LE (slower GPU, same RAM)
It's times like these when I'm glad I bought a G4 tower, and not en iBook like I had originally planned.
I just knew one of them wasn't
I'm pretty sure teh original radeon ist faster than the MX 200.
GeForce 2 = GeForce 2 GTS, that is correct.
The 3 Ti's not being Mac compatible is correct too
I could also go on taking about the ForMac ProFormance cards adn VillageTronic cards
Needless to say the TNT, TNT2 and TNT 2 Ultra preceeded the GeForce 256.
G-News