Why doesn't Apple go Cordless

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Having this new beauitul iMac in my 'den' I just can't stand all the wires attached to it. It's such an elegant design but then all these white wires like spagetti around it. Before I start performing some 'point of no return' operations on my computer desk for hiding them I'm gonna try and find some nice looking cordless keyboard and mouse to complement it. But I'm not sure if I'll have a problem opening the Superdrive tray with <a href="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/details&CRID=630&CONTENTID=5060&countryid=4&langua geid=1" target="_blank">this one.</a> I know it doesn't look fab but at least I get rid of the wires.



Anywais, wouldn't it be smart if Apple could offer some nice looking cordless input devices? With Airport the iMac could start looking like it does in the adds <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



[ 09-25-2002: Message edited by: kelib ]</p>
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  • Reply 1 of 23
    wmfwmf Posts: 1,164member
    Batteries are bad.
  • Reply 2 of 23
    Maybe one day we'll have "user powered" input devices where the energy for the device comes from the motion imparted on it by the user.



    Or you could just have thermal radiation powered devices and turn off the fans on the new PowerMac.
  • Reply 3 of 23
    Wireless is too impractical and inconvenient for the small benefit it offers. I mean, who really wants to change the batteries on their mouse or type from 12 feet away from the computer?



    ADC was a nice idea to remove some of the cable clutter associated with a computer. Those Printer/Scanner/Fax devices are a nice idea too. Wireless networking helps. More internal drive bays helps reduce the number of external drives attached to a computer.



    There certainly are a decent amount of options available to reduce the number of wires on your computer, and I think wireless mice and keyboards are the worst of the ideas.
  • Reply 4 of 23
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    [quote]Originally posted by rogue27:

    <strong>Wireless is too impractical and inconvenient for the small benefit it offers. I mean, who really wants to change the batteries on their mouse or type from 12 feet away from the computer?

    </strong><hr></blockquote> I do But honestly, I agree with you up to a point. I just think outstanding design has become such an integral part of the whole Mac concept (especially the iMac) that it would be worth it offering us eccentrics some options there.
  • Reply 5 of 23
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    [quote]Originally posted by kelib:

    <strong>But I'm not sure if I'll have a problem opening the Superdrive tray with <a href="http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/details&CRID=630&CONTENTID=5060&countryid=4&langua geid=1" target="_blank">this one.</a></strong><hr></blockquote>



    it works. you can assign some buttons to functions, like the eject button.
  • Reply 6 of 23
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by Defiant:

    <strong>



    it works. you can assign some buttons to functions, like the eject button.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yep. I got a logitech keyboard last week and I set a key for eject and it works perfectly.
  • Reply 7 of 23
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>



    Yep. I got a logitech keyboard last week and I set a key for eject and it works perfectly.</strong><hr></blockquote> Nice to hear. Are you happy with the keyboard over all? I had a Microsoft Intelli Keyboard with my old iMac DV SE and it was fine but somehow lacking the 'Mac feeling' whatever that is. The old Extended keyboard is still the best Kb I've ever used. The current 'Pro' KB is fine too but not sure how long it will last. It's being typed on 10 hours+ a day. The old black iMac kb lasted only a year, then I started having problems with 2 or 3 keys and cleaning it didn't help.
  • Reply 8 of 23
    Firewire transports power over the same cable as the connection...



    Wireless FireWire:





    (moves hand in front of port...)



    *zzt*

    *zzt*

    "ahhhhhh...!"



    *sirens...*



  • Reply 9 of 23
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    First of all, cordless is a gimmick right now. Some people can get it working better than others. People (and especially journalists) tend to forget that innovation doesn't involve being the first to research or ship a technology, it involves being the first to make it useful (see USB, 802.11b); whether a technology actually gets used defines whether it stays or goes, after all.



    Second of all, you can lock USB keyboards and mice to their host PCs. This is crucial for educational, public, and corporate/government settings. Anyone could pocket a wireless mouse. So if Apple did go wireless, it would have to maintain two lines of input peripherals. Considering the market for wireless, why not leave that as a third-party opportunity?



    Lastly, it's so un-Apple to require a third-party dongle (the D-Link adapter) to use peripherals as fundamental as a keyboard and a mouse. Apple won't even attempt wireless until the appropriate means of communication is built into the hardware, standard.
  • Reply 10 of 23
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by kelib:

    <strong> Nice to hear. Are you happy with the keyboard over all? I had a Microsoft Intelli Keyboard with my old iMac DV SE and it was fine but somehow lacking the 'Mac feeling' whatever that is. The old Extended keyboard is still the best Kb I've ever used. The current 'Pro' KB is fine too but not sure how long it will last. It's being typed on 10 hours+ a day. The old black iMac kb lasted only a year, then I started having problems with 2 or 3 keys and cleaning it didn't help.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I love this keyboard. The reason why I stopped using the Pro Keyboard was because it wasn't comfortable while typing for long periods of time. This keyboard is much better and all of the other buttons are very useful.
  • Reply 11 of 23
    I personally find that Logitech wireless keyboard to be much less stylish and graceful as the Apple Pro with a cord.
  • Reply 12 of 23
    [quote]Originally posted by kelib:

    <strong> I do But honestly, I agree with you up to a point. I just think outstanding design has become such an integral part of the whole Mac concept (especially the iMac) that it would be worth it offering us eccentrics some options there.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That's what the 3rd party market is for. It's not worth it for Apple to invest the resources in developing a wireless keyboard that the majority of their customers would find to be more hassle than it's worth.



    Maybe if/when bluetooth becomes an integral part of all macs, the possibilities of a wireless keyboard will be explored, but changing batteries is still very un-apple like and unless they could make a solar and kinetic powered Bluetooth keyboard that was affordable (in the mind of a company that thinks it's ok to charge $60 for a keyboard), then maybe you'd see it show up, but then you'd lose the powerered usb ports on your keyboard.



    Too many trade-offs to be done in the near term.
  • Reply 13 of 23
    g-newsg-news Posts: 1,107member
    "Why doesn't Apple go Cordless"



    because cordless mice and keyboards suck, that's why.



    G-News
  • Reply 14 of 23
    Don't wireless keyboards and mice need a transceiver plugged into a USB port on the computer to work? So there's still a wire coming out of the computer then, right? (Not to mention needing to find a spot on a desk for the transceiver.)
  • Reply 15 of 23
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by G-News:

    <strong>"Why doesn't Apple go Cordless"



    because cordless mice and keyboards suck, that's why.



    G-News</strong><hr></blockquote>



    My cordless mouse doesn't suck at all.
  • Reply 16 of 23
    dfilerdfiler Posts: 3,420member
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>

    My cordless mouse doesn't suck at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Yeah-huhhh!



    Some anecdotal evidence:

    Ever cordless keyboard, mouse, and peripheral I've ever seen, has always ended up on a shelf or drawer after the novelty faded. They weren't mine so I can only offer conjecture as to why.



    There are three primary reasons why you might go wireless: asthetics, convenience, or more remote peripherals.



    Asthetics seems to be a valid justification, if it weren't for all the other crap on our desks any way. Good thing the wireless mouse got rid of a cord, now there's room for the charging cord.



    Convenience? Its kinda like a serial comedy each time I come across these wireless users. They're always searching for batteries or repositioning things. Also, the connection still seems to flake out on a regular basis. They'll go to move the mouse and nothing happens... oh you've got to click first.



    Increased range? somtimes. In my experience, my 15 foot USB extension has performed flawlessly. On the other hand, its fun to watch people hold their keyboards in the air inorder to get reception from their couch.



    A wireless mouse that recharged via solar cells or from the desk surface would be great. Right now, wireless peripherals are still gaget toys. Only when they're more convenient will wireless gadgets actually gain widespread acceptance.
  • Reply 17 of 23
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    I don't know dfiler, I've been using this mouse for about a year now and I turthfully haven't experienced any problems (of course except for when it needs new batteries).
  • Reply 18 of 23
    cyloncylon Posts: 126member
    Of course Dfiler is probably still using a tv without a remote. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 19 of 23
    overhopeoverhope Posts: 1,123member
    Hey, you guys never see a TV with a remote on a cord?
  • Reply 20 of 23
    cosmocosmo Posts: 662member
    I replaced my hockeypuck mouse with a logitech wireless mouse almost a year ago and i certainly haven't had any trouble with it. The battary issue is my only complaint, but i only have 2 change the battaries once every two months or so, so its really no t a big deal. This mouse is way smoother than my old mouse (due to it being optical) and the 2 button+ scroll wheel combination is something i dont think i could live without.



    Back to the topic at hand: i highly doubt apple will ever go wireless, but if you want to buy third party wireless devices i woudl have to say that they are not just novilty items, but actually funtional periferals.
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