I just can't wait until all websites start using standards. I'm as pro mac as they get, but it's sad that I have to think about buying a super cheap-o pc (cheaper than vpc and xp) just to use a few websites that are critical (some online jobs applications, grad school applications, etc).
I've noticed several sites that used to work with Safari that, after the 10.3.7 update, now do not. Even eBay now has problems. Hoping the next update fixes these.
I use Safari for casual browsing, but when it comes to paying bills I use Firefox, or if I'm in a real rush I still use IE, just so I don't have to deal with the headache. That's a terrible situation. I think Safari is a little behind on flexibility right now when compared to Firefox, but as long as you aren't using IE, you are on the side of standards compliance (in my opinion). AKA the losing side Microsoft will own the internet. Give in.
Safari is a pain in the ass. How do all these Mac browsers not have a pull down address bar? Insanity.. only Firefox that I know of supports this in addition to AutoComplete.. unless I'm completely clueless here?
Firefox throws its fits too... there really isn't a perfect OS X broswer yet.. not like IE is for Windows anywhow. I hope that Firefox 1.1 addresses a lot of these problems.
Safari is a pain in the ass. How do all these Mac browsers not have a pull down address bar? Insanity.. only Firefox that I know of supports this in addition to AutoComplete.. unless I'm completely clueless here?
Firefox throws its fits too... there really isn't a perfect OS X broswer yet.. not like IE is for Windows anywhow. I hope that Firefox 1.1 addresses a lot of these problems.
If you believe that IE is the perfect browser for Windows, then I am afraid that we are just going to have to agree to disagree. With the number of Windows users who are abandoning IE or Firefox and other browsers, it would appear that fewer and fewer people agree with you.
Safari is a good browser, and it surely will survive. WIll it be the *best* browser? I don't know. But sure as hell it won't die, choke, get HIV, or otherwise be doomed.
I rarely, if ever, run into site compatibility problems these days in Safari.
Speed could be a little zippier, but that's coming.
Anyway, if Apple just fixes a couple of bugs (that ornery lack of undo in text fields, the rollover issue, etc), tries to manage animated gifs from sucking up too much CPU, and sprinkles over with the features advertised in Safari RSS, I'll be pleased as punch.
If you believe that IE is the perfect browser for Windows, then I am afraid that we are just going to have to agree to disagree. With the number of Windows users who are abandoning IE or Firefox and other browsers, it would appear that fewer and fewer people agree with you.
Oi.. ok, what FIREFOX is to Windows then. What IE ONCE WAS.. argh you people! Sorry, had to do a fresh install on the powerbook today. I'm pissed.
Safari will survive as long as Apple sees strategic value in developing their own browser. Considering Cyberdog, this does not necessarily have to be that long.
I, myself have dropped Safari in favor of FireFox, since FF allows you to install all those nifty extensions that make browsing (and for me, web development) so much more pleasant.
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Originally posted by burningwheel
it seems it doesn't work properly on some sites for me lately ie. getty images
also it seems like Firefox is just as quick if not quicker
well it's quite obvious that apple will be releasing a better safari as part of tiger. go ahead and use firefox if you want--nobody is gonna stop you.
Yes, I tried browser x...
I have a problem...
Originally posted by johnq
I have a problem...
Yes you have two in fact: you have IE, Netscape, Opera, and Shiira on the list, and you are missing OmniWeb.
Originally posted by Karl Kuehn
you are missing OmniWeb.
Originally posted by Karl Kuehn
Yes you have two in fact: you have IE, Netscape, Opera, and Shiira on the list, and you are missing OmniWeb.
What do you call the sixth browser down the list?
Originally posted by hmurchison
Horrible title. I'd suggest being a bit more forthright about what subject matter your post really entails.
jeez, 2 semi-hostile replies. what purpose did it serve? moderator!
Originally posted by Mr. Me
What do you call the sixth browser down the list?
My bad... just missed it.
Firefox throws its fits too... there really isn't a perfect OS X broswer yet.. not like IE is for Windows anywhow. I hope that Firefox 1.1 addresses a lot of these problems.
Originally posted by lewd0006
Safari is a pain in the ass. How do all these Mac browsers not have a pull down address bar? Insanity.. only Firefox that I know of supports this in addition to AutoComplete.. unless I'm completely clueless here?
Firefox throws its fits too... there really isn't a perfect OS X broswer yet.. not like IE is for Windows anywhow. I hope that Firefox 1.1 addresses a lot of these problems.
If you believe that IE is the perfect browser for Windows, then I am afraid that we are just going to have to agree to disagree. With the number of Windows users who are abandoning IE or Firefox and other browsers, it would appear that fewer and fewer people agree with you.
Originally posted by burningwheel
Their point is that Safari's failings are not signs of doom any more than any other browser's failings are.
Ever hear of updates?
So why the "doomed/survive" angle?
Why not "Is Safari due for a major update?" or "Will Apple Address Safari Bugs?"
"Is safari Doomed?" implies "Dave Hyatt Quits Apple, Joins Google"
Originally posted by burningwheel
it seems it doesn't work properly on some sites for me lately ie. getty images
also it seems like Firefox is just as quick if not quicker
Sorry i didn't bother to read all posts,
but the title itself implies pure
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Speed could be a little zippier, but that's coming.
Anyway, if Apple just fixes a couple of bugs (that ornery lack of undo in text fields, the rollover issue, etc), tries to manage animated gifs from sucking up too much CPU, and sprinkles over with the features advertised in Safari RSS, I'll be pleased as punch.
Originally posted by Hobbes
that ornery lack of undo in text fields
God, yes.
Originally posted by Mr. Me
If you believe that IE is the perfect browser for Windows, then I am afraid that we are just going to have to agree to disagree. With the number of Windows users who are abandoning IE or Firefox and other browsers, it would appear that fewer and fewer people agree with you.
Oi.. ok, what FIREFOX is to Windows then. What IE ONCE WAS.. argh you people!
I, myself have dropped Safari in favor of FireFox, since FF allows you to install all those nifty extensions that make browsing (and for me, web development) so much more pleasant.