Current Powermac owners/users, tell me about your future Powermac expectations
I'm interested in hearing from current owners/users* of Powermacs about their needs in the post 1/7/02 Powermacs.
SdC
* (footnote) - I expect this will exclude a lot of you (which is half the point) to exclude the faction of posters who says that Apple needs this or that, but don't actually own/use one. I maintain that people who say the Powermacs are slow don't own/use Powermacs.
SdC
* (footnote) - I expect this will exclude a lot of you (which is half the point) to exclude the faction of posters who says that Apple needs this or that, but don't actually own/use one. I maintain that people who say the Powermacs are slow don't own/use Powermacs.
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Anything lower than this is totally unacceptable since those cheap PCs out there already have more raw speed that those so-called "Professional" Macs
The only new mac I'd consider is >1ghz G4. But I'd probably struggle on until G5>1.4 And it would have to be at the low price because I really cant afford anything else.
I also hate iMacs
bye.
I'd like to see better expandability in the towers. They're pretty bad right now...one drive bay, 2 USB and FireWire, 1.5GB PC133...
I'd don't care as much with clock speed as I do good video cards and expandability. I'd much rather have an 867MHz G4 with a GF3 Ti500 than a 1.4GHz G5 with a Rage 128.
The big thing that I have my fingers x-ed for is an announcement by Elsa. A rumor went around a while back that they'd be announcing a workstation class card for the Mac.
I use LightWave in OSX and do video. I want some big guns to come out from Apple.
With FCP3 allowing for RTEffects on a TiBook 667, even the low end iMac G4 would be a seriously improved machine.
I'm less worried about the MHZ as I am about the rest of the archtecture. A dual 1 GHZ G4 would be outstanding.
Now way in hell is Jobs giving up on the "boutique" strategy. Count on it.
I also plan to take the OS X plunge as soon as Quark, and Photoshop run in it natively.
I hope to purchase either a 1.2 Ghz G4 or a 1Ghz dualie. (And a 22"plus Cinema Display.) I need a Superdrive, and expandability. I'm a computer audio hobbyist as well and that will eat up PCI slots. (4 at a minimum.)
Apple should ALWAYS have a cpu/monitor bundle deal going. ALWAYS!
MSKR
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Masker ]</p>
<strong>If we see a proliferation of the G4 across the iMac line, then I'll be happy. Altivec enabled software is really fast, and if there is a larger user base then more software will cater to that feature.
With FCP3 allowing for RTEffects on a TiBook 667, even the low end iMac G4 would be a seriously improved machine.
I'm less worried about the MHZ as I am about the rest of the archtecture. A dual 1 GHZ G4 would be outstanding.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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-Paul
I want something great from apple. Insanely Great! Either G5s, or G4s with some kick ass performance. I remember reading perf. tests by some sites, where a 733mhz G4 wasn't much faster than a 533mhz (i may be wrong) at some tasks ... and apple said it was because it was a new processor, and software needed to be optimized for it. Ok, I'm all for altivec, it seems to make things a lot faster ... but if you have to recompile just for a chip upgrade ... c'mon! We need some new architecture, faster stuffs across the board (bus, memory, cpu) and then i'll part with my hard earned credit .
Dual GHz G4s would be nice and fast i'm sure, especially for me .. (I've played with dual 800s at chumpusa and it seems plenty fast)... but ... They'll probably be $3500, and out of my price range. Well, I *could* afford it, but I'd much rather get a cool mac for $1000 and have money for other things.
Whatever happens, I hope for price breaks. But, we probably won't see that anytime soon ...
...since I'm using one of the original AGP G4/500's right now, and since said machine is more than fast enough to handle most current daily operations (Office X, IB/PB, web browsing, mp3 stuff, etc) I honestly don't need anything new yet. That is to say, I'm not doing much on the graphic end of things right now. Once I start up again in the spring, I have a feeling a new machine will be useful - especially if Adobe's new apps are sluggish on machines like mine.
My rule of thumb is to never buy a new machine that isn't at least twice as fast as the one I have, and at a lower price, even if only by $100. My feeling is that I won't buy another G4 unless it is a completely redesigned machine, case, mobo and all.
Spec-wise, I would want something on the order of :
1.4 GHz SP, or 1 GHz DP
A system bus that runs at at least 266MHz or whatever the DDR RAM runs at (I get all the numbers mixed up)
3 USB ports would be a plus (I don't want to use a Belkin USB hub, etc)
2 Gigawire ports would be fine
2 high-speed PCI slots
and AGP 4x at a minimum with the latest card
<strong>
My rule of thumb is to never buy a new machine that isn't at least twice as fast as the one I have, and at a lower price, even if only by $100. My feeling is that I won't buy another G4 unless it is a completely redesigned machine, case, mobo and all.
Spec-wise, I would want something on the order of :
1.4 GHz SP, or 1 GHz DP
A system bus that runs at at least 266MHz or whatever the DDR RAM runs at (I get all the numbers mixed up)
3 USB ports would be a plus (I don't want to use a Belkin USB hub, etc)
2 Gigawire ports would be fine
2 high-speed PCI slots
and AGP 4x at a minimum with the latest card</strong><hr></blockquote>
Moogs, that's EXACTLY what I was going to say.... well, not word for word, but point for point.
For me to buy a new system, Apple would have to up the ante quite a bit. I'm to cheap to buy anything but the low-end Powermac, so the low end would have to be at least:
1 GHz (G4 or G5)
Considerably faster bus (266 MHz?)
DDR RAM
8X AGP, with at least a GeForce 3
This is the minimum I'd buy. Anything less and I'd just wait, since my current Mac serves me fine for everything I actually NEED if for.
tell me about your powermac set-up.
SdC
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: suckfuldotcom ]</p>
"Moogs, that's EXACTLY what I was going to say.... well, not word for word, but point for point. "<hr></blockquote>
Yep. Basically I need more speed so that there is no sluggishness with any app's basic operations, compatibility with the current and next generation of Firewire devices, and one extra USB port.
Since the keyboard takes one by default, I think Apple ought to offer 3 ports and not 2. Most people are going to have a USB printer and either a scanner or maybe digital camera, and it's silly to design things in such a way that they have to switch back and forth between which ones are plugged in and which aren't. You should just be able to plug your two favorite USB peripherals in and leave them there.
Firewire is less of a concern because by default none of the stuff that ships with the computer uses them, and because they can easily be daisy chained, unlike USB.
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Moogs ? ]</p>
That's the first logical thing I've ever seen from you.
SdC