Well I have always thought that multiprocessors were the answer to the GHz Gap. The only way that I see the G4 as a viable option for the MWSF PowerMac line is to go dual and even quad at the "ultimate" ($3499) level.
With the G5 coming, anything less than the above will be met with a lot of holding back of purchase orders until the G5 ships.
To be fair, the article does not mention the processor for these "dualin'" iMacs (unless I missed something). Would the possibility exist for two low-MHz (say, 450) G4's finding their way into a fanless iMac?
No, I like that article. Its the only optimistic one I've read today. I wouldn't mind having dual 500Mhz G4's in an iMac. Not at all. Then again, I wouldn't mind a 1Ghz G4 either but still...
If it has a G3 another pin goes into my Steve Jobs voodoo doll though.
<strong>No, I like that article. Its the only optimistic one I've read today. I wouldn't mind having dual 500Mhz G4's in an iMac. Not at all. Then again, I wouldn't mind a 1Ghz G4 either but still...
If it has a G3 another pin goes into my Steve Jobs voodoo doll though.
That's funny...I came away with a feeling that the author was pretty anti-Mac for some reason. Nothing in particular I can point to, maybe I am just so biased towards the platform that anythign short of flat-out praise make me skeptical. Ah well.
Could somebody please tell me what's wrong with the iMac shipping with a fast G3 processor?
What do you want? A G4? Last I heard, the difference between the two processors was very little besides the fact the G4 has the AltiVec processing unit.
So unless your a graphics professional, using Photoshop, or Illustrator, you'd never really see the benefits of the G4.
If you were a graphics professional, you would most likely be buying a PowerMac G4 Tower anyway. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
<strong>Could somebody please tell me what's wrong with the iMac shipping with a fast G3 processor?
What do you want? A G4? Last I heard, the difference between the two processors was very little besides the fact the G4 has the AltiVec processing unit.
So unless your a graphics professional, using Photoshop, or Illustrator, you'd never really see the benefits of the G4.
If you were a graphics professional, you would most likely be buying a PowerMac G4 Tower anyway. </strong><hr></blockquote>
I've heard, but can't say for sure, that OSX is much slower on the G3 than it is on the G4.
So, if this is true and Apple wants OSX to become the default OS, it would obviously be better to put out machines with the G4.
<strong>the sahara is SMP-capable.</strong><hr></blockquote>Where did you find that? I haven't seen anything that says that.
I really, really hope they don't put duals in iMacs. What a joke. I use a dual 800 at work, and, well, I might as well have a single 800. Almost no one is helped much by a dual, from what I've seen of the benchmarks. It's fool's gold.
<strong>Where did you find that? I haven't seen anything that says that.
I really, really hope they don't put duals in iMacs. What a joke. I use a dual 800 at work, and, well, I might as well have a single 800. Almost no one is helped much by a dual, from what I've seen of the benchmarks. It's fool's gold.</strong><hr></blockquote>
This is untrue when running X from what I've read. X is multi-threaded (I hope) so it can tell the apps to use both processors as well as do background and secondary actions like opening otehr apps, QT, itunes etc. (not a techie so I hope I got it right)
Where did you find that the G3 (Sahara) is SMP capable, cause I believe it is not, it is based on the G3 architecture. G3's do not play well with other G3's.
from what i know.. making an lcd mac, with the cpu(s) and all built into the screen is quite hard because of heat. do-able, seen in the large (ugly) form that gateway has for its lcd all in one. i'm sure apple could make it look much better. the problem is, i doubt they could put 2 cpus (g3 or even the new, cooler, g4) into this thing. especially without a fan.
now if they were to go with the cheap cube/lcd alternate idea (as in, not an all in one) i'm sure it could be possible...
anyway, we shall see.
i'd also like to add that altivec is definitely reported to be very helpful with os X, and if os X is gonna be the default, either at SF or in march, altivec is gonna be needed in the new imac.
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With the G5 coming, anything less than the above will be met with a lot of holding back of purchase orders until the G5 ships.
Just can't come out with a new iMac at a clock speed slower than the model you are replacing.
Maybe Apple is getting good prices on G4's now.
Chip has been out for some 2 1/2 years almost.
If it has a G3 another pin goes into my Steve Jobs voodoo doll though.
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<strong>Let's see who can count all the errors in that article.</strong><hr></blockquote>
8?
<strong>No, I like that article. Its the only optimistic one I've read today. I wouldn't mind having dual 500Mhz G4's in an iMac. Not at all. Then again, I wouldn't mind a 1Ghz G4 either but still...
If it has a G3 another pin goes into my Steve Jobs voodoo doll though.
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: apple.otaku ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's funny...I came away with a feeling that the author was pretty anti-Mac for some reason. Nothing in particular I can point to, maybe I am just so biased towards the platform that anythign short of flat-out praise make me skeptical. Ah well.
What do you want? A G4? Last I heard, the difference between the two processors was very little besides the fact the G4 has the AltiVec processing unit.
So unless your a graphics professional, using Photoshop, or Illustrator, you'd never really see the benefits of the G4.
If you were a graphics professional, you would most likely be buying a PowerMac G4 Tower anyway. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
<strong>Could somebody please tell me what's wrong with the iMac shipping with a fast G3 processor?
What do you want? A G4? Last I heard, the difference between the two processors was very little besides the fact the G4 has the AltiVec processing unit.
So unless your a graphics professional, using Photoshop, or Illustrator, you'd never really see the benefits of the G4.
If you were a graphics professional, you would most likely be buying a PowerMac G4 Tower anyway.
I've heard, but can't say for sure, that OSX is much slower on the G3 than it is on the G4.
So, if this is true and Apple wants OSX to become the default OS, it would obviously be better to put out machines with the G4.
can you say "quartz display layer is optimized for SIMD" and "QuickDraw is not used in osx"?
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One of two things:
ibm pruposely left out this nugget at the microprocessor forum
or
its not capable of MP
That said, dual G3's would float my boat, and tide me over until the second generation of G5
This guy's pretty pessimistic about apple.
apparently none of those choices are correct
the sahara is SMP-capable.
<strong>the sahara is SMP-capable.</strong><hr></blockquote>Where did you find that? I haven't seen anything that says that.
I really, really hope they don't put duals in iMacs. What a joke. I use a dual 800 at work, and, well, I might as well have a single 800. Almost no one is helped much by a dual, from what I've seen of the benchmarks. It's fool's gold.
<strong>Where did you find that? I haven't seen anything that says that.
I really, really hope they don't put duals in iMacs. What a joke. I use a dual 800 at work, and, well, I might as well have a single 800. Almost no one is helped much by a dual, from what I've seen of the benchmarks. It's fool's gold.</strong><hr></blockquote>
This is untrue when running X from what I've read. X is multi-threaded (I hope) so it can tell the apps to use both processors as well as do background and secondary actions like opening otehr apps, QT, itunes etc. (not a techie so I hope I got it right)
now if they were to go with the cheap cube/lcd alternate idea (as in, not an all in one) i'm sure it could be possible...
anyway, we shall see.
i'd also like to add that altivec is definitely reported to be very helpful with os X, and if os X is gonna be the default, either at SF or in march, altivec is gonna be needed in the new imac.
here's the link
the cache coherency problems with earlier G3's had been resolved by the time of the 750cxe
credit where credit is due: comptown records
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