Mac OS X x86 leaked and cracked...

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in macOS edited January 2014
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I watched the videos, and it definitely looks legit. (Of course a lot of us were fooled by the spymac handheld videos)



For me, this seems like a great thing. It means that Apple is much more likely to feel pressured to license and/or directly sell to the general public for non-Mac hardware. Obviously, there would be a lot of details, such as what hardware is supported, which makes me feel like licensing is the much more likely of the two.



Even if Apple manages to squash this (which I doubt), it means it can be done. But what I really want to see is if this cracked version will install on some AMD hardware. I imagine that laptop must have the same chipset (or very similar) to either the shipping dev kits, or an upcoming Mactel laptop, otherwise kexts/drivers would cause a major problem.



This should be fun...
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  • Reply 1 of 27
    Wow.



    This definitely looks legit. This could cause some serious problems for Apple.



    I see it like this:



    On the one hand I would like to see OS X available to all PC users. This way it would be possible to custom build your own PC (as I've done for several years now) and then still be able to run the best operating system in the world (IMHO).



    On the other hand, Apple controlling its hardware market is a good thing, even if it does mean higher prices for us consumers. Compatibility and support are completely insured. Also, Apple is very unlikely to give up control of its hardware, even if it is a niche market.
  • Reply 2 of 27
    Quote:

    Originally posted by baranovich

    Also, Apple is very unlikely to give up control of its hardware, even if it is a niche market.



    You don't mean that...come back when you're not drunk and tell us what you really think.
  • Reply 3 of 27
    Pretty convincing. Cant say Ive ever seen a processor option in sys prefs. Is that unique to the Macintel builds?
  • Reply 4 of 27
    No, its an addon which is probably standard on the Dev systems.
  • Reply 5 of 27
    e1618978e1618978 Posts: 6,075member
    This will not be a problem for Apple - very few people will download a beta version of the operating system, and it will not be upgradable.



    This is more likely to help apple, by letting eager beaver slashdot readers try out OS X for free, so that their next machine will be an apple (and also the next machine for their family members that require support).
  • Reply 6 of 27
    Quote:

    Originally posted by e1618978

    This will not be a problem for Apple - very few people will download a beta version of the operating system, and it will not be upgradable.



    This is more likely to help apple, by letting eager beaver slashdot readers try out OS X for free, so that their next machine will be an apple (and also the next machine for their family members that require support).




    Precisely, and this is a sentiment that Dvorak has been touting for some time.
  • Reply 7 of 27
    Quote:

    Originally posted by e1618978

    ...very few people will download a beta version of the operating system, and it will not be upgradable.



    This really isn't the issue, it's that if the beta can be cracked to install on something other than the Apple Dev Macs, it's _highly_ likely that the final shipping version will also be cracked. (And really, what CAN'T be cracked these days?)



    Quote:

    Originally posted by e1618978

    This is more likely to help apple, by letting eager beaver slashdot readers try out OS X for free, so that their next machine will be an apple (and also the next machine for their family members that require support).



    I completely agree with this...I think Apple would be crazy not to at least try to embrace "the other 95%" now that they're taking the wraps off Marklar. Even if it isn't sold, condoned, or supported on anything other than official Apple Macintosh computers, trying to quash the underground nerd-base interest would be crazy.
  • Reply 8 of 27
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by concentricity

    This really isn't the issue, it's that if the beta can be cracked to install on something other than the Apple Dev Macs, it's _highly_ likely that the final shipping version will also be cracked. (And really, what CAN'T be cracked these days?)



    Does it really matter? The small number that will have the knowledge and ability to crack it will do so but the vast majority still need to purchase from Apple. The fraction that hack it still end up boosting Apple's market figures and in theory supporting their developers. Apple really doesn't need or particularly want a perfect protection system they just want a system that is difficult enough to stop some 95+% or some rough % of the total.
  • Reply 9 of 27
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Yeah and they said people wouldn't figure out downloading music and software.



    I remember once Dvorak was on TechTv and laughed when someone said people would download movies. It was only two years ago two. Talk about out of touch. This time I think he's right though.
  • Reply 10 of 27
    bentonbenton Posts: 161member
    Justin Nolan at 360hacker.net will soon be receiving visitors. Word is Apple's legal assault specialists are tasked by SJ to out the perps and make them PAY.

    Shareholders are insisting TPM, registrations and DRM wrapup the new products so tight violators won't even be able to whisper windo
  • Reply 11 of 27
    1) yes it is cracked and it runs fine under VMware with some coaxing and patching. just dont expect sound or acelerated desktop (or networking for that matter).

    2) yes it works on SOME AMD athlon or duron boxes with some patching a coxing.

    3) doesnt support many network cards, sound cards, or video cards (Geforce 2 cars appear to work). Also I have yet to find a WLAN chip for the PC that works with it.

    4) Apple will never release a OS X for generic x86. Apple software only works if Apple controls the platform and limits driver support. Also Apple makes its money off of hardware sales, not software.

    5) Dont expect the real OS X for x86 to be this easy to crack. Apple doesnt care if this gets cracked. Your not going to get updates, your not going to get 10.5, and your not going to get any support.

    They get some excitement and can still latter force you to buy their hardware.

    6) Dont trust anything you read on engadget, slashdot, macslash, etc. They dont know what they are talking about. They just report hearsay since I doubt most of them actualy take the time (several hours) to test it out themselves and see what works.
  • Reply 12 of 27
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    I for one can't wait to get my macs from Dell!
  • Reply 13 of 27
    brendonbrendon Posts: 642member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Benton

    Justin Nolan at 360hacker.net will soon be receiving visitors. Word is Apple's legal assault specialists are tasked by SJ to out the perps and make them PAY.

    Shareholders are insisting TPM, registrations and DRM wrapup the new products so tight violators won't even be able to whisper windo




    What I have noticed is that every sight that is reporting "how" to port OSX to generic x86-ware is still up and running no Apple legal has requested that we stop posting this. These are not rumor sights, incredable (more than one), this is how to hack OSX to x86-ware. I tend to believe some of Apple may want to run on generic x86-ware, simply because no orders from Apple legal. This is the crown jewel, the MacOS, and Apple legal is not heavy handed at all, in fact where are they?? Maybe Steve is taking to heart. all of those calls from PC vendors that would love for him to port OSX to x86, oops they did... What are the profits from software virsus hardware, especially if, like Apple, you have a team of hardware gurus that can help set specs so that the hardware can be integrated into the whole experience. Something foul is in the air... Apple legal should have been all over this, and squashed it totally.
  • Reply 14 of 27
    nofeernofeer Posts: 2,427member
    hey SJ is noooo dummy....he knew this would happen but hey if you know how people hack this developers stuff (weak anyway) they can give further protection, also it gets otherwise intel/windows people thinking of apple os, meaning less interest in windows stuff which is boring and old. it was probably designed to get this response, and all the publicity SJ is smart very smart
  • Reply 15 of 27
    bronxitebronxite Posts: 104member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Brendon

    What I have noticed is that every sight that is reporting "how" to port OSX to generic x86-ware is still up and running no Apple legal has requested that we stop posting this. These are not rumor sights, incredable (more than one), this is how to hack OSX to x86-ware. I tend to believe some of Apple may want to run on generic x86-ware, simply because no orders from Apple legal. This is the crown jewel, the MacOS, and Apple legal is not heavy handed at all, in fact where are they?? Maybe Steve is taking to heart. all of those calls from PC vendors that would love for him to port OSX to x86, oops they did... What are the profits from software virsus hardware, especially if, like Apple, you have a team of hardware gurus that can help set specs so that the hardware can be integrated into the whole experience. Something foul is in the air... Apple legal should have been all over this, and squashed it totally.



    what legal right do they have to stop someone posting instructions and not the files?
  • Reply 16 of 27
    Well you could say that by posting instructions they are inciting piracy.
  • Reply 17 of 27
    sunilramansunilraman Posts: 8,133member
    it's looking legit to me too... now if i can pull this off, there'll be mad props to the man in the icecream van
  • Reply 18 of 27
    sunilramansunilraman Posts: 8,133member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NOFEER

    hey SJ is noooo dummy....he knew this would happen but hey if you know how people hack this developers stuff (weak anyway) they can give further protection, also it gets otherwise intel/windows people thinking of apple os, meaning less interest in windows stuff which is boring and old. it was probably designed to get this response, and all the publicity SJ is smart very smart



    he is a dark lord of the sith and this is all part of his plan very smart indeed... fucking brilliant, what. can you imagine the interest this is going to generate for new macintels? *HUGE*
  • Reply 19 of 27
    Any news about AMD compatability with this leaked version??
  • Reply 20 of 27
    sunilramansunilraman Posts: 8,133member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by midgcool

    Any news about AMD compatability with this leaked version??



    AMD compatibility is go for launch according to the hardware compatibility list on: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/HCL
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