But what is the deal with the Finder anyway ? Really. Everyone and his dog is asking for eons to Fix The F*cking Finder (FTFF). Is it such a huge task ? I mean, Apple rewrites everything they have. And those are sometimes quite big, like FCP Studio. Why not the Finder ? Are they afraid of something ?
But what is the deal with the Finder anyway ? Really. Everyone and his dog is asking for eons to Fix The F*cking Finder (FTFF). Is it such a huge task ? I mean, Apple rewrites everything they have. And those are sometimes quite big, like FCP Studio. Why not the Finder ? Are they afraid of something ?
my guess is indecisiveness with regard to what they want to do with it. Either that or they are waiting until they develop the technologies that will be featured in the new finder before bothering to fix something they are only going to completely rebuild a year or so down the line.
It's pretty clear that the underlying logic of the current Finder is still the same code that was in Classic, although Carbonized to get it to run on Mac OS X. Example - Trash emptying takes 1000 times as long as it should, connecting to iDisk takes seconds instead of milliseconds considering the tiny amount of data it has to transfer, opening Applications folder takes 1-2 seconds or more because it reads it all off the disk instead of keeping a cached list in memory, etc. etc.
With all the sidebar and Spotlight and etc. added, it must be a real ball of spaghetti now. It will need a complete re-write and that fits in with the fact that we have not seen the Leopard Finder yet. As a separate application, they can just keep it hidden from the developers as long as they want and show it when they are ready.
I don't see how they could have tacked on any more cruft on this thing - I think they essentially had to do a ground-up rewrite to get rid of the Carbon kludges they put in there back before Carbon was mature enough to take advantage of Cocoa methods.
I don' think there's anything wrong with the Finder.
People(not to name names) can talk a lot of trash, but when they get down to the specifics of how to make it better, you can throw just as much criticism on their ideas as on the finder.
Just to top it off, it's easier said then done, and once you get your hands dirty, and the community rips it apart.
Whoever was trying to inflate their egos is going to drop to the dirt.
Apple has a problem with not just catering to the elitist that say, that expects it's the most natural thing in the world to have 10 mouse buttons, and command keys in 3 figures.
You have to balance a lot of things, including not relearning the Finder, just for the sake of some dreamer.
You can say the same about 3 button mouses. Just like I don't think I can live without it, I have to always techsupport with the phrase, "Try Right clicking".
We're slowly moving along, apple has more then enough problems intergrating spaces into the GUI-problem, Finder may or may not have a total revamp. Minor things here an there, and keep refining.
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<commence floodgates opening>
<prepares for "it ought to be Cocoa" posts>
<prepares for "it ought to be Cocoa" posts>
it ought to be Cocoa
FTP for starters.
That strange icon alignment bug
Responsiveness when opening folders. (Windows seems much faster)
meh. other stuff I learned to live with.
That strange icon alignment bug
If you mean what I think you mean, 10.4.7 fixed that.
Spotlight 2.0 should replace the Finder
Yes, we want to type in the name of whatever we want so that Spotlight can locate 187 files with similar content for us.
Yes, we want to type in the name of whatever we want so that Spotlight can locate 187 files with similar content for us.
Ah cool! So you already know what's Spotlight 2.0 all about then? Care to tell us?
If you mean what I think you mean, 10.4.7 fixed that.
Yeah, but you can still (accidentally) put two icons on top of each other.
Or is that a feature ?
It ought to be Java.
But what is the deal with the Finder anyway ? Really. Everyone and his dog is asking for eons to Fix The F*cking Finder (FTFF). Is it such a huge task ? I mean, Apple rewrites everything they have. And those are sometimes quite big, like FCP Studio. Why not the Finder ? Are they afraid of something ?
my guess is indecisiveness with regard to what they want to do with it. Either that or they are waiting until they develop the technologies that will be featured in the new finder before bothering to fix something they are only going to completely rebuild a year or so down the line.
With all the sidebar and Spotlight and etc. added, it must be a real ball of spaghetti now. It will need a complete re-write and that fits in with the fact that we have not seen the Leopard Finder yet. As a separate application, they can just keep it hidden from the developers as long as they want and show it when they are ready.
I don't see how they could have tacked on any more cruft on this thing - I think they essentially had to do a ground-up rewrite to get rid of the Carbon kludges they put in there back before Carbon was mature enough to take advantage of Cocoa methods.
i hear, well read, that a lot of people dont like the finder. whats wrong with the finder?
Doesn't come with enough internets.
People(not to name names) can talk a lot of trash, but when they get down to the specifics of how to make it better, you can throw just as much criticism on their ideas as on the finder.
Just to top it off, it's easier said then done, and once you get your hands dirty, and the community rips it apart.
Whoever was trying to inflate their egos is going to drop to the dirt.
Apple has a problem with not just catering to the elitist that say, that expects it's the most natural thing in the world to have 10 mouse buttons, and command keys in 3 figures.
You have to balance a lot of things, including not relearning the Finder, just for the sake of some dreamer.
You can say the same about 3 button mouses. Just like I don't think I can live without it, I have to always techsupport with the phrase, "Try Right clicking".
We're slowly moving along, apple has more then enough problems intergrating spaces into the GUI-problem, Finder may or may not have a total revamp. Minor things here an there, and keep refining.