Things I hate about my iPod

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in iPod + iTunes + AppleTV edited January 2014
What do we hate about our iPods?





One thing I hate about my Nano is that it's too hard to put it to sleep. A typical situation is that I update the iPod, eject it and upplug, then I want to put in my bag and head out the door. But the gd thing is on and I don't want to put it away on. So I hold down pause/play and wait and wait and wait. Damn thing wont sleep. I can't get it to sleep. I have to go as far as to play a song and then pause that and then hold down pause/pay to get it to sleep. Very annoying.



Anyone else?
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  • Reply 1 of 29
    So MucH HATE!!!!!!!!!!!HAHCACHKJAHKJAHAGHAHGHH!!!!!! FOCUS ON the PosITIVES!!!!! GRAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Pleurnicherie quittée, chienne ! ! ! ! Retirez votre doigt du bouton et de l'essai encore ! Si vous n'entendez aucun clic puis il pas ! BaH! I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!
  • Reply 2 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by details


    So MucH HATE!!!!!!!!!!!HAHCACHKJAHKJAHAGHAHGHH!!!!!! FOCUS ON the PosITIVES!!!!! GRAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Pleurnicherie quittée, chienne ! ! ! ! Retirez votre doigt du bouton et de l'essai encore ! Si vous n'entendez aucun clic puis il pas ! BaH! I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!



    chill.....

    out.....





    Personally, ( this is only based on trial experience, it would probably get better with time )

    I don't like the size of the scrollwheel on a nano. Whenever I use my friend's nano ( not very often ) it just feels awkward and I often have trouble landing on the selection I want. ( as I said, this would probably get easier with time, just like everything else )
  • Reply 3 of 29
    I've got my 8gb nano yesterday (my first ipod at all) and I think it was a good investment but it also has some design flaws, compared to my old mp3 player (sony nw e99).



    To few buttons: it's not possible to change the volume or to switch between random/normal-playback without using the menu.

    Battery cannot be removed: My old player had ~70 hours playback with 1 AAA Battery, which could easly be replaced, so battery-life has never been an issue, even with very old batteries.



    Software-wise the ipod are far ahead of the sony players but sony definately has better hardware engineers.
  • Reply 4 of 29
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,326moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NORTHERNLiGHTS


    To few buttons: it's not possible to change the volume or to switch between random/normal-playback without using the menu.



    Doesn't the scroll wheel change the volume while a song is playing?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NORTHERNLiGHTS


    Battery cannot be removed: My old player had ~70 hours playback with 1 AAA Battery, which could easly be replaced, so battery-life has never been an issue, even with very old batteries.



    When your battery dies in your ipod and you take it back to Apple, they give you a replacement for a fee. This fee is more than you'd pay for a battery but you get a whole new ipod:



    http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/service/battery/



    $65.95 is a lot of money but like I say, you get another ipod. This is obviously better value for the more expensive ipods.
  • Reply 5 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin


    Doesn't the scroll wheel change the volume while a song is playing?



    Thanks for pointing that out, as I said, it's my first ipod



    And about the battery, I'm not talking about replacing the battery when it can't be recharged at all.

    I really liked the possibility to just drop another AAA-battery in the player when there was no way to recharge the player (camping, on train, on the ski-slopes etc), but I think I can live with 24h.
  • Reply 6 of 29
    I agree it would be nice to have the option of a replaceable battery, the same as the existing battery, but user-replaceable. I know it's a pretty small part of the market that spends a 3-4 days without electricity, but my 4G gave out after about 5 days evening use when I was trekking around Anapurna, and I didn't have the ability to charge it up every couple of days. Having a second battery would have made the machine a lot more useful. I used to have a dell notebook with a second battery, and it was great to be able to spend a full weekend on the road without worrying about charging it up, same thing with my old iRiver 1st gen.
  • Reply 7 of 29
    My complaints are probably all user-error and not the fault of the iPod, but they annoy me anyway:



    - In my attempt to fast-forward, I usually end up skipping to the next song.

    - My iPod Mini is blindingly bright in the car at night.

    - Scroll wheel doesn't work well if your hands are at all wet/sweaty/greasydirty/whatever.



    eh... I'm pretty much grasping here. I don't really have that many substantial complaints.
  • Reply 8 of 29
    For extending the battery life have you tried something like the Belkin Battery Backup for iPod. I don't know if it works with all iPods or not. Just thought I'd point it out.
  • Reply 9 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MoonShadow


    - In my attempt to fast-forward, I usually end up skipping to the next song.



    Exactly, is there really no other way then the 20s steps?
  • Reply 10 of 29
    joeyjoey Posts: 236member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NORTHERNLiGHTS


    Exactly, is there really no other way then the 20s steps?





    Click the "Select" botton while you're playing a song... your progress indicator will turn into a little diamond. Now, when you use the scroll wheel, you can move forward or backward in the current track. When you're done, it will return to functioning as the volume control.
  • Reply 11 of 29
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin


    Doesn't the scroll wheel change the volume while a song is playing?



    Yes and no.



    If a song is playing, but while it's playing you go into the menu system to, say, look at your calendar or play a game or change your backlight setting... whatever... the scroll wheel no longer controls the volume any more, it controls menu scrolling.



    If your music suddenly gets too loud while you're off in a menu, the only thing you can do apart from pull out your earbuds is wait it out for 11 seconds until the iPod decides to let the scroll wheel be the volume control again.



    While I understand the appeal of the very minimalist set of controls on the iPod, I'd much prefer to have a separate, indepedent volume control which is never anything other than a volume control. I think the addition of a couple of cell-phone-like soft keys would help too, to provide a quick means to exit the menu system, turn shuffle play on and off, etc.
  • Reply 12 of 29
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    How does this roughly-sketched out idea look?







    The two soft keys would be tactile click buttons, the volume strip would be a touch sensitive area to drag your finger over to control the iPod's volume. Perhaps pressing the volume strip for a couple of seconds, or a quick double tap, could perform a Mute function.



    These aren't my most thoroughly thought-out soft key assignments for music-playing mode, just suggestions. I'm pretty sure I'd want a shuffle button that would cycle through off/song/album modes (it would be interesting to figure out the best graphic representations for those ideas to use in a tiny area of screen real estate), but the second button could be a repeat control instead of a short cut to the On The Go playlist, or perhaps some other function.



    While in the menu system, one button could be an Exit key, to either take you to the top of the menu system, or back to music/video playing mode. As I think about, I often only feel one button short of the amount of control I'd like to have, but if one was going to modify the iPod design in the first place, might as well stick with a familiar paradigm, like the nearly-standard pair of cell phone soft keys. I think the playability of many games could be greatly improved with a couple of extra buttons available.
  • Reply 13 of 29
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    Other iPod changes I'd like to see...
    • User options for changing what's displayed when a song is playing, like being able to have Grouping showing (nice for Classical music), and some display you could go to to see full song info, like comments, year, lyrics if they're there, etc.

    • An album cover browsing mode -- nothing as fancy as Cover Flow, but at least something where you could see thumbnails of album art as you browsed around.

    • Seperate backlight timer settings for battery vs. externally powered use. When I use my iPod in my car,, running off car power, I don't ever want the backlight to go out. For battery-powered use, I want a time out to preserve my batteries. I don't want to have to manually change that timeout setting as I move my iPod around.

    • The iPod should honor the same individual playlist-by-playlist shuffle settings that iTunes uses and recognizes.

    • A brushed metal finish to hide fingerprints better.

  • Reply 14 of 29
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mydo


    One thing I hate about my Nano is that it's too hard to put it to sleep. A typical situation is that I update the iPod, eject it and upplug, then I want to put in my bag and head out the door. But the gd thing is on and I don't want to put it away on. So I hold down pause/play and wait and wait and wait. Damn thing wont sleep.



    I dislike it when people think that all instances of a device work like theirs and go around bad-mouthing it, rather than realising that actually, there is something wrong with their individual device.



    Now, I don't want you to think I don't think it sucks that your iPod isn't behaving itself. It does suck. But this behaviour is not inherent in the design of the iPod. It shouldn't require those steps to put it to sleep. Have you tried resetting it?
  • Reply 15 of 29
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shetline


    Other iPod changes I'd like to see...
    • User options for changing what's displayed when a song is playing, like being able to have Grouping showing (nice for Classical music), and some display you could go to to see full song info, like comments, year, lyrics if they're there, etc.

    • An album cover browsing mode -- nothing as fancy as Cover Flow, but at least something where you could see thumbnails of album art as you browsed around.

    • Seperate backlight timer settings for battery vs. externally powered use. When I use my iPod in my car,, running off car power, I don't ever want the backlight to go out. For battery-powered use, I want a time out to preserve my batteries. I don't want to have to manually change that timeout setting as I move my iPod around.

    • A brushed metal finish to hide fingerprints better.




    I like all of these ideas.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shetline
    • The iPod should honor the same individual playlist-by-playlist shuffle settings that iTunes uses and recognizes.




    This one can be worked-around quite easily. In iTunes, make sure the shuffled playlist is ordered by the "play order" column (the first column on the left). The songs will then appear in that order on the iPod.
  • Reply 16 of 29
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr. H


    This one can be worked-around quite easily. In iTunes, make sure the shuffled playlist is ordered by the "play order" column (the first column on the left). The songs will then appear in that order on the iPod.



    Would that leave you stuck with the same "random" play order last choosen by iTunes, until both iTunes reshuffles (typically only after playing through a list once, of if you toggle shuffle play off and on again) AND you sync your iPod again after that shuffing?
  • Reply 17 of 29
    mr. hmr. h Posts: 4,870member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shetline


    Would that leave you stuck with the same "random" play order last choosen by iTunes



    Yes, it does. So, it's not perfect for everyone, but better than nothing.
  • Reply 18 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shetline


    How does this roughly-sketched out idea look?







    The two soft keys would be tactile click buttons, the volume strip would be a touch sensitive area to drag your finger over to control the iPod's volume. Perhaps pressing the volume strip for a couple of seconds, or a quick double tap, could perform a Mute function.



    These aren't my most thoroughly thought-out soft key assignments for music-playing mode, just suggestions. I'm pretty sure I'd want a shuffle button that would cycle through off/song/album modes (it would be interesting to figure out the best graphic representations for those ideas to use in a tiny area of screen real estate), but the second button could be a repeat control instead of a short cut to the On The Go playlist, or perhaps some other function.



    While in the menu system, one button could be an Exit key, to either take you to the top of the menu system, or back to music/video playing mode. As I think about, I often only feel one button short of the amount of control I'd like to have, but if one was going to modify the iPod design in the first place, might as well stick with a familiar paradigm, like the nearly-standard pair of cell phone soft keys. I think the playability of many games could be greatly improved with a couple of extra buttons available.



    Why?? You control the volume with the scroll wheel, first of all. Second, the iPod has five buttons. That's what you get. I don't think it will change anytime soon; extra buttons are no-no when it comes to the minimalist look Apple goes for. I dunno. It doesn't really take all that much time for me to hit menu a couple of times and turn on shuffle... I just don't see the benefit to the extra buttons.
  • Reply 19 of 29
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mydo


    What do we hate about our iPods?





    One thing I hate about my Nano is that it's too hard to put it to sleep. A typical situation is that I update the iPod, eject it and upplug, then I want to put in my bag and head out the door. But the gd thing is on and I don't want to put it away on. So I hold down pause/play and wait and wait and wait. Damn thing wont sleep. I can't get it to sleep. I have to go as far as to play a song and then pause that and then hold down pause/pay to get it to sleep. Very annoying.



    Anyone else?



    In settings, you can choose to have "sleep" a main menu item.
  • Reply 20 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by flinch13


    Why?? You control the volume with the scroll wheel, first of all. Second, the iPod has five buttons. That's what you get. I don't think it will change anytime soon; extra buttons are no-no when it comes to the minimalist look Apple goes for. I dunno. It doesn't really take all that much time for me to hit menu a couple of times and turn on shuffle... I just don't see the benefit to the extra buttons.



    a volume rocker on the left side would be benficial. and apple could make it so unnoticible and sleek, that nobody would notice it till they needed to use it.
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