<strong>You can't because when you put the computer to sleep you are also disconnecting from the network, IIRC. Therefore, your AIM connection is dropped.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, in that case when the computer is power is plugged in is there anyway to prevent it from sleeping. And/or is that too unhealthy for the computer.
It's not really bad, no. I leave my computer running full-throttle 24/7. It just uses a lot more electricity that way.
Actually, I've read that excessive spinning up of the hard drive (like when it spins up after being asleep) can really shorten its life span. Your mileage may vary, of course.
To change the settings for sleep, open your System Preferences and click Energy Saver.
<strong>It's not really bad, no. I leave my computer running full-throttle 24/7. It just uses a lot more electricity that way.
Actually, I've read that excessing spinning up of the hard drve (like after being asleep) can really shorten its life span.
To change the settings for sleep, open your System Preferences and click Energy Saver.</strong><hr></blockquote>
careful...
he has a PB...I dont think there is a way to PREVENT the computer from going to sleep automatically when you close it and i believe this could be harmful to it...
<strong>Sorry, I have more questions, very new to this. Can I allow the display to sleep without losing my programs (eg AIM)?
Also if I disable sleep can I close the screen without losing anything?
Sorry and thanks again.
Cheers,
Dan</strong><hr></blockquote>
you dont **lose** anything other then your connection to the internet... your apps should still be there along with any information in them... unless of course that information is dependent on an internet connection...
[quote]Originally posted by Proud iBook Owner 2k2:
<strong>sorry for laughing but when u put ANY computer to sleep all the programs close..... the comp basically shuts down... but not entirely..</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wouldn't say this is an entirely accurate way of representing it. They programs don't "close." That would suggest they relaunch when you wake your computer up.
By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but Windows computers don't lose their network connection when they're asleep, do they? This has always been a minor pet peeve of mine with the Mac.
my roommate goes offline as well whet he closes his computer, although it doesnt happen as instantaneous as on the mac, but i'll just chalk that up to superior sleep detection on my PB
You can set a different amount of time for display sleep and computer sleep. You can set the display sleep to whatever amount of time and set the machine sleep to never. With the PowerBook, however, whenever you close the screen the computer will go to sleep.
You cannot remain connected to iChat while your computer is asleep for the same reason that you cannot stay connected while your computer is shut down. Asleep and shut down are basically the same conditions for a computer. The only difference is a sleeping computer stores its RAM on disk so it can pick up where it left off when it is woken rather than having to reload the operating system.
A TCP/IP connection requires both computers to be active and receiving data. Your computer cannot receive data when it is asleep or shut down. AIM couldd allow you to be viewed as online even with no active TCP/IP connection but then the AIM servers would have to store all messages to you until you reconnect. This would also create a situation of everybody is always online. Maybe this would be good, maybe it would be bad. rather than having three states of available, away, and offline there would be only available and away.
Though I guess the AIM service could atleast let you have an away message while you were disconnected.
<strong>You can set a different amount of time for display sleep and computer sleep. You can set the display sleep to whatever amount of time and set the machine sleep to never. With the PowerBook, however, whenever you close the screen the computer will go to sleep.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yup. Some of the heat dissipation in a PowerBook is done through the keyboard.
[quote]<strong>You cannot remain connected to iChat while your computer is asleep for the same reason that you cannot stay connected while your computer is shut down. Asleep and shut down are basically the same conditions for a computer. The only difference is a sleeping computer stores its RAM on disk so it can pick up where it left off when it is woken rather than having to reload the operating system.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not quite. The RAM is fed a small amount of current to keep it refreshed. It is *not* stored on disk during sleep. (That is what Windows 'hibernate' mode does, so that you can completely cut off the electricity to the machine and have it come back up faster... in theory.)
[quote]<strong>Though I guess the AIM service could atleast let you have an away message while you were disconnected.
I like the way you can find newfriends/nutters on community chats with AIM, but I can't find this feature with iChat. This would be the one feature which would put AIM in the Trash.
Keep in mind ... there is a difference between DISPLAY SLEEP and CPU SLEEP ...
If only the display is sleeping, then the computer will still be running and online in the background.
However, if the CPU is asleep, there is NO WAY that AIM would still be collecting messages... if it is, then the CPU is NOT ASLEEP.
If you really want your iBook or pBook to stay up all the time, just have it set for the display to go to sleep, but not the system... also check the box to allow the Hard Disk to sleep... that will make it much quieter and cooler. (just don;t close the lid all the way unless you want it to "Really" go to sleep.
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<strong>Is it possible to let the computer go to sleep w/o automatically shutting down AIM or iChat. This is my first mac sorry.
BTW i have a powerbook G4 w/ OS X v 10.2.3
Cheers,
Dan</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
sorry for laughing but when u put ANY computer to sleep all the programs close..... the comp basically shuts down... but not entirely..
<strong>You can't because when you put the computer to sleep you are also disconnecting from the network, IIRC. Therefore, your AIM connection is dropped.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks brad. ^_^
Thanks again,
Dan
Actually, I've read that excessive spinning up of the hard drive (like when it spins up after being asleep) can really shorten its life span. Your mileage may vary, of course.
To change the settings for sleep, open your System Preferences and click Energy Saver.
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<strong>It's not really bad, no. I leave my computer running full-throttle 24/7. It just uses a lot more electricity that way.
Actually, I've read that excessing spinning up of the hard drve (like after being asleep) can really shorten its life span.
To change the settings for sleep, open your System Preferences and click Energy Saver.</strong><hr></blockquote>
careful...
he has a PB...I dont think there is a way to PREVENT the computer from going to sleep automatically when you close it and i believe this could be harmful to it...
Also if I disable sleep can I close the screen without losing anything?
Sorry and thanks again.
Cheers,
Dan
<strong>Sorry, I have more questions, very new to this. Can I allow the display to sleep without losing my programs (eg AIM)?
Also if I disable sleep can I close the screen without losing anything?
Sorry and thanks again.
Cheers,
Dan</strong><hr></blockquote>
you dont **lose** anything other then your connection to the internet... your apps should still be there along with any information in them... unless of course that information is dependent on an internet connection...
<strong>sorry for laughing but when u put ANY computer to sleep all the programs close..... the comp basically shuts down... but not entirely..</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wouldn't say this is an entirely accurate way of representing it. They programs don't "close." That would suggest they relaunch when you wake your computer up.
By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but Windows computers don't lose their network connection when they're asleep, do they? This has always been a minor pet peeve of mine with the Mac.
You cannot remain connected to iChat while your computer is asleep for the same reason that you cannot stay connected while your computer is shut down. Asleep and shut down are basically the same conditions for a computer. The only difference is a sleeping computer stores its RAM on disk so it can pick up where it left off when it is woken rather than having to reload the operating system.
A TCP/IP connection requires both computers to be active and receiving data. Your computer cannot receive data when it is asleep or shut down. AIM couldd allow you to be viewed as online even with no active TCP/IP connection but then the AIM servers would have to store all messages to you until you reconnect. This would also create a situation of everybody is always online. Maybe this would be good, maybe it would be bad. rather than having three states of available, away, and offline there would be only available and away.
Though I guess the AIM service could atleast let you have an away message while you were disconnected.
-Chris
<strong>You can set a different amount of time for display sleep and computer sleep. You can set the display sleep to whatever amount of time and set the machine sleep to never. With the PowerBook, however, whenever you close the screen the computer will go to sleep.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yup. Some of the heat dissipation in a PowerBook is done through the keyboard.
[quote]<strong>You cannot remain connected to iChat while your computer is asleep for the same reason that you cannot stay connected while your computer is shut down. Asleep and shut down are basically the same conditions for a computer. The only difference is a sleeping computer stores its RAM on disk so it can pick up where it left off when it is woken rather than having to reload the operating system.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not quite. The RAM is fed a small amount of current to keep it refreshed. It is *not* stored on disk during sleep. (That is what Windows 'hibernate' mode does, so that you can completely cut off the electricity to the machine and have it come back up faster... in theory.)
[quote]<strong>Though I guess the AIM service could atleast let you have an away message while you were disconnected.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
They do. It's called 'Unavailable.'
Anyone else have this experience?
I like the way you can find newfriends/nutters on community chats with AIM, but I can't find this feature with iChat. This would be the one feature which would put AIM in the Trash.
Anyone help? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
If only the display is sleeping, then the computer will still be running and online in the background.
However, if the CPU is asleep, there is NO WAY that AIM would still be collecting messages... if it is, then the CPU is NOT ASLEEP.
If you really want your iBook or pBook to stay up all the time, just have it set for the display to go to sleep, but not the system... also check the box to allow the Hard Disk to sleep... that will make it much quieter and cooler. (just don;t close the lid all the way unless you want it to "Really" go to sleep.