I am not sure how you missed the part where having extra space makes it possible to add higher quality audio, the HiDef formats aren't just about video.
True, but it is easier for a person to see a difference rather than hear it. Audiophiles have been tested with 256kbps MP3 compared to CDs and couldn't tell a difference, so how would your average joe compare (hell, they are happy with 128kpbs MP3s...). Plus, how many people have full 7.1 systems in their house (of good quality, not surround in a box)? It has got to be way less than the number of HDTV owners (hell, i'm happy with my 2.1 setup and HDTV).
To me, HD DVD and Blu-Ray is about video quality. All the in store displays are about video quality as well (comparing the footage to DVD). That is what will win people over. Until a movies video quality suffers because of the space on an HD DVD, i'm happy with my purchase.
Haahahahaa. Ya see, I can laugh at that half baked, butcher job in Photoshop. Seems to me someones taking this a bit to seriously and personally...Corey and Fisheyesque. Time to lighten up guys...next thing ya know you'll be asking for cranberry juices in the bar.
Haahahahaa. Ya see, I can laugh at that half baked, butcher job in Photoshop. Seems to me someones taking this a bit to seriously and personally...Corey and Fisheyesque. Time to lighten up guys...next thing ya know you'll be asking for cranberry juices in the bar.
Haha awww, so I can't have fun too? And I was in a rush, at work, and only had MS paint to work with. Sue me.
Marz, you're sucking all of the happy out of this thread Come on, now.
I'm not the one interjecting words like "douche" and "shut up"...c'mon now.
I can't help the fact some of those are minus a funny bone and choosing to take the actually quite funny demotivator calendar posters and internalize them as if a comment on a format was a strike on one of their loved ones.
Like I said, time to detach your person from the format, it's a freakin format, jeebus.
Titles released on both formats (Warner titles) don't make use of the extra space and bandwidth.
Considering they already look perfect, do you think there'd really be a perceivable improvement in picture quality if they did? I would guess anything over 25GB is past the point of diminishing return, and that the extra space is better used for extras.
I remember seeing a study back in the hey-day of CRTs...
When given the choice between a big TV and a high-res TV, consumers always chose the big TV. Apparently, picture quality isn't paramount. Although I suppose there is probably a size threshold past which people begin opting for quality.
I remember seeing a study back in the hey-day of CRTs...
When given the choice between a big TV and a high-res TV, consumers always chose the big TV. Apparently, picture quality isn't paramount. Although I suppose there is probably a size threshold past which people begin opting for quality.
My guess is that size threshold depends upon viewing distance.
In the playstation forum, a guess posed the question "Would you rather have a 15" HDTV or a 51" SDTV?". To me it would be pointless to have a HDTV so small, there would be no benefit in the HD department and DAMN that is small. I guess I am in the boat of larger. If the sizes were 36" and 51", I would choose the 36" in HD.
Anyways, back on topic, anyone get Superbad on Blu-Ray? Any good extras? I was very disappointed to find out that Halloween is going neither format right now...not impressed.
I remember seeing a study back in the hey-day of CRTs...
When given the choice between a big TV and a high-res TV, consumers always chose the big TV. Apparently, picture quality isn't paramount. Although I suppose there is probably a size threshold past which people begin opting for quality.
When losers are arrogant, they need informing in every possible way.
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I can't help the fact some of those are minus a funny bone and choosing to take the actually quite funny demotivator calendar posters and internalize them as if a comment on a format was a strike on one of their loved ones.
It seems your business associate Walter is also having difficulty distinguishing between a format and the people who use it.
I remember seeing a study back in the hey-day of CRTs...
When given the choice between a big TV and a high-res TV, consumers always chose the big TV. Apparently, picture quality isn't paramount. Although I suppose there is probably a size threshold past which people begin opting for quality.
Yes--when the TV occupies your entire FOV, then you'll probably be more interested in resolution.
Joe Public neither has the bandwidth nor the desire to buy his movies on the internets and cobble together some means of viewing and storing them. There's no strong solution for doing so at this point, nor do I foresee there being one in the next couple of years. xBox only rents films, the selection is sparse, and it takes a fortnight to download a single film. Apple TV lets you buy movies and access them easily, so long as you're in to VHS-quality entertainment, but you still wait longer than a trip to the store to view it.
When Joe can walk into a store and be told they've got a player that'll play all formats for an affordable price, HDM media will really take off. Combo players will become affordable long before there's a usable means of buying high-definition movies online and keeping them.
Cory I actually agree with you on something-- well only for the first paragraph.
I'm still not sure that a low cost universal player will save HDM. HDM prices will have to drop considerably to attract Joe and HDTV prices also will have to drop some more, say $800 for a respected name brand 40" LCD or 42" Plasma. I had hoped to see more of a HDTV price drop for this Christmas.
Considering they already look perfect, do you think there'd really be a perceivable improvement in picture quality if they did?
They don't always look perfect. Happy Feet has major banding issues, others have other artifacts, and when the movie is too long Warner gives us down to 448k DD - the same as good old DVD.
Wouldn't it be better and more consistent if all movies had the same lossless audio and high bitrate video?
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I am not sure how you missed the part where having extra space makes it possible to add higher quality audio, the HiDef formats aren't just about video.
True, but it is easier for a person to see a difference rather than hear it. Audiophiles have been tested with 256kbps MP3 compared to CDs and couldn't tell a difference, so how would your average joe compare (hell, they are happy with 128kpbs MP3s...). Plus, how many people have full 7.1 systems in their house (of good quality, not surround in a box)? It has got to be way less than the number of HDTV owners (hell, i'm happy with my 2.1 setup and HDTV).
To me, HD DVD and Blu-Ray is about video quality. All the in store displays are about video quality as well (comparing the footage to DVD). That is what will win people over. Until a movies video quality suffers because of the space on an HD DVD, i'm happy with my purchase.
HD DVD in a nutshell...
...a little humor for your Thursday.
...a little humor for your Thursday.
Marz, there's a difference between humor and just being mean-spirited. Guess which one rubbing it in the face of the loser falls under?
Haahahahaa. Ya see, I can laugh at that half baked, butcher job in Photoshop. Seems to me someones taking this a bit to seriously and personally...Corey and Fisheyesque. Time to lighten up guys...next thing ya know you'll be asking for cranberry juices in the bar.
Haahahahaa. Ya see, I can laugh at that half baked, butcher job in Photoshop. Seems to me someones taking this a bit to seriously and personally...Corey and Fisheyesque. Time to lighten up guys...next thing ya know you'll be asking for cranberry juices in the bar.
Haha awww, so I can't have fun too? And I was in a rush, at work, and only had MS paint to work with. Sue me.
Marz, you're sucking all of the happy out of this thread
I'm not the one interjecting words like "douche" and "shut up"...c'mon now.
I can't help the fact some of those are minus a funny bone and choosing to take the actually quite funny demotivator calendar posters and internalize them as if a comment on a format was a strike on one of their loved ones.
Like I said, time to detach your person from the format, it's a freakin format, jeebus.
You say Blu's extra 25GB allows for higher quality, and yet every title released thus far on both formats has been visually identical.
Titles released on both formats (Warner titles) don't make use of the extra space and bandwidth.
Titles released on both formats (Warner titles) don't make use of the extra space and bandwidth.
Considering they already look perfect, do you think there'd really be a perceivable improvement in picture quality if they did? I would guess anything over 25GB is past the point of diminishing return, and that the extra space is better used for extras.
When given the choice between a big TV and a high-res TV, consumers always chose the big TV. Apparently, picture quality isn't paramount. Although I suppose there is probably a size threshold past which people begin opting for quality.
I remember seeing a study back in the hey-day of CRTs...
When given the choice between a big TV and a high-res TV, consumers always chose the big TV. Apparently, picture quality isn't paramount. Although I suppose there is probably a size threshold past which people begin opting for quality.
My guess is that size threshold depends upon viewing distance.
Anyways, back on topic, anyone get Superbad on Blu-Ray? Any good extras? I was very disappointed to find out that Halloween is going neither format right now...not impressed.
Marz, there's a difference between humor and just being mean-spirited. Guess which one rubbing it in the face of the loser falls under?
When losers are arrogant, they need informing in every possible way.
I remember seeing a study back in the hey-day of CRTs...
When given the choice between a big TV and a high-res TV, consumers always chose the big TV. Apparently, picture quality isn't paramount. Although I suppose there is probably a size threshold past which people begin opting for quality.
Viewing distance wins every time.
When losers are arrogant, they need informing in every possible way.
I can't help the fact some of those are minus a funny bone and choosing to take the actually quite funny demotivator calendar posters and internalize them as if a comment on a format was a strike on one of their loved ones.
It seems your business associate Walter is also having difficulty distinguishing between a format and the people who use it.
I remember seeing a study back in the hey-day of CRTs...
When given the choice between a big TV and a high-res TV, consumers always chose the big TV. Apparently, picture quality isn't paramount. Although I suppose there is probably a size threshold past which people begin opting for quality.
Yes--when the TV occupies your entire FOV, then you'll probably be more interested in resolution.
Joe Public neither has the bandwidth nor the desire to buy his movies on the internets and cobble together some means of viewing and storing them. There's no strong solution for doing so at this point, nor do I foresee there being one in the next couple of years. xBox only rents films, the selection is sparse, and it takes a fortnight to download a single film. Apple TV lets you buy movies and access them easily, so long as you're in to VHS-quality entertainment, but you still wait longer than a trip to the store to view it.
When Joe can walk into a store and be told they've got a player that'll play all formats for an affordable price, HDM media will really take off. Combo players will become affordable long before there's a usable means of buying high-definition movies online and keeping them.
Cory I actually agree with you on something-- well only for the first paragraph.
I'm still not sure that a low cost universal player will save HDM. HDM prices will have to drop considerably to attract Joe and HDTV prices also will have to drop some more, say $800 for a respected name brand 40" LCD or 42" Plasma. I had hoped to see more of a HDTV price drop for this Christmas.
Considering they already look perfect, do you think there'd really be a perceivable improvement in picture quality if they did?
They don't always look perfect. Happy Feet has major banding issues, others have other artifacts, and when the movie is too long Warner gives us down to 448k DD - the same as good old DVD.
Wouldn't it be better and more consistent if all movies had the same lossless audio and high bitrate video?