My official Powermac prediction

the mactivistthe mactivist
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
I have no inside info, but here is my official prediction for the new powermac line:



New Case

266 motherboard

DDR RAM

Firewire 800

Apollo G4

GeForce 3 in top two models

24 bit sound

Superdrive across the board.



1.2Ghz, 256 RAM, 40 GB HD - $1800,

dual 1.2 - 256 RAM, 60 GB HD - $2400

and dual 1.4 - 512 RAM, 60GB X 2 - $3200



Ports:

3 usb, 3 firewire, gb ethernet, modem, digital sound, headphones.



I think the new case will be quite a bit smaller than the current one, but still have room for 4 PCI cards and one AGP 4X. I think there will be room for two hard drives in total, as well as an internal zip and internal 5.25" device. i think the new case will be white with clear plastic. i think it will be a lot more boxy than the curvacious current models.



I hope they also make a larger tower model with room for more than one 5.25" device and several hard drives, but I doubt that they will.



I think we'll see these machines before the summer...



so that's it. comments?



Comments

  • Reply 1 of 10
    fieldorfieldor Posts: 213member
    You see the G4 in the iMac was a goodstep of Apple, because it has no multi-potential. Quad-processor can't be done with G4 because it has a few problems with such things. That's why G5 is coming soon it has the potential for Quads, with Hypertransport and the new nVidia card,8X AGP.





    G5 to the top with gForce4
  • Reply 2 of 10
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    I just don't think the Apollo will get up to 1.4Ghz. Supposedly, SOI can add 25-30% additional clock speed.



    If we assume the current G4 tops out at 867, that would make the Apollo about 1.1Ghz.



    Even if we assume the current G4 can get to 1Ghz, which is highly doubtful, that still only gets the Apollo up to 1.3 Ghz at best.



    If they end up using the .13 process on the G4 at some point in the future, then perhaps. But (hopefully) the G5 would be out by then, and the .13 G4 would go into laptops and iMacs. So that's a long time down the road.
  • Reply 3 of 10
    jrcjrc Posts: 817member
    USB 2?
  • Reply 4 of 10
    g-newsg-news Posts: 1,107member
    let the flames begin, I don't say this will happen, but I hope so:



    new case

    G5

    DDR 333 RAM and bus

    Firewire 1600Mbit (Gigawire)

    USB 2.0

    ATA 133

    AGP 8x



    60-160 GB HD

    256-512MB RAM

    1-1.4 maybe 1.6GHz at least one dual config, maybe a quad, nVidia GeForce 4 BTO or top model, lower models GF3 ti 200. 3 USB 2.0 ports, 2 Gigawire ports, Airport option, Gbit ethernet, full keyboard and a 2 button wheelmouse (it's about time), new case bigger than the current one, yet still white. Either a big cubic shape or a zoomed tower. 3 internal 3.5" spaces, 2 external 5.25", one external 3.5", the more the better. 4x PCI 1x AGP, 3-4X RAM, possibility of Serial ATA or internal Gigawire optical ports too.



    Price range 1900-3500$



    Maybe a new name.



    Ok, knowing apple its rather going to be a 867-933-1000MHz speedbump on the current QS machines, but I may dream, may I?



    G-News
  • Reply 5 of 10
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    I think the current G4 tops out at 1 GHZ, at least it can be overclocked to that. A 30% increase puts us at 1.3, but I'd have to think that they would also fix some of the problems the chip has that is keeping it at or just under 1 GHZ. The Apollo appears to be a major revision of the chip, so I wouldn't be surprised if it scales to 1.6 GHZ. The new iMac needs some headroom and if they're starting it at 800, I assume Apple expects to be able to increase that over time (no laughs please )



    From what I understand the Apollo revision is a bigger jump than from the PII to the PIII.
  • Reply 6 of 10
    g-newsg-news Posts: 1,107member
    not too hard, the jump from teh last P2 core to the first P3 core (Katmai) was rather a slip than a jump. Later P3 cores where quite different though.

    The P4 also varies already. Northwood si partially a lot faster than Willamette, especially since it has more L2 cache.
  • Reply 7 of 10
    rickagrickag Posts: 1,626member
    The Mactivist



    I hope your right and it occurs quickly. Just a note, see link below.



    News Release - 9-Apr-2001

    <a href="http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=mot&script=411&layout=-6&item_id=164832"; target="_blank">http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=mot&script=411&layout=-6&item_id=164832</a>;



    "In addition, Motorola offers specialized features such as Silicon on Insulator (SOI)"



    "Motorola is currently running embedded microprocessor cores on this advanced 0.13 micron process. Production is expected to begin in second quarter of this year in MOS13, Motorola's most advanced 8-inch facility in Austin, Texas."



    This means that Motorola has @ least 8 months manufacturing experience making products with HiP7.



    That's why when the Motorola rep was quoted as saying the next G4 would have SOI on a 0.18µ die, I was somewhat chagrined.



    I still believe the next update will be Feb. using SOI, but not 0.13µ. Then Apollo will follow @ MWNY in July? on the 0.13µ die and maybe, if we're lucky DDRsDram(I still don't expect this until the G5 arrives in late 2002 early 2003) <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
  • Reply 8 of 10
    koldolmekoldolme Posts: 53member
    The good thing with the delay of the new PMs is that the GeForce 4 will probably be ready by then..
  • Reply 9 of 10
    jerombajeromba Posts: 357member
    MMmh let's go with a Dream Config...

    Reality Distortion Field, well, here we go:



    PowerMac G5 1.0 /1.2/1.4 Ghz

    Up to 4 processor (BTO)

    Mobo @ 400 Mhz / DDR up to 4 GB

    RapidIO / HyperTransport (Apple Hybrid Solution)

    ATA 133

    Aqua 3D & Vector Accelerator or whatever

    Gigawire / USB 2

    GeForce 4



    [ 01-08-2002: Message edited by: jeromba ]</p>
  • Reply 10 of 10
    apple.otakuapple.otaku Posts: 590member
    Que more Motorola layoffs...
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