Who's Running the Sleazy Campaign?

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  • trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,271member
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    Originally Posted by tonton View Post


    I don't understand why Stephen Hawking is relevant. I haven't met Stephen Hawking, but John McCain is no Stephen Hawking.



    John McCain can throw out the first pitch at a World Series Baseball game.



    John McCain can write an email, easily and efficiently.



    The argument that John McCain does not write emails because he is crippled beyond the capacity to be able to do so easily is a bold-faced lie.



    The fact, which John McCain admitted, is that he doesn't write emails because he doesn't think it's important.



    Have you met no one with a single bad joint? It doesn't mean it can't be done but if a choice exists that allows them to avoid the pain they will make it. Also one time is not the same thing is repetitive motion. McCain can throw out A pitch, but couldn't pitch an inning or likely even to multiple batters.



    This link notes McCains limitations and did so in 2000 before it became the Obama talking point. It hits on pretty much every talking point sent forth by the Obama campaign that has been mentioned here.



    It contains this link which goes to a Forbes article from 2000 noting the following.



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    In certain ways, McCain was a natural Web candidate. Chairman of the Senate Telecommunications Subcommittee and regarded as the U.S. Senate's savviest technologist, McCain is an inveterate devotee of email. His nightly ritual is to read his email together with his wife, Cindy. The injuries he incurred as a Vietnam POW make it painful for McCain to type. Instead, he dictates responses that his wife types on a laptop. "She's a whiz on the keyboard, and I'm so laborious," McCain admits.



  • franksargentfranksargent Posts: 4,694member
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    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Have you met no one with a single bad joint? It doesn't mean it can't be done but if a choice exists that allows them to avoid the pain they will make it. Also one time is not the same thing is repetitive motion. McCain can throw out A pitch, but couldn't pitch an inning or likely even to multiple batters.



    This link notes McCains limitations and did so in 2000 before it became the Obama talking point. It hits on pretty much every talking point sent forth by the Obama campaign that has been mentioned here.



    It contains this link which goes to a Forbes article from 2000 noting the following.











    McCain's inability to use a computer is irrelevant to his ability to govern.



    Why are we even having this discussion?



    Oh, I see, we're in a computer forum discussion group devoted to politics.



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    It hits on pretty much every talking point sent forth by the Obama campaign that has been mentioned here.



    What talking points from the Obama campaign are you referring too?



    Be specific, since I am completely unaware of said talking points from "the Obama campaign."



    EDIT: Your link has two http\\\ in it.
  • trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,271member
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    McCain's inability to use a computer is irrelevant to his ability to govern.



    Why are we even having this discussion?



    Oh, I see, we're in a computer forum discussion group devoted to politics.







    What talking points from the Obama campaign are you referring too?



    Be specific, since I am completely unaware of said talking points from "the Obama campaign."



    EDIT: Your link has two http\\\ in it.



    Obama ran an ad on this issue and has been pressing it in the media. I'm pretty sure a link to this ad was in the OP.
  • hardeeharharhardeeharhar Posts: 4,841member
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    Yes, completely. He can use a computer and he does know how to send e-mail. False. False, and false.



    There was more to the ad, SDW...



    In fact, almost half the ad isn't commenting on McCain's self-defined inability to use a computer...
  • franksargentfranksargent Posts: 4,694member
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    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Obama ran an ad on this issue and has been pressing it in the media. I'm pretty sure a link to this ad was in the OP.



    I can find many links about the ad, but I can't find the ad in and of itself.



    Why is that important?



    I want to see this ad unfiltered through the eyes/voices of others.



    I can't seem to find this particular ad on the Obama campaign website.



    Could someone here post a direct link to this ad?



    TIA
  • gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
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    Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post


    Are we really going to play the pictures game? Is this like the picture of Bush looking through the binoculars with the lens caps on? Seriously...that's the basis of your position?



    Well, the pictures obviously destroy the really weak argument that you borrowed from a newspaper article from years ago bout poor old McCain.



    "poor little McCain can't use a computer because of his war injuries"....*



    *use of much smaller keyboards like those of cellphones and Blackberrys not included. Goal posts may be moved at any time upon arrival of new talking points.



  • groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
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    McCain physically can, does understand them and makes technology choices that he feels are more efficient for him.



    Excellent, thanks for destroying SDW's pathetic argument.
  • trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,271member
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    Originally Posted by Gilsch View Post


    Well, the pictures obviously destroy the really weak argument that you borrowed from a newspaper article from years ago bout poor old McCain.



    "poor little McCain can't use a computer because of his war injuries"....*



    *use of much smaller keyboards like those of cellphones and Blackberrys not included. Goal posts may be moved at any time upon arrival of new talking points.







    Do any of the pics show McCain typing on these smaller keyboards?



    I don't own a Crackberry, but on my phone I have my email and messages set to auto-show when they arrive. I just dismiss them after I have read them with one button.
  • bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    If somebody can use the buttons (even just one) on a cell phone, they can use a computer... there are plenty of assistive devices that are easier to use than a cell phone button.



    This is no longer an argument over "can he" in a physical sense but it now becomes "can he" in an actual sense assuming physical capability is there and I think the answer is he doesn't see the value (he said he prefers voice) and chooses not to use computers to a greater extent.



    It is amazing to what lengths people will go to to defend this guy. The goalposts on every topic change at random depending upon the needs of the moment.



    The photo says it all. He has the physical ability.
  • trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,271member
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    Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post


    If somebody can use the buttons (even just one) on a cell phone, they can use a computer... there are plenty of assistive devices that are easier to use than a cell phone button.



    This is no longer an argument over "can he" in a physical sense but it now becomes "can he" in an actual sense assuming physical capability is there and I think the answer is he doesn't see the value (he said he prefers voice) and chooses not to use computers to a greater extent.



    It is amazing to what lengths people will go to to defend this guy. The goalposts on every topic change at random depending upon the needs of the moment.



    The photo says it all. He has the physical ability.



    I guess the concept of repetitive stress injuries, arthritis, etc. is just made up crap. Clearly if someone can do it one time, even in mild pain then they can do it forever no matter the cost or trade-off and additionally if they don't make the choice someone else would deem best, then they must be an idiot.
  • jimmacjimmac Posts: 11,898member
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    Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post


    Read the article as quoted in the link I posted.







    Cough.



    Where I work we have a Coach that has no hands and he manages to type and just about everything else. He doesn't let it slow him down.
  • bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
    One of the greatest minds of all time:



    Stephen Hawking







    Read about what he can do:



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking#Computer



    As I have said, if there is a will, there is a way, virtually regardless of the degree of immobility.



    Stephen even flew on NASA's Vomit Comet!
  • tontontonton Posts: 14,064member
    Again, the reason McCain doesn't send emails has nothing to do with his disability. He even said so himself.



    He just "never had the need to".



    So stop with the disability strawman.
  • bergermeisterbergermeister Posts: 6,784member
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    Originally Posted by tonton View Post


    Again, the reason McCain doesn't send emails has nothing to do with his disability. He even said so himself.



    He just "never had the need to".



    So stop with the disability strawman.





    I realize that...it was in the 2nd post. However, some have continued to argue that he couldn't because of his disability.



    If there is a will, there is a way. John McCain does not have the desire to use computers. That's fine. I don't agree with that attitude; he should at least know what is going on... Look at how Palin's email account got hit. Is the entire staff so incompetent regarding tech?
  • tontontonton Posts: 14,064member
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    Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post


    I realize that...it was in the 2nd post. However, some have continued to argue that he couldn't because of his disability.



    If there is a will, there is a way. John McCain does not have the desire to use computers. That's fine. I don't agree with that attitude; he should at least know what is going on... Look at how Palin's email account got hit. Is the entire staff so incompetent regarding tech?



    There's plausible speculation that the hit on Palin's email was a plant. The email was tailored, revealed to be "innocuous", and now has an excuse to be deleted, before investigators can get their hands on it. How convenient.
  • trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,271member
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    Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post


    One of the greatest minds of all time:



    Stephen Hawking







    Read about what he can do:



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking#Computer



    As I have said, if there is a will, there is a way, virtually regardless of the degree of immobility.



    Stephen even flew on NASA's Vomit Comet!



    So since McCain doesn't take several minutes to painfully compose an answer to a question instead of making a one minute call, he is an idiot?
  • @_@ artman@_@ artman Posts: 5,231member
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    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    So since McCain doesn't take several minutes to painfully compose an answer to a question instead of making a one minute call, he is an idiot?



    The old fellow can't painfully compose an answer to a question, period.



    We now have learned that McCain thinks Spain is in Latin America.



    The Pain in Spain Falls Mainly on McCain



    UPDATE: After saying he would refuse to meet with the Prime Minister of Spain, McCain campaign backtracks and says they will meet with the President of Spain, a non-existent person.
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