The American Left Slides Into Psychosis

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  • Reply 361 of 823
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by segovius View Post


    Heheh...



    Dems = Literal Truth



    Repubs = See In Context



    Pathetic....



    And still no answer to my question.







    In the long list of unanswered questions by tm, I've lost track of what was the latest question. It wasn't this one, was it?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by segovius View Post


    I have a question. It's philosophical so you might want to sit down for a while.

    I'd appreciate an answer though and just for you we'll make it simple. You can choose:



    A) Yes



    B) No




    Now here is the question:



    "If, with hindsight, one knew Hitler was going to be responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people and - theoretically - one could turn back the clock to stop him being born or even perhaps abort or extinguish him shortly after birth, would you TRUMPY, support that?"



    Remember...A or B...yes or no...

    I appreciate you'll need time to digest and chug the old cogs into gear but don't take too long...



  • Reply 362 of 823
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post






    Now who is posting pictures?????????
  • Reply 363 of 823
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    You called my answers a tirade and then demand another. Interesting....



    I showed you my answers. What about them is not "answery" enough for you?



    Is English not your first language?



    No, as others here, we gave up on you answering questions.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Is English not your first language?



    I guess you need a tutor?
  • Reply 364 of 823
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,299member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FineTunes View Post


    No, as others here, we gave up on you answering questions.



    You didn't quote any questions. I showed you my statements of fact to the non-asked questions. What more do you want?



    You want proof of my answers. That's fine. State what constitutes proof and I'll be happy to provide it.



    However considering you can't even recognize the answer, why am I going to piss in the wind to find proof when you won't even state what you will accept as proof.



    Quote:

    I guess you need a tutor?



    My tutoring you has worked pretty well. This is probably the longest you've typed without some emotions or quoting entire articles and their links with no comment.



    I'm having quite the positive effect on you.



    You're welcome.
  • Reply 365 of 823
    Eugenics.



    You are suggesting that senior members of a political party in a western democracy are about to throw away any chance of their re-election, for good, in the face of universal international disgust, by discussing the possibility of eugenics.



    I know that you're the only one in the whole world who has noticed this, and not a single journalist, pundit or politician among the millions of your nation's citizens has made any capital with this, but still.



    Eugenics.



    Without playing THE INTENT GAME.



    Show me how those quotes mean that Democrats are discussing EUGENICS.
  • Reply 366 of 823
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,299member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mumbo Jumbo View Post


    Eugenics.



    You are suggesting that senior members of a political party in a western democracy are about to throw away any chance of their re-election, for good, in the face of universal international disgust, by discussing the possibility of eugenics.



    Since you aren't using the quote function, and in fact are reinterpreting my words, I'll need clarification. What do you mean by possibility of eugenics? I have to ask since thy are your words and not mine.



    Quote:

    I know that you're the only one in the whole world who has noticed this, and not a single journalist, pundit or politician among the millions of your nation's citizens has made any capital with this, but still.



    I said there were lots of articles that noted the language of Democrats and Democratic leaders whereby they argued the Democrats were arguing they were Übermensch and those voting against them were not. Do you doubt these articles?



    Quote:

    Eugenics.



    Without playing THE INTENT GAME.



    Show me how those quotes mean that Democrats are discussing EUGENICS.



    It isn't about intent. Übermensch isn't some bullshit I made up.



    Zarathustra ties the Übermensch to the death of God. While this God was the ultimate expression of other-worldly values and the instincts that gave birth to those values, belief in that God nevertheless did give life meaning for a time. God is dead means that the idea of God can no longer provide values. With the sole source of values no longer capable of providing those values, there is a real chance of nihilism.



    Zarathustra presents the Übermensch as the creator of new values. In this way, it appears as a solution to the problem of the death of God and nihilism. Because the Übermensch acts to create new values within the moral vacuum of nihilism, there is nothing that this creative act would not justify. Alternatively, in the absence of this creation, there are no grounds upon which to criticize or justify any action, including the particular values created and the means by which they are promulgated.



    In order to avoid a relapse into Platonic Idealism or asceticism, the creation of these new values cannot be motivated by the same instincts that gave birth to those tables of values. Instead, they must be motivated by a love of this world and of life. Whereas Nietzsche diagnosed the Christian value system as a reaction against life and hence destructive in a sense, the new values which the Übermensch will be responsible for will be life-affirming and creative.




    It is a set of values and a goal.



    Some commentators associate the Übermensch with a program of eugenics.[6] This is most pronounced when considered in the aspect of a goal that humanity sets for itself. The reduction of all psychology to physiology implies, to some, that human beings can be bred for cultural traits. This interpretation of Nietzsche's doctrine focuses more on the future of humanity than on a single cataclysmic individual. There is no consensus regarding how this aspect of the Übermensch relates to the creation of new values, and many would deny vehemently that Nietzsche would countenance a eugenics program at all.



    Please note what you don't get and I'll hit it more. This is not about intent.
  • Reply 367 of 823
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    You didn't quote any questions. I showed you my statements of fact to the non-asked questions. What more do you want?



    You want proof of my answers. That's fine. State what constitutes proof and I'll be happy to provide it.



    However considering you can't even recognize the answer, why am I going to piss in the wind to find proof when you won't even state what you will accept as proof.



    I'm having quite the positive effect on you.




  • Reply 368 of 823
    segoviussegovius Posts: 9,872member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Please note what you don't get and I'll hit it more. This is not about intent.



    I've told you before Trumpy - lay off Nietzsche.



    There is no way you can understand or grasp his solutions because there is no way you can understand the problem.



    You don't even think there IS a problem and all you can do is try to link up words of his to ideas you heard somewhere once before on some right-wing blog somewhere orFix news.



    You're like those one dimensional Flatlanders (more than just 'like' them actually) struggling to come to terms with three dimensional objects that pass through their plane.



    In your case though you have an added angle to your one-dimension: you cannot conceive how anything you say or believe could possibly ever be wrong.



    You're ok with objects that have less than one dimension (ie none) like Ayn Rand or Republican Policies because that is the only time you can ever truly be superior as your one-dimension does indeed, appropriately enough given your moniker, trump no dimensions at all - but don't stray from the paths you know.



    The world of nuance is a scary place and a nod's as good as a wink to a blind horse.
  • Reply 369 of 823
    segoviussegovius Posts: 9,872member
    Given Trumpy's re-defining of what dialogue and discourse are (a natural progression from his previous redefining of 'truth' and 'facts') I too - like FT - am going to be 'improved by him' and learn at the feet of the master.



    From now on I will be a Trumpy disciple and practice my own form of 'PO Revisionism' (at least in regard to his posts) but of course, I shall do it better and funnier.



    From now on I shall only answer Trumpy's posts with a fitting and appropriate quote from one of his two arch bêtes noire: Friedrich Nietzsche and Mulla Nasrudin - Disturber of the Peace!



    Here's one of each to inaugurate:



    Quote:
    The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently. Friedrich Nietzsche



    Quote:
    One day Mulla Nasrudin brings a guitar to his house. He plays it but he is not moving his hands, holding one place continuously. As a result, only one note is coming out. His wife comes and asks, "Mulla what are you doing?" and he answers: "Can't you see, I am playing the guitar!" His wife then says: "I watched many people who play guitar and they hit different notes, they move their hands continuously, but you don't make a single move!" Mulla responds: "My dear wife, you have no idea what you're talking about. All those people you watched "playing the guitar" are looking for that place which I am holding right now!!!"



  • Reply 370 of 823
    trumptman, I can do better than the quote function. Another poster was kind enough to make a precis of all your statements on the subject right here.



    http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...&postcount=336



    We all know them by know, but as you seem to have conveniently forgotten, now the thread has a new page, and everything, you can just click on the link above (as can everyone else) for a reminder.



    So. Eugenics. You have claimed that senior Democrats are "talking about eugenics." This is a direct quote. They are "already talking about eugenics." These were your words.



    Where. Please find me a quote. One. One quote where senior democrats are seriously considering, suggesting, weighing or even DISCUSSING the subject of eugenics. You seem to be the only person in a nation of millions who has found evidence of this. This should turn American and world politics on its head. So find a quote. This is dynamite. Find a quote. A quote.



    EUGENICS.



    INENT GAME.



    EUGENICS.



    TRUMPTMAN IS PLAYING THE INTENT GAME.



    EUGENICS. DEMOCRATS. EUGENICS.
  • Reply 371 of 823
    Hey, trumptman.



    If one of your children came to you and said "I have just read that American politicians are talking about 'eugenics'. Is this true? I am scared", what would you say?



    Would you let your child think that? Or would you say "Of course not, that's preposterous, this is America, Americans aren't that evil." Or would you say "Yes, it's true, I'm afraid. Sleep well."



    I'm curious. I want to know if this is something you just thought up to scare strangers or whether you actually believe it.



    It's interesting. Do you believe this? Or are you just saying it, because you are a liar?
  • Reply 372 of 823
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mumbo Jumbo View Post


    Hey, trumptman.



    If one of your children came to you and said "I have just read that American politicians are talking about 'eugenics'. Is this true? I am scared", what would you say?



    Would you let your child think that? Or would you say "Of course not, that's preposterous, this is America, Americans aren't that evil." Or would you say "Yes, it's true, I'm afraid. Sleep well."



    I'm curious. I want to know if this is something you just thought up to scare strangers or whether you actually believe it.



    It's interesting. Do you believe this? Or are you just saying it, because you are a liar?



    Wait, this is not fair. Before you get an answer to the original question, you ask more? Also sego is still waiting:



    http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...21#post1747521



    Shame on you.



  • Reply 373 of 823
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,299member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by segovius View Post


    I've told you before Trumpy - lay off Nietzsche.

    There is no way you can understand or grasp his solutions because there is no way you can understand the problem.



    Oh noes. Someone is getting upset because they think the public sand box belongs to them. I understand him just fine Sego and your weird little prattling here doesn't change that fact.



    Quote:

    You don't even think there IS a problem and all you can do is try to link up words of his to ideas you heard somewhere once before on some right-wing blog somewhere orFix news.



    Can you prove this accusation? Can you show the only reason I noted Nietzsche is due to a right wing blog or Fox news? I'd love to see you do it.



    Quote:

    You're like those one dimensional Flatlanders (more than just 'like' them actually) struggling to come to terms with three dimensional objects that pass through their plane.



    Oh, now we need to keep adding to your little tirade of name calling. Are you going to same I'm a poopy head until I give you back your public sandbox Sego?



    Quote:

    In your case though you have an added angle to your one-dimension: you cannot conceive how anything you say or believe could possibly ever be wrong.



    Yes well you going into claims about my mind and what supposedly can and cannot conceive means exactly jack and diddly. It's just another sad little ad-hom from you.



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    You're ok with objects that have less than one dimension (ie none) like Ayn Rand or Republican Policies because that is the only time you can ever truly be superior as your one-dimension does indeed, appropriately enough given your moniker, trump no dimensions at all - but don't stray from the paths you know.



    Why thank you for putting me back in my place oh Übermensch. I'll take me and my limited mind back to the horse stalls and do your labor for you. I'll go pick the veggies before I feel your well justified whip across my back for the sake and good of all humanity. You are quite the little tyrant Sego.

    Quote:

    The world of nuance is a scary place and a nod's as good as a wink to a blind horse.



    Yes especially when that nuance amounts to the third grade version of you rule and I drool so I better shut up or you'll beat me up for not knowing the school playground is really yours.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by segovius View Post


    Given Trumpy's re-defining of what dialogue and discourse are (a natural progression from his previous redefining of 'truth' and 'facts') I too - like FT - am going to be 'improved by him' and learn at the feet of the master.



    From now on I will be a Trumpy disciple and practice my own form of 'PO Revisionism' (at least in regard to his posts) but of course, I shall do it better and funnier.



    From now on I shall only answer Trumpy's posts with a fitting and appropriate quote from one of his two arch bêtes noire: Friedrich Nietzsche and Mulla Nasrudin - Disturber of the Peace!



    Here's one of each to inaugurate:



    You're so cute. Do the Prince picture first.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mumbo Jumbo View Post


    trumptman, I can do better than the quote function. Another poster was kind enough to make a precis of all your statements on the subject right here.



    http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...&postcount=336



    We all know them by know, but as you seem to have conveniently forgotten, now the thread has a new page, and everything, you can just click on the link above (as can everyone else) for a reminder.



    So. Eugenics. You have claimed that senior Democrats are "talking about eugenics." This is a direct quote. They are "already talking about eugenics." These were your words.



    Where. Please find me a quote. One. One quote where senior democrats are seriously considering, suggesting, weighing or even DISCUSSING the subject of eugenics. You seem to be the only person in a nation of millions who has found evidence of this. This should turn American and world politics on its head. So find a quote. This is dynamite. Find a quote. A quote.



    EUGENICS.



    INENT GAME.



    EUGENICS.



    TRUMPTMAN IS PLAYING THE INTENT GAME.



    EUGENICS. DEMOCRATS. EUGENICS.



    Oh I assure you that I'm not the only one noting this. There are lots of folks out there. Much like how you didn't "get" the teaparty or "get" the elections. Just because you have blinders on doesn't mean the information isn't out there. You are the type who dismisses sources and avoids them when they aren't on your approved reading list. Now I've already linked to a few and you dismissed them. You don't get more to dismiss. You can go back and address the current examples and at leat provide rationales for why you disagree with them.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mumbo Jumbo View Post


    Hey, trumptman.



    If one of your children came to you and said "I have just read that American politicians are talking about 'eugenics'. Is this true? I am scared", what would you say?



    Would you let your child think that? Or would you say "Of course not, that's preposterous, this is America, Americans aren't that evil." Or would you say "Yes, it's true, I'm afraid. Sleep well."



    I'm curious. I want to know if this is something you just thought up to scare strangers or whether you actually believe it.



    It's interesting. Do you believe this? Or are you just saying it, because you are a liar?





    I'd say gee cute child, did your Mommy or Daddy get put on a watch list because they are a veteran?
    I'd ask if they voted Republican and thus are "scared." or "know-nothings." I'd ask if they were one of those voters out there that President Obama labeled "enemies."



    Because if the government has your profile on a watch list, if your leaders are declaring you incompetent and an enemy, you aren't paranoid, my dear student. I would also console them as to why the president labeled their mommy and daddy as enemies.



    BTW, I'm pretty sure all those examples were in the first post of the thread too. Would you console the student MJ? Would you make them feel better if they asked you why the president called their mommy or daddy an enemy of America?
  • Reply 374 of 823
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,299member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FineTunes View Post


    Wait, this is not fair. Before you get an answer to the original question, you ask more? Also sego is still waiting:



    http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...21#post1747521



    FT, be honest. There are more than two choices for what you can do to a hypothetical past, present or future Hitler. The only choices aren't murder him or don't.



    BTW, I've posted the initial examples and answered plenty of questions and provided PLENTY of explanation. You dancing band of fools have answered none. Please do. It's quite rude to demand of others what you don't demand of yourself.
  • Reply 375 of 823
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Now I've already linked to a few and you dismissed them. You don't get more to dismiss. You can go back and address the current examples and at leat provide rationales for why you disagree with them.



    None of your quotes have anything to do with eugenics. While I understand that you have shown me some quotes, those quotes have nothing to do with eugenics.



    EUGENICS. The MANAGEMENT OF THE AMERICAN GENE POOL.



    The Democrats are not proposing eugenics. The quotes you have provided do not demonstrate anything of the kind. Even though you linked to some quotes, those quotes do not mean what you say they mean.



    So find some quotes that do.





    EUGENICS.



    That paragraph has nothing to do with EUGENICS.



    It's about a watch list that the PREVIOUS PRESIDENT commissioned, issued from an INDEPENDENT STATE BODY, and has NOTHING to do with the personal opinion of either president.



    That list has NOTHING TO DO WITH EUGENICS.



    And my god, you are a liar.



    So, EUGENICS.



    Without playing the INTENT GAME.



    The Democrats are not proposing or discussing eugenics. That is something you've read somewhere on the internet. It is not true. Even though you have some quotes. Those quotes are irrelevant.



    So find me some better ones.



    If the Democrats were proposing eugenics it would be international news. They are not, and it is not, because the idea is preposterous, and offensive, and has nothing to do with reality.



    EUGENICS, trumptman. EUGENICS. THE DEMOCRATS.
  • Reply 376 of 823
    segoviussegovius Posts: 9,872member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Oh noes. Someone is getting upset because they think the public sand box belongs to them. I understand him just fine Sego and your weird little prattling here doesn't change that fact.



    ?The world was conquered through the understanding of dogs; the world exists through the understanding of dogs? - Friedrich Nietzsche



    Quote:

    Can you prove this accusation? Can you show the only reason I noted Nietzsche is due to a right wing blog or Fox news? I'd love to see you do it.



    One day Mullah Nasruddin was asked "Could you tell us the exact location of the center of the world?"



    "Yes, I can" replied Mullah Nasruddin. "It is just under the left hind of my donkey."



    "Well, maybe! But do you have any proof?"



    "If you doubt my word, just measure and see."




    Quote:

    Oh, now we need to keep adding to your little tirade of name calling. Are you going to same I'm a poopy head until I give you back your public sandbox Sego?





    Quote:

    Yes well you going into claims about my mind and what supposedly can and cannot conceive means exactly jack and diddly. It's just another sad little ad-hom from you.



    Once a philosopher, having made an appointment to dispute with Nasrudin, called at the appointed hour, and found him away from home. Nasrudin had forgotten their plan and was in the teahouse playing table games and telling stories with his friends.



    After waiting from some time the philosopher grew angry. Picking up a piece of chalk, he wrote, ?Stupid Oaf? on Nasrudin's door and left in a huff.



    As soon as he got home and saw this, Nasrudin rushed to the philosopher's house.



    ?I had completely forgotten our appointment,? He said, ? I apologize for not having been home. Of course I remembered the appointment as soon as I saw that you had left your name on my door.?




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    Why thank you for putting me back in my place oh Übermensch. I'll take me and my limited mind back to the horse stalls and do your labor for you. I'll go pick the veggies before I feel your well justified whip across my back for the sake and good of all humanity. You are quite the little tyrant Sego......Yes especially when that nuance amounts to the third grade version of you rule and I drool so I better shut up or you'll beat me up for not knowing the school playground is really yours.



    ?The higher we soar, the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.? - Friedrich Nietzsche
  • Reply 377 of 823
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,299member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mumbo Jumbo View Post


    None of your quotes have anything to do with eugenics. While I understand that you have shown me some quotes, those quotes have nothing to do with eugenics.



    EUGENICS. The MANAGEMENT OF THE AMERICAN GENE POOL.



    The Democrats are not proposing eugenics. The quotes you have provided do not demonstrate anything of the kind. Even though you linked to some quotes, those quotes do not mean what you say they mean.



    So find some quotes that do.



    EUGENICS.



    That paragraph has nothing to do with EUGENICS.



    It's about a watch list that the PREVIOUS PRESIDENT commissioned, issued from an INDEPENDENT STATE BODY, and has NOTHING to do with the personal opinion of either president.



    That list has NOTHING TO DO WITH EUGENICS.



    And my god, you are a liar.



    So, EUGENICS.



    Without playing the INTENT GAME.



    The Democrats are not proposing or discussing eugenics. That is something you've read somewhere on the internet. It is not true. Even though you have some quotes. Those quotes are irrelevant.



    So find me some better ones.



    If the Democrats were proposing eugenics it would be international news. They are not, and it is not, because the idea is preposterous, and offensive, and has nothing to do with reality.



    EUGENICS, trumptman. EUGENICS. THE DEMOCRATS.



    Have you noticed you are kind of chanting to yourself here MJ? It's a very curious thing.



    I've fully justified my post in a multitude of ways with a multitude of sources. You are down to multiple dismissals and denials in the same post. You're just repeating yourself now while asking for more work to dismiss and deny. You don't even rationalize your dismissal and denials and YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO SO.



    FYI, the executive branch certain decides whether to issue a report or not and on top of that, it certain can decide whether to follow or ignore the guidelines and whether they are valid or not. However I like your view. I'm the president, I'm not responsible and I wash my hands of it sounds like quite the reelection campaign for 2012. The position of Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security was filled by President Obama and his appointed person is using the recommendations.



    Now, I don't need to convince you against your will. I've humored you, patted you on the head and now you repeated yourself ad-infinitum grows tedious. You can play your little tyrant games where you scream demands into the air and then dismiss them because, oh you don't think the soup is the right temp, and that is your perogative. However I won't be inclined to deal with it.
  • Reply 378 of 823
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Have you noticed you are kind of chanting to yourself here MJ? It's a very curious thing.



    I've fully justified my post in a multitude of ways with a multitude of sources. You are down to multiple dismissals and denials in the same post. You're just repeating yourself now while asking for more work to dismiss and deny. You don't even rationalize your dismissal and denials and YOU'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO SO.



    FYI, the executive branch certain decides whether to issue a report or not and on top of that, it certain can decide whether to follow or ignore the guidelines and whether they are valid or not. However I like your view. I'm the president, I'm not responsible and I wash my hands of it sounds like quite the reelection campaign for 2012. The position of Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security was filled by President Obama and his appointed person is using the recommendations.



    Now, I don't need to convince you against your will. I've humored you, patted you on the head and now you repeated yourself ad-infinitum grows tedious. You can play your little tyrant games where you scream demands into the air and then dismiss them because, oh you don't think the soup is the right temp, and that is your perogative. However I won't be inclined to deal with it.



    The proof against Eugenics is simple: The Republican party exists.
  • Reply 379 of 823
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Now, I don't need to convince you against your will. I've humored you, patted you on the head and now you repeated yourself ad-infinitum grows tedious. You can play your little tyrant games where you scream demands into the air and then dismiss them because, oh you don't think the soup is the right temp, and that is your perogative. However I won't be inclined to deal with it.



    No, trumptman, until you give me some quotes that actually have something to do with eugenics (your quotes have nothing to do with eugenics) you have proven nothing.



    I will repeat, because you do not seem to "get it", in capitals, in the hope that you will understand.



    THE QUOTES YOU GAVE ME HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EUGENICS. AND SO THEY DO NOT PROVE WHAT YOU SAY THEY DO.



    Do you get it now? Great! Then give me some quotes that ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH EUGENICS.



    Eugenics.



    Something just occurred to me. I think it might make you angry.



    If you believe that Democrats are discussing eugenics, meaning they actually want to manage the American gene pool, then... well, where can we meet? Ever? Where can you meet anyone? If you think "the opposition" is so evil and depraved as to be considering this...?



    If you really, truly, hand on heart, think that the American Democratic Party is discussing EUGENICS (and they aren't, the facts are that they really truly aren't, and there's no evidence of any kind at all anywhere that they are, certainly not in the quotes you keep offering) then... what can your contribution to American politics be? You can't make a contribution if you have such a weak grasp on the actual FACTS.



    If you don't actually believe that Democrats are discussing eugenics, then... well, you're just another lying hack, and a despicable human being.



    For your sake I hope it's the former. In that case you can actually get a hold on yourself, and think, and realise that what you're proposing is impossible, that no Democrat is actually that evil. And then you can rejoin the national conversation in a grown up way.



    You don't need to lose your passion. You can still think that every single Democrat and liberal alive is a c--t, as you clearly do.



    You can just argue with them using facts, like Americans have always done, and maybe add to the consensus.



    If it's the latter you'll just die lonely and bitter and sour. And I hope that's not the case.



    Come back to reality. Your country needs you.
  • Reply 380 of 823
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,299member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mumbo Jumbo View Post


    No, trumptman, until you give me some quotes that actually have something to do with eugenics (your quotes have nothing to do with eugenics) you have proven nothing.



    I will repeat, because you do not seem to "get it", in capitals, in the hope that you will understand.



    THE QUOTES YOU GAVE ME HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EUGENICS. AND SO THEY DO NOT PROVE WHAT YOU SAY THEY DO.



    Do you get it now? Great! Then give me some quotes that ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH EUGENICS.



    Eugenics.



    Something just occurred to me. I think it might make you angry.



    If you believe that Democrats are discussing eugenics, meaning they actually want to manage the American gene pool, then... well, where can we meet? Ever? Where can you meet anyone? If you think "the opposition" is so evil and depraved as to be considering this...?



    If you really, truly, hand on heart, think that the American Democratic Party is discussing EUGENICS (and they aren't, the facts are that they really truly aren't, and there's no evidence of any kind at all anywhere that they are, certainly not in the quotes you keep offering) then... what can your contribution to American politics be? You can't make a contribution if you have such a weak grasp on the actual FACTS.



    If you don't actually believe that Democrats are discussing eugenics, then... well, you're just another lying hack, and a despicable human being.



    For your sake I hope it's the former. In that case you can actually get a hold on yourself, and think, and realise that what you're proposing is impossible, that no Democrat is actually that evil. And then you can rejoin the national conversation in a grown up way.



    You don't need to lose your passion. You can still think that every single Democrat and liberal alive is a c--t, as you clearly do.



    You can just argue with them using facts, like Americans have always done, and maybe add to the consensus.



    If it's the latter you'll just die lonely and bitter and sour. And I hope that's not the case.



    Come back to reality. Your country needs you.







    MJ, I think you've gone off the deep end. If you're going to write fiction at least sign up for NaNOWriMo.
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