Review: Apple's 2011 Thunderbolt 11-inch and 13-inch MacBook Airs

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  • sflocalsflocal Posts: 3,387member
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    Originally Posted by marvfox View Post


    The con of the new MBA is the Ethernet which is a big concern to people who want a faster and more accurate connection than wifi which is slow many times.



    As I use my MBA at the office, that gigabit port was the main factor in my returning my one-week-old cinema display and getting the newer thunderbolt-equipped display. Wireless is great, but no substitute for a hard line.
  • morkymorky Posts: 164member
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    Originally Posted by jsmythe00 View Post


    Recent news states the iPad is cannabilizing mac sales. LMAO. Really Apple. They're creating great products to kill off their...other great products. This is why Apple is gonna eventually fail



    ...



    Bottome line is If Apple wants a likely successful new product to BE successful, they need to start making other successful products less successful to give other POSSIBLE successful products a chance to succeed. Only then will all their products be successful...or moderately so.



    This is about the silliest comment ever posted on the Internet.
  • solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post


    As I use my MBA at the office, that gigabit port was the main factor in my returning my one-week-old cinema display and getting the newer thunderbolt-equipped display. Wireless is great, but no substitute for a hard line.



    They have them in the store or you are waiting for delivery in 6-8 weeks?
  • mzaslovemzaslove Posts: 519member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsmythe00 View Post


    The whole post was sarcasm.



    "You missed the funny part, Leo."



    Seems they all did.
  • wigginwiggin Posts: 2,055member
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    Originally Posted by marvfox View Post


    The con of the new MBA is the Ethernet which is a big concern to people who want a faster and more accurate connection than wifi which is slow many times.



    But for the majority of people, just what are they connecting to? If you have an extensive home network, NAS, etc, yes, Ethernet is very beneficial. But the limiting factor for most people is their internet connection speed. And wi-fi is more than capable of keeping up with that for the vast majority of folks. If you look at all the techologies missing from the Air that are on my MBP, Ethernet is the one I use least. I use Firewire and even the optical drive on my MBP more than I use Ethernet. So given Apple's drive to remove old and seldom used technologies, it's really no surprise that there's no Ethernet built in.



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    Originally Posted by Hudson1 View Post


    Considering how popular the MacBook Air has become, I think we'll see Thunderbolt-based dock systems appearing before too long.



    The biggest "minus" in my opinion is the integrated graphics. It's slow and takes up part of the already limited RAM (especially in the 2 GB RAM, low-end Air). So I wonder if such a docking solution could include a dedicated GPU and if the Air (or any Thunderbolt Mac) could take full advantage of it as far as offloading CPU tasks to the GPU. Would the distance between the CPU and the GPU hinder effective use of the GPU for such purposes?



    (Edit: And would such a dock be "plug and play"? It's not like you can reach into a running Mac Pro and yank out a 3rd party video card.)



    I think the review needs to be updated to include a graphics performance comparison in addition to the CPU comparison. This is a big negative and should be included in the review.
  • sipadansipadan Posts: 107member
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    Originally Posted by Morky View Post


    This is about the silliest comment ever posted on the Internet.



    Dude, his whole post was quite clearly jesting. Or maybe yours is as well, but just a tad too subtle
  • fecklesstechguyfecklesstechguy Posts: 501member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsmythe00 View Post


    Recent news states the iPad is cannabilizing mac sales. LMAO. Really Apple. They're creating great products to kill off their...other great products. This is why Apple is gonna eventually fail



    Also, I think the Mac App store will be an epic fail. The problem is not the store but Apples other products. See, they've made portable devices so user friendly and efficient, who now-a-days gets on their mac. I haven't been on my Mini since I downloaded Lion(Awesome OS btw). That'll probably be the last time I visit the MAS. What a waste.



    Bottome line is If Apple wants a likely successful new product to BE successful, they need to start making other successful products less successful to give other POSSIBLE successful products a chance to succeed. Only then will all their products be successful...or moderately so.



    ROTFL. Trust me. Logically, this is sound thinking!



    So while Tim Cook indicated in the earnings call that it appeared to be the case that iPads had cannibalized Macs - they were impacting PC sales far worse, and Apple still managed to grow its mac marketshare against the PC base significantly. Far from an epic fail all indications are that MAS is showing remarkable success in terms of consumer/user uptake thus far so your call here is clearly wrong. It is an indication of serious smoking of something when you make a silly statement like you did above:
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    If Apple wants a likely successful new product to BE successful, they need to start making other successful products less successful to give other POSSIBLE successful products a chance to succeed.



    After all this time Apple surely has a grip on how to drive successful product in the marketplace. In fact it shows remarkable ignorance to insist that all consumers have the exact same needs driving successful product sell-out in any given category. That being said Apple isn't reducing the number of iPhones they are selling in order to shore up iPod sales, and they aren't afraid to EOL a product when the right times to do so. Success is marked by overall company revenue and profitability across all product lines.
  • mzaslovemzaslove Posts: 519member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fecklesstechguy View Post


    After all this time Apple surely has a grip on how to drive successful product in the marketplace. In fact it shows remarkable ignorance to insist that all consumers have the exact same needs driving successful product sell-out in any given category. That being said Apple isn't reducing the number of iPhones they are selling in order to shore up iPod sales, and they aren't afraid to EOL a product when the right times to do so. Success id marked by overall company revenue and profitability across all product lines.



    He was joking. It was pointed out by a lot of people, including the original poster. Seriously, it wasn't serious.
  • sflocalsflocal Posts: 3,387member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    They have them in the store or you are waiting for delivery in 6-8 weeks?



    It's on order. The day Apple did that display slip-up on their website was the day I took home their regular display. A week later when they officially announced the specs, and the monitor becoming more of a dock, I returned my "old" monitor and ordered the new one.



    I don't think the had them at the store. The two externals they had were connected to Mac pros which do not have TB ports.



    Broke my heart to pack up the monitor. Totally made my office work easier. So I'm really itching to get my new one!
  • accessoriesguyaccessoriesguy Posts: 86member
    The 13in Macbook pro is pretty much the macbook. It is the same size, has a better processor than air, has conventional storage. No GT processor. The only thing is that it is pricier. If the next one is cheaper, it would pretty much would be replacing the macbook.
  • filburtfilburt Posts: 398member
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    The full sized model also provides an extra pound and a half of weight, a significantly lower resolution display, and a machine that's nearly twice as thick, but only $100 less than the 13 inch Air (with its somewhat less alluring TN LCD display).



    Why single out Air for having TN when 99% of the notebooks out there, including MacBook Pros, have TN?
  • jsmythe00jsmythe00 Posts: 308member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mzaslove View Post


    "You missed the funny part, Leo."



    Seems they all did.



    Yeah...guess so. Oh well. i'll read through all absent minded replies
  • jsmythe00jsmythe00 Posts: 308member
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    Originally Posted by Sipadan View Post


    Dude, his whole post was quite clearly jesting. Or maybe yours is as well, but just a tad too subtle





    Guess dry humor must've gotten canceled the same time Friends went off air. Ahh I miss chandler's jokes. At least Barney from "how I met your mother" is around
  • stevehsteveh Posts: 347member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsmythe00 View Post


    Recent news states the iPad is cannabilizing mac sales. LMAO. Really Apple. They're creating great products to kill off their...other great products. This is why Apple is gonna eventually fail



    Whoever wrote that "news" failed to notice the increase in Mac sales that has continued since the iPad was introduced.



    For starters.



    You need to either switch to decaf, or get your money back from your recreational pharmaceutical supplier.
  • john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,611member
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Cons:

    Optical, Ethernet, HDMI output all require dongles



    Paired with one of the new Thunderbolt Cinema Displays as a home docking station and maybe a MacBook Air SuperDrive for importing disks and you are golden.



    I'm wondering if OWC will build a custom miniStack unit with both an optical disk and room for a 3.5" desktop HDD...
  • hudson1hudson1 Posts: 800member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by steveH View Post


    Whoever wrote that "news" failed to notice the increase in Mac sales that has continued since the iPad was introduced.



    For starters.



    You need to either switch to decaf, or get your money back from your recreational pharmaceutical supplier.



    There's been about a dozen posts mentioning/discussing the non-serious nature of the comment.
  • jsmythe00jsmythe00 Posts: 308member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hudson1 View Post


    There's been about a dozen posts mentioning/discussing the non-serious nature of the comment.



    they're not getting it
  • anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 16,772member
    Eagerly awaiting my 11"/4/1.8/256.



    FedEx says Friday.....



  • cu10cu10 Posts: 294member
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    Originally Posted by KPOM View Post


    Nice review, and I'm glad I went with the Core i7 on my 11"...

    Otherwise, nice review and thanks for putting up the specs.



    Core i7 on a 2 lb device, but then again it's around $2,000.



    Good review but needs some editing IMHO; too many "Jump to section" parts
  • anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 16,772member
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    Originally Posted by CU10 View Post


    ... too many "Jump to section" parts



    More space for eyeballs to view ads...
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