Notes of interest from Apple's Q1 2012 conference call

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in AAPL Investors edited January 2014


Apple on Tuesday posted a massive holiday quarter with record sales of more than 37 million iPhones, 15.43 million iPads and 5.2 million Macs. Following the news, Apple executives participated in a conference call with analysts and the press, and notes of interest follow.



Participating in Tuesday's call was Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook, Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer, and Treasurer Barry Whistler.



Highlights



Apple ended the quarter with $97.6 billion in cash, an increase of $16 billion from the previous quarter.



Oppenheimer said Apple executives are "actively discussing" potential uses for its massive cash hoard, but there are no specifics to share. But the CFO did say that the company is "not letting it burn a hole" in their pockets.



Cook said Apple made a risky bet on the high side for iPhone sales, and even that came short of actual sales. "As it turns out, we didn't bet high enough," Cook said. "Our customers are loving iPhone, and we're very happy with that."



1.5 million iPads already in use in education.



Cook said there will come a time when the tablet market is larger than the PC market. Tablets already exceeded desktop PC sales in the U.S. last quarter, based on the latest data from IDC.



Cook doesn't see "limited function" tablets like the Amazon Kindle Fire being in the same category as the iPad. He said Amazon and others will probably sell a "fair number" of units, but people who want an iPad won't settle for the limited function.



More than 600,000 copies of iBooks Author have been downloaded since it was announced last week.



More than 3 million downloads of the iTunes U application for iOS since last week.



iCloud has more than 85 million customers.



There are now 550,000 applications available for iOS, including more than 170,000 for iPad.



A favorable component environment led to high gross margins of 44 percent, even in the face of a hard drive shortage. Cook believes that favorable component environment will continue going into the next quarter.



Cook on the acquisition of flash memory maker Anobit: "Anobit has Fantastic technical talent. We're really fortunate to have them join us."



Apple's iPhone business



iPhone unit sales were up 128 percent year over year, and revenue saw a 133 percent increase from the first fiscal quarter of 2011.



The quarter ended with about 6 million iPhones in the channel at the end of the quarter.



"Nearly all of the top companies in the Fortune 500 now approve and support iPhones on their networks," Oppenheimer said.



Companies are developing and deploying "mission critical apps" specifically for their employees.



New companies supporting the iPhone include Credit Suisse, Kimberly Clark, St. Jude Medical, Nike and Facebook.



Cook said Apple made a risky bet on the high side for iPhone sales, and even that came short of actual sales.



"As it turns out, we didn't bet high enough," Cook said. "Our customers are loving iPhone, and we're very happy with that."



Cook said the iPhone 4S was the most popular iPhone model during the quarter, beating out the also-available iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS.



Demand in China has been "staggering." Apple saw strong iPhone sales even in the last quarter, when the iPhone 4S hadn't launched.



Apple's iPad business



The iPad saw a 111 percent increase in unit sales from holiday 2010 to holiday 2011. Revenue from the iPad also saw a 99 percent increase year over year.



iPad was "extremely popular" with holiday buyers, Oppenheimer said, and the company remains excited about the market opportunity.



iPad sales exceeded Apple's expectations, with sell-through exceeding sell-in by about 200,000 units.



"Unprecedented" iPad adoption in business, Oppenheimer said. Nearly all top Fortune 500 companies are actively using iPads.



iPad is also "extremely" popular with students and teachers. 1.5 million iPads already in use in education.



Cook looked at weekly data after the Kindle Fire launch. Not an "obvious effect" on the numbers for iPad plus or minus.



There is "clear" cannibalization of the Mac by the iPad. But he thinks that there's a lot more cannibalization of Windows PCs by the iPad, which makes it a trend he's fine with.



Apple's App Stores



More than 600,000 copies of iBooks Author have been downloaded since it was announced last week.



More than 3 million downloads of the iTunes U application for iOS since last week.



iCloud has more than 85 million customers



550,000 applications available for iOS, including more than 170,000 for iPad.



The App Store has now paid out over $4 billion to developers.



Cook said there will come a time when the tablet market is larger than the PC market.



Tablets already exceeded desktop PC sales in the U.S. last quarter, based on the latest data from IDC.



Doesn't see "limited function" tablets like the Amazon Kindle Fire being in the same category as the iPad. He said Amazon and others will probably sell a "fair number" of units, but people who want an iPad won't settle for the limited function.



Apple's Mac business



Mac desktop sales were up 21 percent year over year, while revenue saw a 12 percent increase.



The MacBook lineup saw even more growth of 28 percent in unit sales, while revenue grew by 22 percent.



Mac sales growth of 26 percent compared to zero growth overall for the entire PC market. Oppenheimer said average weekly Mac sales were up strongly across the quarter.



Oppenheimer cited the MacBook Pro, MacBook Air and iMac as the company's top sellers.



Hard drive prices were higher in the quarter because of the flooding in Thailand. That's expected to continue going into the next quarter, Cook said.



Apple TV business



Apple TV is doing "very well," Cook said, with a bit above 2.8 million units sold last fiscal year. 1.4 million of those came in the most recent quarter.



"We continue to add things to it," Cook said. "If you're using the latest one, I don't know about you, but I couldn't live without it.



Apple's iPod business



iPod unit sales were down 21 percent year over year, with a 26 percent decline in revenue.



Oppenheimer said total iPod sales were ahead of Apple's expectations. iPod U.S. market share remains over 70 percent.



The iPod touch accounts for more than half of all iPod sales.



The CFO revealed that there were more than 140 million downloads of apps and content on Christmas Day.



Apple's regional business segments



Apple saw its largest overseas growth in Japan, where revenue was up 148 percent from the same period in 2010.



Apple's second largest region for revenue growth was the Americas, were revenue was up 92 percent year over year.



Now more than 130,000 points of sale throughout the world, up 35 percent year over year.



After China, Cook sees Brazil as a country where Apple could see major growth in the coming years. He doesn't expect Apple to expand its retail presence into Brazil in the near future however.



Apple's retail business



New EasyPay checkout process with personal pickup have made it much easier for customers and Apple's retail employees.



110 million people visited Apple's stores last quarter. On average, the stores see 22,000 visitors per week.

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  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,471member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    iPhone unit sales were up 128 percent year over year, and revenue saw a 133 percent increase from the first fiscal quarter of 2011.



    Beginning of the end.



    Quote:

    The iPad saw a 111 percent increase in unit sales from holiday 2010 to holiday 2011. Revenue from the iPad also saw a 99 percent increase year over year.



    Better license Android.



    Quote:

    iPod unit sales were down 21 percent year over year, with a 26 percent decline in revenue.



    And now for a serious statement: Sounds like this will be the year of the discontinuation of the iPod classic.
  • tundraboytundraboy Posts: 1,403member
    So much for all the know-it-all tech pundits.



    And I think I heard Tim say iPhone was "supply constrained".
  • lemon bon bon.lemon bon bon. Posts: 2,073member
    Astonishing.



    Lemon Bon Bon.
  • SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 23,627member
    Holy cow. Even more of a blowout than the best estimates.



    Who among the bloggers and analysts came closest this time?
  • macinthe408macinthe408 Posts: 1,050member
    Still, Apple stock will take a hit tomorrow. Remember, investors don't use math; they don't know it very well. Instead, they use guts, which they've plenty of.



    What this all means is that the stock will get pummeled because they think Apple won't be able to do as good NEXT quarter compared to this one. Insane, isn't it? Basing future pessimistic performance potential on optimistic actual present and past performance.



    Investors need to get laid more often.
  • jmmxjmmx Posts: 340member
    "Oppenheimer said Apple executives are "actively discussing" potential uses for its massive cash hoard, but there are no specifics to share"



    You left out one important word: "TODAY" That was at the end of the first time it came up, and again at the end of the second discussion later on.
  • jmmxjmmx Posts: 340member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by macinthe408 View Post


    Still, Apple stock will take a hit tomorrow. Remember, investors don't use math; they don't know it very well. Instead, they use guts, which they've plenty of.



    In after-hours trading:

    Up over $30 - as much as $37 at one point.
  • machead75machead75 Posts: 28member
    Slappy just got slapped!
  • jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    Holy cow. Even more of a blowout than the best estimates.



    Who among the bloggers and analysts came closest this time?



    http://www.technobuffalo.com/compani...2012-earnings/



    For the first time that I recall, even the most optimistic independent analysts missed the numbers.
  • monstrositymonstrosity Posts: 2,026member
    Thanks Apple
  • goodgriefgoodgrief Posts: 137member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacHead75 View Post


    Slappy just got slapped!



    Where is Slapppy today? Its been awful quiet. TS is filling in admirably, but who's going to try to tell us that this is proof that Apple is doomed with a straight face?
  • asterionasterion Posts: 94member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jmmx View Post


    "Oppenheimer said Apple executives are "actively discussing" potential uses for its massive cash hoard, but there are no specifics to share"



    Just got off the phone with Tim. I've agreed to take it off his hands.
  • paulmjohnsonpaulmjohnson Posts: 1,357member
    I'm pleased the Mac is still doing so well. For all the Apple gadgets I have, the Mac is the most important to me.
  • zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 1,794member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post


    I'm pleased the Mac is still doing so well. For all the Apple gadgets I have, the Mac is the most important to me.



    I feel the same way, but the Mac is still becoming a tiny portion of the overall business, which scares me. How much investment will Apple continue to make in the Mac when all the action is on the iPhone and iPad side of the business?



    One example of that is that we haven't heard a thing about the next major upgrade of the Mac OS, have we?
  • aaarrrggghaaarrrgggh Posts: 1,511member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    For the first time that I recall, even the most optimistic independent analysts missed the numbers.



    Yeah... and by no small measure either. The most bullish of the independent's would have made it if they had guessed the gross margin was as high as it was, but just barely. Zacky was 5% low adjusting gross margins.



    I was a little nervous last night how leveraged up I was on Apple--- something like 2.8x, but once I saw them down this morning I knew it would be a great evening!
  • jungmarkjungmark Posts: 5,794member
    What a disappointing 37 million iphone sales number.



    /s



    I bet CNET or anti-Apple sites will have headline of 'Apple falls short of 40 million iphones, $50 billion dollars. Android is catching up."
  • kent909kent909 Posts: 579member
    In anticipation of another dismal financial report from Apple, stock holders drove the stock down $7.00 a share on Tuesday. Go figure!
  • jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post


    I feel the same way, but the Mac is still becoming a tiny portion of the overall business, which scares me. How much investment will Apple continue to make in the Mac when all the action is on the iPhone and iPad side of the business?



    Yet it's still a huge business (many billions of profitable dollars) - and it is the hub of their entire iphone/ipad/ipod/cloud strategy.



    They're not going to abandon Macs any time soon.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post


    One example of that is that we haven't heard a thing about the next major upgrade of the Mac OS, have we?



    So? Would you rather have an OS that's so bad that they need to release a massive restructuring every couple of years to hide how bad the previous version was?



    I'm not sure what I'd even like to see added to Mac OS X. And most of the things that COULD be added are relatively minor for most users.
  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,471member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post


    One example of that is that we haven't heard a thing about the next major upgrade of the Mac OS, have we?



    Because Lion JUST CAME OUT. We won't hear about 10.8 (or, in my opinion, OS XI) until WWDC 2013.
  • jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Because Lion JUST CAME OUT. We won't hear about 10.8 (or, in my opinion, OS XI) until WWDC 2013.



    That's not historically true. In the past, Apple has started talking about new versions of the OS roughly a year after the release of the previous one (sometimes less). That would put it sometime this summer when Apple would start talking about it.



    Bloggers, rumor sites, and even the legitimate press have typically started talking about new versions even before the previous version was released - and that hasn't happened this time around. So there is some truth to the claim that there's no talk about the next OS version - but as I said, I don't see it as an issue. OS X works great and I'm not sure what major changes need to be made.
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