Reports suggest Office for iPad is still coming, despite Microsoft's denial

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  • stelligentstelligent Posts: 2,680member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post




    C'mon guys think about it!

    1. MS needs Office on a Tablet in 2012



    2. We won't see a WOA Windows 8 ARM tablet until 2013, if ever

    3. MS needs Office on a Tablet in 2012




    Whoa there! If Office on iPad precedes WOA, WOA could be DOA.
  • dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 11,220member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mkral View Post


    11. Microsoft needs to slow down Android Tablets as much as possible while they prepare to launch their tablet. Office for iPad (& later Office for Windows Tablets) is the perfect way to do that.



    Exactly right!



    MS has no chance in the next few years of becoming the #1 Tablet, unseating iPad



    MS has an opportunity to become the #2 Tablet if things work out (WOA or x86)



    There is no #3 Tablet... just also rans...





    The MS opportunity is to release as many apps/support services as possible on the iPad and try to migrate those to MS Tablets when available.



    MS gets immediate $ and exposure for Office (regardless of the MS Tablet efforts)



    If MS Tablets fail or too late -- Then MS stil has MS Office on Tablets -- the iPad.
  • dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 11,220member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stelligent View Post


    Whoa there! If Office on iPad precedes WOA, WOA could be DOA.



    I believe WOA is a [poorly defined] placeholder until robust-enough hardware is available (read x86) to run Windows 8 on a tablet -- likely 2014.



    WOA early releases are possible in 2012 -- but usable releases not until 2013.



    Will anyone build WOA tablets or develop apps for them unless MS foots the bill?



    In any case WOA won't be viable this year...



    IMO, Whoa -- WOA is DOA!



    Maybe time for another lateral arabesque at MS,
  • dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 11,220member


    Perhaps MS need a new buzzword...



    From MS -- the company that brought you WIMP, WINCE, Zune...



    We now Offer a new Platform -- Windows On Everything...



    WOE



  • scottkrkscottkrk Posts: 25member
    MS is in a very vulnerable at the moment now is the time for Apple to make a bold move in productivity software to break the MS Office monopoly.



    I am hoping for some big announcements in the next couple of months:



    - A new version of iWork for Mac with closer feature parity with MS Office

    - Seamless iCloud integration across mac, iPad and iPhone.

    - If Apple is really serious just give iWork away every new mac, iPad and iPhone.

    - If Apple is really really serious just give it away to the installed base with a minimum hardware spec (i.e. all iPads, 3GS and newer iPhones, Macs that run Lion) and give people who bought the applications on the app store a credit.



    Now is the time to make some bold moves.
  • andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Apple. Talk about a Microsoft product. In a keynote.



    Sure.



    Here is your crow to eat since you enjoy doing it so often:



    Quote:

    In mid-1997, Steve Jobs gave a keynote address in which he presented a detailed report on the company's status. The keynote featured an appearance by Microsoft CEO Bill Gates by satellite. Jobs announced a partnership with Microsoft comprising several key agreements that, according to Jobs, would benefit Apple and allow it to recover from its prolonged decline during the early and mid 1990s. Two major announcements were made during the keynote: first, that the next major release of Microsoft Office, Office 98, would be developed for the Macintosh, and second, that Microsoft's Internet Explorer web browser would be the default browser on all Macintosh computers.



    And plenty of people don't have a productivity suite. Including several people in my office that use it for work purposes. Why? I don't know. They just use it to read word documents but never edit. Then they edit them on their computer. But these are the same people who email themselves files instead of throwing them in dropbox. If Microsoft Office for the iPad makes people, who otherwise wouldn't have bought another editing/productivity app, buy some. Thats 30% good for Apple. I'll take that.



    Can everyone not pretend this isn't going to be successful just because it's Microsoft?





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scottkrk View Post


    MS is in a very vulnerable at the moment now is the time for Apple to make a bold move in productivity software to break the MS Office monopoly.



    I am hoping for some big announcements in the next couple of months:



    - A new version of iWork for Mac with closer feature parity with MS Office

    - Seamless iCloud integration across mac, iPad and iPhone.

    - If Apple is really serious just give iWork away every new mac, iPad and iPhone.

    - If Apple is really really serious just give it away to the installed base with a minimum hardware spec (i.e. all iPads, 3GS and newer iPhones, Macs that run Lion) and give people who bought the applications on the app store a credit.



    Now is the time to make some bold moves.



    I dont understand this. So give a product away (spend more money to develop excellent software and support it- and in the meantime make nothing) instead of selling a lesser amount of a niche product and getting something, and In the meantime- you can get a 30% cut of Office App sales.



    Just so we're clear- give it away to hurt another company a lot, and hurt your company just a little bit less. Ok....
  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,892member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andysol View Post


    Here is your crow to eat since you enjoy doing it so often:



    You'll notice it hasn't happened since. There's a reason for that.
  • tismotismo Posts: 2member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    You'll notice it hasn't happened since. There's a reason for that.



    Uh, yes it has.



    http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/s...rom-wwdc-2010/



    Both Exchange Server 2010 and Bing were mentioned by Steve Jobs.
  • splash-reversesplash-reverse Posts: 648member
    I'm with him, just like what Apple did with Microsoft Words/Office when they launch the first Mac, they WILL launch iPad 3 WITH Microsoft Office Suite for iPad.





    Then they both will merrily fly over to Europe for the hearing of their (shared) case against Motorola ...
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  • andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    You'll notice it hasn't happened since. There's a reason for that.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tismo View Post


    Uh, yes it has.



    http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/s...rom-wwdc-2010/



    Both Exchange Server 2010 and Bing were mentioned by Steve Jobs.



    Crow entree with crow as dessert.
  • jpellinojpellino Posts: 555member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by scottkrk View Post


    I am hoping for some big announcements in the next couple of months:



    - A new version of iWork for Mac with closer feature parity with MS Office



    I don't care to imagine Keynote hobbled by feature-matching legacy PPT themes.



    Nor do I care to have Pages join Word in treat master items (background PDF letterheads f'rinstance) as lo-res images.



    Have they fixed either of these "features" in Office Mac 2011? I gave up hoping so since 2001, 2004, 2008...



    I've made too many clear, good looking, informative pieces of of work in Pages, only to have someone say "Ooh! Now can you save that as Word?" Yes. Right after I take some power tools and "save" your Jaguar as a Ford Escort. Praise the Lord and pass the Bondo.
  • technarchytechnarchy Posts: 296member
    I don't think the prospect of Office on the iPad is all that odd.



    MSFT has offered software on Mac OS/hardware since the dawn of time.



    It would be an instant best selling app as well. MSFT would make heaps fairly quick off the deal.
  • gatorguygatorguy Posts: 14,322member
    9to5 has an excellent article on what they believe is going on with Office and the iPad. Well worth the read if for no more than to spark discussion.



    http://9to5mac.com/2012/02/23/micros...e/#more-140766
  • timgriff84timgriff84 Posts: 904member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Splash-reverse View Post


    I'm with him, just like what Apple did with Microsoft Words/Office when they launch the first Mac, they WILL launch iPad 3 WITH Microsoft Office Suite for iPad.





    Then they both will merrily fly over to Europe for the hearing of their (shared) case against Motorola ...



    I'm not so certain it's going to happen, but I agree it could. As much as people like to be pro Apple and anti Microsoft. The two companies actually have a good history or working together. How many other big companies has Apple actually managed to successfully partner with?



    They both also naturally fit together as they target different markets. Apple is always high end with hight profit margins so can never take over a whole market, particularly long term. Microsoft caters for everybody else. Both are always better at working together against someone like Google as there in the market at selling devices for a profit, not giving stuff away to make money from search/ads.



    Its in Microsofts interest for the iPad to succeed if only just to stop Android tablets becoming to successful at a price where there isn't enough money for both MS and the hardware partner to make a decent amount from tablet sales.
  • timgriff84timgriff84 Posts: 904member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    9to5 has an excellent article on what they believe is going on with Office and the iPad. Well worth the read if for no more than to spark discussion.



    http://9to5mac.com/2012/02/23/micros...e/#more-140766



    Agree with basically everything that article says!
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