Sophos

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in Third-Party Products edited January 2014
Is Sophos a good anti virus program to use with the Lion OS and a Mac mini? Thanks
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  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,887member
    Absolutely worthless. DO NOT GET ANTI-VIRUS FOR YOUR MAC.



    Doesn't matter what it is. Don't get it.
  • marvfoxmarvfox Posts: 2,275member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Absolutely worthless. DO NOT GET ANTI-VIRUS FOR YOUR MAC.



    Doesn't matter what it is. Don't get it.



    What about what apple recommends is Clam Xva? Thanks
  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,887member
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    Originally Posted by marvfox View Post


    What about what apple recommends is Clam Xva? Thanks



    Don't get it. Apple recommends something? Ha!



    They're all viruses themselves. Anti-virus software IS a virus in OS X. You're just not going to run into any OS X malware unless you're pirating paid software or looking at illegal porn. You'd be more likely to be struck by lightning on your way to cash in your winning PowerBall ticket.
  • marvfoxmarvfox Posts: 2,275member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Absolutely worthless. DO NOT GET ANTI-VIRUS FOR YOUR MAC.



    Doesn't matter what it is. Don't get it.



    Why is Sophos worthless in your opinion?
  • jupiteronejupiterone Posts: 1,553member
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    Originally Posted by marvfox View Post


    Why is Sophos worthless in your opinion?



    Why do you think you need Sophos (or any anti-virus) on a Mac?



    Related story: We run Sophos at my company where I must use a Windows XP machine. Every Thursday at noon, a scan gets kicked off (which I can't disable) and runs at least until 5 when I leave. All afternoon, my machine crawls. I can barely do anything. Now replicate this loss of productivity among the thousands of laptops we have at our company.
  • MarvinMarvin Posts: 13,621member, moderator
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    We run Sophos at my company where I must use a Windows XP machine. Every Thursday at noon, a scan gets kicked off (which I can't disable) and runs at least until 5 when I leave. All afternoon, my machine crawls. I can barely do anything. Now replicate this loss of productivity among the thousands of laptops we have at our company.



    I don't understand why anti-virus programs do this. They should keep timestamps of all updated files since the previous scan - if a virus attaches itself to another file, its timestamp would update. Each scan should take about 5 minutes. I don't know why anti-virus apps insist on scanning over and over.



    I'd only run an AV app if I suspected there was some abnormal activity, slowdown or after installing untrusted software, I'd never have one running in the background. ClamX AV is a capable app but I'd just run it once and keep it shut down.
  • jupiteronejupiterone Posts: 1,553member
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    Originally Posted by Marvin View Post


    I don't understand why anti-virus programs do this. They should keep timestamps of all updated files since the previous scan - if a virus attaches itself to another file, its timestamp would update. Each scan should take about 5 minutes. I don't know why anti-virus apps insist on scanning over and over.



    I'd only run an AV app if I suspected there was some abnormal activity, slowdown or after installing untrusted software, I'd never have one running in the background. ClamX AV is a capable app but I'd just run it once and keep it shut down.



    It's a company policy. They have it as a Windows Scheduled Task that we cannot change. Apparently desktops run in the middle of the night, but they want to run laptops at noon since they are most likely powered on at that time. Unfortunately, I'm trying to actually USE it at that time.
  • marvfoxmarvfox Posts: 2,275member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JupiterOne View Post


    It's a company policy. They have it as a Windows Scheduled Task that we cannot change. Apparently desktops run in the middle of the night, but they want to run laptops at noon since they are most likely powered on at that time. Unfortunately, I'm trying to actually USE it at that time.



    I did download Sophos today and it scanned over three hundred and 30 thousand files and it said nothreats whereas I used Clam Xva and it said 4 trojans I had and it crashed 11 times yesterday. I deleted it. Thanks marv
  • egraregrar Posts: 29member
    http://support.apple.com/downloads/



    Apple does allow antimalware - antivirus on their machines, since the advent of intel processors on apple macs, converting codes to create from windows viruses to Apple will be a lot easier.. If you use your Apple machines to do online transactions, better have a good malware protection, Sophos is a good one, I'm a Windows-Linux-Mac OS X user, and this clearly shows that Apple also relies on Linux security concerns



    " Apple also works very closely with the FreeBSD Security team to analyze and release patches for security vulnerabilities."



    https://ssl.apple.com/support/security/



    I use Bitdefender for Linux / Mac OS X Lion, it wont hurt your system to use it, and I use Sophos for on-demand access scanning, that loads the antivirus and actively scans every downloaded stuff from the internet.. it scans your cookies and internet caches..
  • egraregrar Posts: 29member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by marvfox View Post


    I did download Sophos today and it scanned over three hundred and 30 thousand files and it said nothreats whereas I used Clam Xva and it said 4 trojans I had and it crashed 11 times yesterday. I deleted it. Thanks marv



    Check it out here. http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/, since apple modifies unix to its own gain, Mac OS is same as Windows, which is entirely closed-source, using an open source progam is a feat for open source programmers to create a program to work efficiently on a such system, ClamAV is a good 'nix antivirus.
  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,887member
    Contrary to what egrar has said, you don't need it.



    Don't get one. Don't install one. Don't use one. Don't even think about one.
  • marvfoxmarvfox Posts: 2,275member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Contrary to what egrar has said, you don't need it.



    Don't get one. Don't install one. Don't use one. Don't even think about one.



    Why are you so adamant about this software?
  • marvfoxmarvfox Posts: 2,275member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by egrar View Post


    http://support.apple.com/downloads/



    Apple does allow antimalware - antivirus on their machines, since the advent of intel processors on apple macs, converting codes to create from windows viruses to Apple will be a lot easier.. If you use your Apple machines to do online transactions, better have a good malware protection, Sophos is a good one, I'm a Windows-Linux-Mac OS X user, and this clearly shows that Apple also relies on Linux security concerns



    " Apple also works very closely with the FreeBSD Security team to analyze and release patches for security vulnerabilities."



    https://ssl.apple.com/support/security/



    I use Bitdefender for Linux / Mac OS X Lion, it wont hurt your system to use it, and I use Sophos for on-demand access scanning, that loads the antivirus and actively scans every downloaded stuff from the internet.. it scans your cookies and internet caches..



    It is good and scans everything on your hard drive and it is free.
  • egraregrar Posts: 29member
    Here's a good site, http://www.virusbtn.com , if you need to know more about AntiViruses, which one is real and which one is not, which one works better. I am not saying you have to install an AntiVirus to your Mac but.. who else will suffer the most when one gets a virus, a trojan or a malware.. who will say, hey thats a malware site... your guts? ESP



    I recently bought an Apple Mac Book Pro mid 2011 edition, just before the latest Apple Mac trojan outbreak.. I wanted one for years then this happens... oh well, I already knew about how vulnerable every system is anyway, and this is just the beginning..
  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,887member
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    Originally Posted by marvfox View Post


    Why are you so adamant about this software?



    Because I'm right. OS X needs no protection. YOU are the best line of defense because NOTHING is going to install on its own.



    Trust us. You do not need anything.



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    Originally Posted by egrar View Post


    Here's a good site



    Why do you insist on spamming here? If you can make a post that doesn't have a link to a separate site, I'll consider not banning you. Your outlook isn't too good right now.
  • egraregrar Posts: 29member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Because I'm right. OS X needs no protection. YOU are the best line of defense because NOTHING is going to install on its own.



    Trust us. You do not need anything.







    Why do you insist on spamming here? If you can make a post that doesn't have a link to a separate site, I'll consider not banning you. Your outlook isn't too good right now.



    My mistake for posting sites, won't happen again, forgot to see that your a moderator here, .

    But I THOUGHT this section deals about third-party products? Anyway just wanted to help here..



    I guess I have proven my point here..
  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,887member
    Thanks for the human reply; almost made something of a mistake there.



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    My mistake for posting sites, won't happen again



    It's fine as long as you're not schilling for them. Feel free to post them as reference or such, but don't make your posts look like ads. Sets my internal spam sensors off.



    Quote:

    I guess I have proven my point here..



    That anti-virus is unnecessary, yes.
  • egraregrar Posts: 29member


    That I have proven, that there is no system is perfect or malware proof.

  • marvfoxmarvfox Posts: 2,275member


    You are right.

  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,887member

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    Originally Posted by egrar View Post

    That I have proven, that there is no system is perfect or malware proof.


     


    Except the only malware that will ever affect OS X is stuff you install yourself. Anti-virus software won't save you from yourself. It can only pick up the pieces once YOU have done the damage.


     


    Be intelligent enough not to install every little thing that comes your way and you will never need it for any reason ever.


     


    Another personal anecdote that you will ignore: In the nearly twenty years I've used the "modern" Internet, not once have I ever downloaded anything, nor has anything shown up on my computer having auto-downloaded, that I didn't recognize as safe.


     


    This. Stuff. Just. Doesn't. Exist out there. I don't know what dank corner of the Internet you'd have to visit to even FIND this stuff, but you can go just about anywhere and never even SEE anything REMOTELY close to malware for OS X.

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