Production of Apple television expected to begin in May/June for late 2012 launch

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  • Reply 21 of 73
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    Originally Posted by NotTooShabby View Post


    It may be a trend they'll expand to the iphone but keep in mind that the ipod lineup has always been numberless... so, it's no guarantee that the iphone, after sooo many generations of numeric names would drop it's name now.



    I agree that people saying the next iPhone will necessarily be called simply "iPhone" or "the new iPhone" don't really have any evidence to base that belief on.



    On the other hand, while Apple has been using numbers for most iPhone releases so far, the numbers rarely if ever correspond to the version of the phone, so even if they continue with numbers no one can really say what the next number or letter combination will be.



    Out of all the possibilities however, iPhone 5 is probably the most unlikely choice of all and no one with any real knowledge of the industry would use it, so the original criticism is still apt.
  • Reply 22 of 73
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
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    Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


    On the other hand, while Apple has been using numbers for most iPhone releases so far, the numbers rarely if ever correspond to the version of the phone...



    The iPhone 4 is the 4th generation iPhone. No other iPhone was appended with a lone number.
  • Reply 23 of 73
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    Apple appears to have chosen the 'A5X' name because the CPU is unchanged while there's more RAM and more GPU cores. If they change the CPU itself, they will probably change the numeric designator.



    But why would they make a new processor for the iPhone? The iPhone gets the die shrink of that year's iPad processor, so it'll get an A5X, too.
  • Reply 24 of 73
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
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    Originally Posted by tundraboy View Post


    Or performing production test runs. Testing the production process rather than the product itself.



    That's what I thought, too.



    On the eternal naming issue - the reason Apple will not name the increments of a product is partially because by not doing so will give journalists, bloggers and pundits alike another thing to endlessly discuss, which in turn translates to free marketing.
  • Reply 25 of 73
    charlitunacharlituna Posts: 7,217member
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    Originally Posted by RedGeminiPA View Post


    I don't take rumors seriously from anyone who's still calling the NEXT iPhone the iPhone 5.



    Agreed. There is no logic to using the number 5. It is the sixth model release, and if the shape is redesigned the 4th form.



    If they give it a tag beyond a (xx) it will be 4g or lte, not a flat number
  • Reply 26 of 73
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Mhmm. And we're definitely going to see the iPhone nano before Christmas, too.







    I'm waiting for the iPhone shuffle - randomly conferences in different people over the course of a call.
  • Reply 27 of 73
    charlitunacharlituna Posts: 7,217member
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    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    I couldn't care less about the name.



    On the processor, though, I wouldn't be surprised if the next iPhone does, indeed, have an A6 processor.




    To what end. What would make a higher CPU needed in the phone. The highest load is graphics and the A5x has offloaded that to the better gpu. Frankly I think Apple is looking at the iPad as the computer killer, not the iPhone. So the iPad will likely led, not follow, on processor/SoC upgrades
  • Reply 28 of 73
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    Originally Posted by Woodlink View Post


    It will look a bit out of place for someone to back their pickup truck to an Apple store to load their 50" Apple TV.



    What seems as an obvious evolution to create such a product, just feels so disconnected to me.



    I'll believe it when I see it.



    Or see it when I believe it.



    The more I think about it, the less likely I believe Apple will produce a TV. IMHO, the recent changes to the ATV interface don't really evidence a deep commitment to TV on Apple's part in general - meaning, a lot of people here (myself included) were underwhelmed by both the ATV3 and the new interface; neither seemed to evidence that "generational leap" for which Apple's so highly regarded. It just doesn't seem like the next step after the ATV3 is an integrated TV set itself.
  • Reply 29 of 73
    kent909kent909 Posts: 731member
    This is the first Apple TV review I have decided to believe. Reason: No reference was made to Walter Isaacsons book and Steve Jobs quote "I finally cracked it".

  • Reply 30 of 73
    rtm135rtm135 Posts: 310member
    I know Steve hated them, but if the TV doesn't include an integrated CableCard, then people would still need an external box. And I thought the whole point of AppleTV was simplicity. So hopefully everything is included so all my TV watching options are covered.



    If they really wanted to be forward thinking, they'd include an integrated Tru2Way card so things like VoD would work.
  • Reply 31 of 73
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    But why would they make a new processor for the iPhone? The iPhone gets the die shrink of that year's iPad processor, so it'll get an A5X, too.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by charlituna View Post


    To what end. What would make a higher CPU needed in the phone. The highest load is graphics and the A5x has offloaded that to the better gpu. Frankly I think Apple is looking at the iPad as the computer killer, not the iPhone. So the iPad will likely led, not follow, on processor/SoC upgrades



    While a faster CPU would have made more sense on the iPad, Apple has also increased the performance on the iPhone when technology allowed. The technology keeps improving and after some time period, going to a newer technology doesn't cost you any more than you paid for the old technology.



    Furthermore, the extra GPUs are of less value on the iPhone than on the iPad due to the number of pixels. I could, for example, see the next iPhone having 4 CPU cores (or 2 much faster CPU cores) and only 2 GPU cores to reduce energy consumption. Then, the 2013 iPad would have the same CPU as the then-current iPhone but would have twice the GPU cores to make up for the added pixels.
  • Reply 32 of 73
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    The iPhone 4 is the 4th generation iPhone. No other iPhone was appended with a lone number.



    Pretty sure that was part of my point.
  • Reply 33 of 73
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rtm135 View Post


    I know Steve hated them, but if the TV doesn't include an integrated CableCard, then people would still need an external box. And I thought the whole point of AppleTV was simplicity. So hopefully everything is included so all my TV watching options are covered.



    If they really wanted to be forward thinking, they'd include an integrated Tru2Way card so things like VoD would work.



    I'm guessing it won't - you'll still have to plug your box in to the back. Which means you will have two interfaces, but as more content becomes available through Apple, more people will do without regular cable content. At a certain point the tide will turn for real and the set-top box will be a thing of the past.
  • Reply 34 of 73
    esummersesummers Posts: 953member
    I heard he just increased the price target by $0.99 to 699.99. He stated the key is to keep the estimate just under $700 to reduce the effect of skepticism that a company can really defy the economy.
  • Reply 35 of 73
    You just want the new buyer to ask for an iPhone, then they are shown the buy in points and make a choice.



    It is far better that way, instead of feeling deflated cause they choose the older one (indicated to them by the model number), they feel successful/wiser or whatever because they selected the model they can afford and still have an iPhone.



    Nothing like getting your customer to haggle price themselves between your products, it stops them needing to do it against other brands or between other shops. I have used the strategy successfully by offering two pricing models for the same services, the prospect then played the value propositions off each other and most of the time went the one that made us more profit because in their mind it had the opportunity for them to pay less overall.



    It addresses a psychological need.
  • Reply 36 of 73
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    But why would they make a new processor for the iPhone? The iPhone gets the die shrink of that year's iPad processor, so it'll get an A5X, too.



    The A5X doesn't have a new CPU. It appears to be the same in every major way except for a doubling of two components that need to run the display.



    By this Autumn I think we're set for a new chip that is higher performance while using less power.
  • Reply 37 of 73
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    But Apple also didn't keep old iPods (or Macs) as new products after the new ones dropped. The iPhone (and now the iPad) are the only ones that have done that.



    I do hope they drop the numbers. I think people understand the year-old device is cheaper concept.



    That said, I think you may have missed his point about calling the 6th generation iPhone the iPhone 5.









    2X on RAM and GPU seems the most likely reason to call it A5X to me.



    During the New iPad introduction, Cook said that the X stood for the 4 Core GPU
  • Reply 38 of 73
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
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    Originally Posted by Solar Saves View Post


    During the New iPad introduction, Cook said that the X stood for the 4 Core GPU



    Which is 2X more GPU cores than before.
  • Reply 39 of 73
    shaun, ukshaun, uk Posts: 1,050member
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    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    He expects the full-fledged television set to launch in the fourth quarter of calendar 2012.



    Not long to wait then



    Of course he could be just talking it up in order to propel the share price higher and make a lot of money for his clients, but that would be unethical.



    I wonder if it doesn't appear in Q4 he will come out and say that Apple had component and/or production problems delaying the release until next year?



    Do many people buy a new TV for Christmas? I always thought they launched new TVs around major TV events like the Olympics or the World Cup (football/soccer).
  • Reply 40 of 73
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    Originally Posted by GTR View Post


    My Samsung flat screen TV caught me reading this article and now it's all nervous.



    And so it should be.



    So it should be.



    That's just nuts. Samsung is Apple's only hope to manufacture products.



    Did you hear the latest?



    Quote:

    Samsung to Supply Apple With IPad Screen After LG, Sharp Miss Requirements



    http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...n-for-new-ipad



    Without Samsung, Apple would be in DEEP trouble.
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