Parents complain Amazon's Kindle Fire gives kids access to porn, accounts

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  • bongobongo Posts: 158member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DrDoppio View Post


    If you remove your saved cards from your amazon account, nobody will be able to make any purchases and the Kindle should still work. I guess someone made this suggestion earlier in the thread, but I can't be bothered to read through it.



    Sure...sure. But lets not lose site of the fact that a $199 e-reader/tablet pales in comparison to a $499+ iPad.
  • docno42docno42 Posts: 3,164member
    Wow - we go from Steve being completely off base and a "prude" for his comments on porn in the app store to this story.



    Shocking
  • jlanddjlandd Posts: 862member
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    Originally Posted by strobe View Post


    In related news, sales of the Kindle Fire rose 500%



    And in an update to related news, many are being returned : )



    NY Times.com 2011/12/12/ article on problems with Kindle Fire
  • solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jlandd View Post


    And in an update to related news, many are being returned : )



    NY Times.com 2011/12/12/ article on problems with Kindle Fire



    It does look like they rushed the device to market, though they did choose a good time to release the device. A few years ago releasing a product with a low grade user experience would have been okay, but Apple has set the bar and even though no one rational expects the Fire to work like the iPad they do expect a minimum user experience that has been set by not just the iPad, but also by the iPhone and iPod Touch, and to a less degree the other iPods.



    There is an update to the Fire slated for 2 weeks. For their sake I hope this resolves much of the UX issues.
  • apple ][apple ][ Posts: 8,342member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jlandd View Post


    And in an update to related news, many are being returned : )



    NY Times.com 2011/12/12/ article on problems with Kindle Fire



    That's exactly what i saying was going to happen to the Kindle Fire weeks ago.



    First of all, the media was very irresponsible in hyping that product as an iPad alternative, and people were suckers for believing in the hype. Many people ordered it on pure blind faith alone.
  • jlanddjlandd Posts: 862member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    There is an update to the Fire slated for 2 weeks. For their sake I hope this resolves much of the UX issues.





    I seriously doubt this update (the one in claimed coming in two weeks) is going to tackle any performance issues in any real way. It'll just be some band-aids. It will likely just be addressing some of these complaints named in the article (such as the history issue mentioned, and some interface improvements) but I can't imagine the fudginess of the touchscreen (and overall experience) can be lessened enough with a software update to make an unhappy user satisfied.



    I haven't had the chance to try one, but browsing on the Nook Tablet sure isn't any fun. I don't think either will be a passable experience for web browsing until the next hardware versions, if then.
  • simtubsimtub Posts: 276member
    NYT Article - 'As Kindle Fire Faces Critics, Remedies Are Promised'



    Kindle Fire = Second Rate, rushed to market product...
  • absolutedesignzabsolutedesignz Posts: 1,930member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    KindlePorn... That's what you get when you Fork Android



    lol I read that sooo wrong...
  • carpemananacarpemanana Posts: 1member
    "It's completely inexcusable on any platform that something like that would be allowed, and, on a personal note, I've always hated the idea of 'in-app purchases'."



    The thing most parents don't realize is that on iOS devices EVEN with Safari disabled (as well as 'Installing Apps" disabled so they can't just download some other wide open browser) there are many, many apps (seemingly content-neutral ones like the Weather Channel app, for pete's sake) with built-in browsers where kids can instantly go anywhere and see anything on the web with NO filtering and No record at all of that taking place.



    So to keep their kids from pornography (or other adult content like violence, adult language, etc.) these parents eventually figure out that they can't purchase ANY apps with built-in browsers and that they have to delete EVERY single app they already have if it has a built-in browser anywhere in it. It doesn't make sense that Apple allows all these in-app browsers when:



    1) Apps with built-in browsers completely ignore and neutralize Apple's browser Parental Controls or 'Restrictions' settings.

    2) This problem inevitably decreases app sales revenue, in-app purchases, and even advertising revenue because if these apps didn't create a potential problem for their kids, so many adult parents would definitely prefer to purchase, keep and use those apps for themselves rather than having to delete them from all the iOS devices their kids might play on at some point.

    3) There are already a number of apps where, if Safari has been disabled in Apple's 'Restrictions' setting, when you click on an ad or on any live 'hyperlink' anywhere in the app it just doesn't do anything (except offer to 'copy' the hyperlink address into memory so that you can go paste into an email or text message).



    Apple should just make #3 the app design standard/requirement and then their 'Parental Controls' or 'Restrictions' would actually be more than a paper thin protection, especially since kids will always be more technologically savvy than most parents, however involved and intentional those parents are determined to be! \
  • mikeb85mikeb85 Posts: 506member
    Parents should spend more time educating and parenting their children then blaming others for their own lack of vigilance.



    While Amazon might consider it an opportunity to put parental controls in future versions of the Kindle Fire, it's not their fault these parents have failed to properly raise their children.



    Individuals need to take responsibility for their own actions, and quit blaming others...
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