More of a driver's ERROR than any fault from his car! Talking about reckless stupidity, even if he drives a Ferrari--same thing will happen...he needs to change his bad driving attitude!
I already stated it was driver error.
However, my experience with racing and seeing which type of drivers wreck cars its usually the guys in the M3's or similar cars. Vehicles that are very highly rated in their class that people buy simply because the M3 always wins the performance sedan shootouts in the magazines. This causes these people to be more likely to over extend their abilities simply because they have a false sense of how superior their car is.
It's the same with SUV drivers who seem to think they can drive normal speeds on snowy or icy roads since their SUV is more "capable" than the average car.
You are RIGHT, it's great that Apple's reaping the rewards for its great products but
their incredibly high PROFIT MARGIN isn't great for us CUSTOMERS who pay a hefty PRICE TAG for the gadgets.
They're worth well over $500 BIL.. you think they give a flying eff about us Apple customers?
This was all explained a few pages back. How can you say their prices are "hefty" when their most popular products (iPhone and iPad) are priced similarly to other competing products on the market?
It's not Apple's fault that they are far more efficient at making products than everybody else is.
You better believe they care about customers. If you treat your customers like $hit then you will soon find your customers going to your competitors. Treating your customers well and providing them with products they like is what put all that $$$ in Apple's pockets in the first place.
You are RIGHT, it's great that Apple's reaping the rewards for its great products but their incredibly high PROFIT MARGIN isn't great for us CUSTOMERS who pay a hefty PRICE TAG for the gadgets.
If it's too expensive, don't buy it.
Go grab yourself a great value Samsung Hyundai.
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Originally Posted by griffith9
They're worth well over $500 BIL.. you think they give a flying eff about us Apple customers?
The Android OEM that copies Apple SHAMELESSLY - LOL right down to the very packaging, is also the one enjoying the most success. Shocker!
Samsung's CEO should get down on hands and knees, like a good little follower, and thank Apple for June 2007 and January 2010. Two dates which defined the industry's roadmap for the next decade.
Those are just assertions made by the plaintiff. Trial has yet to officially start or the final verdict has been announced.
Until then, all of those are your opinions. And we all know what happens to opinions...
SEE how the scores of Kia and Hyundai went down dramatically as the cars get older--they are just good for a maximum 5 years, and then they go straight to the junk yard, whereas a BMW/Toyota can run forever for their great engines and engineering--AND that explains WHY--Korean products have NO RESALE VALUE!
RESIDUAL value is NOT equal to RESALE VALUE! Wait after 5 years, and see how much that cost!
BTW...those are PR from Hyundai...LOL!
TRUTH hurts...BUT it cures!
Perhaps some reading comprehension is in store for you.
READ.
Hyundai isnt the organization who creates these values. It's a third party who creates it and reports in their publication. Hyundai is just reporting through their communications channels. I expected better from you. I guess I was wrong.
By the way, Beamer drivers are all posers. They cant drive for crap and they never use turn signals. Lazy bums who would rather die than lift a finger to indicate their intent to others.
I said WAIT after 5 years and see its BELOW AVERAGE RESALE VALUE---AGAIN, AGAIN--RESIDUAL VALUE IS NOT RESALE VALUE...ARE YOU DENSE?
You seem to be so assured of your predictions.
People and companies change. With the forward momentum of Hyundai and the changing times, it seems like it is leaving behind your old way of thinking in the 1990's. Just to remind you, its the year 2012.
I've heard countless critics who boasted that "Hyundai will never make it in the US" or "Hyundai will never break 500,000 sales in the US". Both predictions were slashed to bits. I'm afraid yours is next.
Plus, Hyundai just recently announced that they had the lowest incentive spending in the industry of less than $1000. Also, their fleets sales have dipped down below 10% in recent months.
Also, here is another treat to your "resale/residual value" bashing.
Customer retention is not really a very helpful statistic.
Let's say you're in the market for a $40,000 car. You have a lot of options to choose from - and even a lot of comparable options. If I want a good quality, comfortable, mid-sized sedan for $40,000, I have a dozen or more choices.
OTOH, if you 'only' have $60 K to spend and want a full blown luxury vehicle, the Equus may be your only choice. Even on the low end, Hyundai vehicles are generally priced considerably lower than most of the competition. So 'high customer retention' may simply mean 'our customers are consistently looking for a cheap car and we don't have as much competition in that space'.
That's not to say that Hyundai vehicles are bad. They certainly seem to offer decent value in the markets where they compete. But you can't really use customer retention as evidence of that.
i love samsung products, i have their tv & bluray player, they make great panels, apple uses them, they cant come up with ideas to save themselves tho
i woundnt get a phone off them, people on here are freakin weird, hating on a company, they are a big company that isnt just in the phone/tablet market & everything else they do is pretty damn good, they should leave phones tablets & laptops for apple tho
I have a 3 year old samsung 42 inch tv. What a POS. It crashes and has to be turned off and back on almost every time you switch channels. NO SHIT! the sound goes out constantly and the interface is a fucking joke. Never samesung again
You might want to work on your reading comprehension. The source is /PRNewswire/ (and Kelly Blue Book before that). Hyundai America simply quoted the original source.
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Originally Posted by MJ4Ev3r
Anyhow, convince yourself okay, to me Korean-made products are just cheaper COPYCAT versions of the REAL THING!
Generalizations are usually wrong.
SOME Korean products are cheaper copycat versions of the real thing. But pretending that is true often enough to use it as an overriding rule is just plain wrong.
Using cars as an example is not a very useful starting point. AFAICS, all of the car manufacturers look like each other - at least partly because of the recent push toward better fuel economy which requires the best aerodynamics they can produce. Look at Motor Trend or Car and Driver's reviews where they compare 5 or 6 cars in each category. Without reading the caption, I find it hard to tell which is which - which is a far cry from when I was growing up. Back then, the cars were different enough that you could tell at a glance which was which. And, often, there were design clues that would give you a pretty good idea of the manufacturer even if you had never seen the car before. But it's not limited to the Koreans.
Anyhow, convince yourself okay, to me Korean-made products are just cheaper COPYCAT versions of the REAL THING!
You really need some serious work on your reading comprehension buddy.
So in your mind, those 55" OLED TVs are also "COPYCAT" versions too right? It's never done before. As long as its Korean, even if it was never done before, its a copy cat.
I personally think you have something against Koreans in general. You are filled with hatred against a nationality. You should get help. School is the first step.
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Apple paid Samsung to produce the components. Samsung is just one of the slaves that happened to produce many of iPhone's components.
As Samsung produces most of the component, and sell higher than Apple, don't you think Samsung margin on smart phone is bigger?
Nonesense..
Samsung's R&D produced the high-end technology that goes into wonderful gadgets like the iPhone.
The quality of iphone's components is there because of Samsung.
You think Samsung = Foxconn... you're a fool.
Samsung isn't great at product designs, I'll give you that but there are some unique exceptions like
Galaxy Note.
You are RIGHT, it's great that Apple's reaping the rewards for its great products but
their incredibly high PROFIT MARGIN isn't great for us CUSTOMERS who pay a hefty PRICE TAG for the gadgets.
They're worth well over $500 BIL.. you think they give a flying eff about us Apple customers?
More of a driver's ERROR than any fault from his car! Talking about reckless stupidity, even if he drives a Ferrari--same thing will happen...he needs to change his bad driving attitude!
I already stated it was driver error.
However, my experience with racing and seeing which type of drivers wreck cars its usually the guys in the M3's or similar cars. Vehicles that are very highly rated in their class that people buy simply because the M3 always wins the performance sedan shootouts in the magazines. This causes these people to be more likely to over extend their abilities simply because they have a false sense of how superior their car is.
It's the same with SUV drivers who seem to think they can drive normal speeds on snowy or icy roads since their SUV is more "capable" than the average car.
You are RIGHT, it's great that Apple's reaping the rewards for its great products but
their incredibly high PROFIT MARGIN isn't great for us CUSTOMERS who pay a hefty PRICE TAG for the gadgets.
They're worth well over $500 BIL.. you think they give a flying eff about us Apple customers?
This was all explained a few pages back. How can you say their prices are "hefty" when their most popular products (iPhone and iPad) are priced similarly to other competing products on the market?
It's not Apple's fault that they are far more efficient at making products than everybody else is.
You better believe they care about customers. If you treat your customers like $hit then you will soon find your customers going to your competitors. Treating your customers well and providing them with products they like is what put all that $$$ in Apple's pockets in the first place.
You are RIGHT, it's great that Apple's reaping the rewards for its great products but their incredibly high PROFIT MARGIN isn't great for us CUSTOMERS who pay a hefty PRICE TAG for the gadgets.
If it's too expensive, don't buy it.
Go grab yourself a great value Samsung Hyundai.
They're worth well over $500 BIL.. you think they give a flying eff about us Apple customers?
Yep. I most definitely think they do.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20...-for-8th-year/
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/a...ce-again/14890
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/09/a...-grim-reading/
http://allthingsd.com/20110920/apple...-survey-again/
Bring up the Samsung equivalent of THAT.
Taste's are subjective so too judge someone based on what you think is good taste is foolish and ignorant.
here's a poor guy who donated his kidneys to buy an iphone and an iPad--unreal, BUT at least he has impeccable tastes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...usaolp00000003
The Android OEM that copies Apple SHAMELESSLY - LOL right down to the very packaging, is also the one enjoying the most success. Shocker!
Samsung's CEO should get down on hands and knees, like a good little follower, and thank Apple for June 2007 and January 2010. Two dates which defined the industry's roadmap for the next decade.
Those are just assertions made by the plaintiff. Trial has yet to officially start or the final verdict has been announced.
Until then, all of those are your opinions. And we all know what happens to opinions...
SEE how the scores of Kia and Hyundai went down dramatically as the cars get older--they are just good for a maximum 5 years, and then they go straight to the junk yard, whereas a BMW/Toyota can run forever for their great engines and engineering--AND that explains WHY--Korean products have NO RESALE VALUE!
Right...
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...dex-16518.html
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...133962293.html
Seems like the purpose of most of your posts are to create mis-information.
What is your agenda?
Right...
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...dex-16518.html
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...133962293.html
RESIDUAL value is NOT equal to RESALE VALUE! Wait after 5 years, and see how much that cost!
BTW...those are PR from Hyundai...LOL!
TRUTH hurts...BUT it cures!
RESIDUAL value is NOT equal to RESALE VALUE! Wait after 5 years, and see how much that cost!
BTW...those are PR from Hyundai...LOL!
TRUTH hurts...BUT it cures!
Perhaps some reading comprehension is in store for you.
READ.
Hyundai isnt the organization who creates these values. It's a third party who creates it and reports in their publication. Hyundai is just reporting through their communications channels. I expected better from you. I guess I was wrong.
By the way, Beamer drivers are all posers. They cant drive for crap and they never use turn signals. Lazy bums who would rather die than lift a finger to indicate their intent to others.
http://wot.motortrend.com/jd-power-s...ig-157447.html
How are those PR from Hyundai, it's from ALG the industry leader in residual value determination.
Here's another one for you.
JD Power Says Hyundai First in Customer Retention 2012
http://wot.motortrend.com/jd-power-s...ig-157447.html
I know, Hyundai paid bribes to JD Power right?
I said WAIT after 5 years and see its BELOW AVERAGE RESALE VALUE---AGAIN, AGAIN--RESIDUAL VALUE IS NOT RESALE VALUE...ARE YOU DENSE?
I said WAIT after 5 years and see its BELOW AVERAGE RESALE VALUE---AGAIN, AGAIN--RESIDUAL VALUE IS NOT RESALE VALUE...ARE YOU DENSE?
You seem to be so assured of your predictions.
People and companies change. With the forward momentum of Hyundai and the changing times, it seems like it is leaving behind your old way of thinking in the 1990's. Just to remind you, its the year 2012.
I've heard countless critics who boasted that "Hyundai will never make it in the US" or "Hyundai will never break 500,000 sales in the US". Both predictions were slashed to bits. I'm afraid yours is next.
Plus, Hyundai just recently announced that they had the lowest incentive spending in the industry of less than $1000. Also, their fleets sales have dipped down below 10% in recent months.
Also, here is another treat to your "resale/residual value" bashing.
http://www.prlog.org/11468415-hyunda...-or-honda.html
I said WAIT after 5 years and see its BELOW AVERAGE RESALE VALUE---AGAIN, AGAIN--RESIDUAL VALUE IS NOT RESALE VALUE...ARE YOU DENSE?
You seem to suffer from serious reading deficiency, the article I linked has nothing to do with residual or resale value.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...133957448.html
JD Power Says Hyundai First in Customer Retention 2012
http://wot.motortrend.com/jd-power-s...ig-157447.html
Customer retention is not really a very helpful statistic.
Let's say you're in the market for a $40,000 car. You have a lot of options to choose from - and even a lot of comparable options. If I want a good quality, comfortable, mid-sized sedan for $40,000, I have a dozen or more choices.
OTOH, if you 'only' have $60 K to spend and want a full blown luxury vehicle, the Equus may be your only choice. Even on the low end, Hyundai vehicles are generally priced considerably lower than most of the competition. So 'high customer retention' may simply mean 'our customers are consistently looking for a cheap car and we don't have as much competition in that space'.
That's not to say that Hyundai vehicles are bad. They certainly seem to offer decent value in the markets where they compete. But you can't really use customer retention as evidence of that.
i love samsung products, i have their tv & bluray player, they make great panels, apple uses them, they cant come up with ideas to save themselves tho
i woundnt get a phone off them, people on here are freakin weird, hating on a company, they are a big company that isnt just in the phone/tablet market & everything else they do is pretty damn good, they should leave phones tablets & laptops for apple tho
I have a 3 year old samsung 42 inch tv. What a POS. It crashes and has to be turned off and back on almost every time you switch channels. NO SHIT! the sound goes out constantly and the interface is a fucking joke. Never samesung again
Here's one with the Best Resale Value Award
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...133957448.html
Yeah and the SOURCE is Hyundai America--PR AGAIN!
Anyhow, convince yourself okay, to me Korean-made products are just cheaper COPYCAT versions of the REAL THING!
Yeah and the SOURCE is Hyundai America--PR AGAIN!
You might want to work on your reading comprehension. The source is /PRNewswire/ (and Kelly Blue Book before that). Hyundai America simply quoted the original source.
Anyhow, convince yourself okay, to me Korean-made products are just cheaper COPYCAT versions of the REAL THING!
Generalizations are usually wrong.
SOME Korean products are cheaper copycat versions of the real thing. But pretending that is true often enough to use it as an overriding rule is just plain wrong.
Using cars as an example is not a very useful starting point. AFAICS, all of the car manufacturers look like each other - at least partly because of the recent push toward better fuel economy which requires the best aerodynamics they can produce. Look at Motor Trend or Car and Driver's reviews where they compare 5 or 6 cars in each category. Without reading the caption, I find it hard to tell which is which - which is a far cry from when I was growing up. Back then, the cars were different enough that you could tell at a glance which was which. And, often, there were design clues that would give you a pretty good idea of the manufacturer even if you had never seen the car before. But it's not limited to the Koreans.
Yeah and the SOURCE is Hyundai America--PR AGAIN!
Anyhow, convince yourself okay, to me Korean-made products are just cheaper COPYCAT versions of the REAL THING!
You really need some serious work on your reading comprehension buddy.
So in your mind, those 55" OLED TVs are also "COPYCAT" versions too right? It's never done before. As long as its Korean, even if it was never done before, its a copy cat.
I personally think you have something against Koreans in general. You are filled with hatred against a nationality. You should get help. School is the first step.
here's a poor guy who donated his kidneys to buy an iphone and an iPad--unreal, BUT at least he has impeccable tastes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...usaolp00000003
Yeah, and that poor kid is near death now. You see the irrationality of Apple fanbois now?