You apple fans are truly hypocrites. Apple and the apple lovers clearly came out and spoke out against the larger screened Android devices of past and present. Apple said on numerous occasions that the note series and all larger android devices were a mockery. Now apple decides to say F it,let's make a phablet with 2-3 year old technology but slap iOS 8 in it and sell it for $500 on contract and a $1000 off contract for max gb's.
Then let's not make a 32 GB device anymore and force most people who buy the device or upgrade to get the 64 GB for $100 more. Apple is a hypocrisy of a company who has the most loyal fans out there. Apple fans are also hypocrites because now they will she'll out thousands of dollars for a 5.5 inch device just because apple makes it when two years ago the 5/5s was "The perfect size." How do you people not see what apple does???? I guess you guys really are sheep.
Samscum hopelessly doing damage control is once again giving Apple free exposure. Now all the Samsung users know about a bigger iPhone 6 and can switch over to iOS! Hooray for them! Thanks, Scammy!
The best response from Apple to these ads? Nothing directly. Just play up the advantage of Apple Pay, Apple Watch, Continuity, all four iPhone product lines, or even brag about the sales figures from the first weekend (doubtful, but the most direct response).
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/182288/samsung-calls-apples-iphone-6-plus-a-galaxy-note-imitation-in-new-ad/40#post_2598457" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>waybacmac</strong> <a href="/t/182288/samsung-calls-apples-iphone-6-plus-a-galaxy-note-imitation-in-new-ad/40#post_2598457"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /> <p>I'm beginning to wonder if Apple management isn't getting a bit sloppy. Not in the products but in marketing them. The fiasco with the live stream could almost be excused; at least Apple presentations don't use silly skits that end up offending half the population of the US. But Cook & Co. must have realized that Samsung would come out with ads like these, and yet the few Apple ads that have come out so far are really weak. Justin Timberlake and Jimmy Fallon going, "Dum,dum,dum…"? Really? It kills me to see Samsung slamming Apple for "copying" while in the same ad using Apple's technique of showing how their phone can be used. I want to see smart ads really highlighting the other features of the iPhone 6 - and lots of them - so the whole size business fades into the background.</p><p> </p><p>Samsung may have lost a few battles over patents, but it sure looks like they won the war. If Apple doesn't step it up, they'll lose the marketing war too.</p></div></div><p> </p><p>Lost the war?</p><p> </p><p>Apple is selling 150,000,000 high end phones a year while Samdung is selling 80,000,000.</p><p> </p><p>I fully expect that Samsung will be just another Android manufacter in 12 months. I fully expect their profits to drop another 40% and their mobile division executives to get fired. </p><p> </p><p>It. Is. OVER. The only advantage Samdung has was larger screen. With that gone Samdung is screwed.</p>
I hate to break it to you but Samsung is just another Android manufacturer just currently the most successful one and it does have one major advantage. It's the one manufacturer everyone's heard of that isn't Apple. It's sales alone show that being that has been quite successful. Nowhere near successful but if your in the market for a top line phone and you don't want an iPhone then Samsung is the next logical step.
Explain to me the difference between Samsung and HTC. Why isn't HTC's superior device selling as well as Samsung's?
You probably want me to answer - because of Marketing. Sure, but thats not sales although it may lead to it. The guy I quoted was talking specifically about jobs. If we didn't realise that this was a good ad then he suggested we shouldn't give up our day job. I then said, as an aside, that it's the marketing department's job to do the marketing not sales. He disagreed. He's wrong and so are you.
Samsung's marketing is, for whats it worth, what sells their devices, but marketing is still not the sales department. In B2C companies sales departments are less important, but they do visit large corporate and public sector clients for business transitions.
In any case let me re-iterate why this is a bad ad. It is advertising that Apple have a bigger device. Seems dumb to me. To the faithful it will work, everybody else less so. Some people will actually buy the iPhone because of this ad.
( I also didn't like the Apple Mac vs PC adds although at least there they were pointing to failures of implementation, not advertising Windows features for free).
I remember the days when Apple used negative advertising to bash Windows. Never impressed me as a Windows user (rather quite the opposite) and of course never considered getting a Mac until long after the iPhone came out when the Macs were not only substantially improved but offered synergy with the iDevices. I do own an Android device (LG Nexus 5) and when it comes to upgrading that, I won't be considering any Samsung devices - I'm not going to buy from a company that bashes a product that I enjoy using.
The article give Samsung great credit because "It took Samsung less than a day to write, shoot, edit a short campaign consisting of six short ads".
Like, the entire industry has not known Apple's iPhone 6 sizes for a good year. Samsung certainly has, as they bid on the screen contracts. Like, really, you think they were caught by surprise on the 9th?????
I hate to break it to you but Samsung is just another Android manufacturer just currently the most successful one and it does have one major advantage. It's the one manufacturer everyone's heard of that isn't Apple. It's sales alone show that being that has been quite successful. Nowhere near successful but if your in the market for a top line phone and you don't want an iPhone then Samsung is the next logical step.
For the record, Samsung isn't making the margins on their high end smartphones that Apple does, and Samsung is vulnerable to being "consumed" by entry and low cost smartphones. Essentially, Samsung is currently the most powerful of the Android OEM's, but there are others on the way up. These ads aren't hurting Apple; they are portraying Samsung as faltering.
Every day that the other oem's survive, Samsung weakens in the minds of consumers. It is only it's manufacturing base and massive sales outlays that bought it marketshare, but sales outlays, such as these ads, aren't sustainable as profits drop.
Such is the race to the bottom that Android marketshare requires.
I remember the days when Apple used negative advertising to bash Windows. Never impressed me as a Windows user (rather quite the opposite) and of course never considered getting a Mac until long after the iPhone came out when the Macs were not only substantially improved but offered synergy with the iDevices. I do own an Android device (LG Nexus 5) and when it comes to upgrading that, I won't be considering any Samsung devices - I'm not going to buy from a company that bashes a product that I enjoy using.
well said, but the tone is more mean-spirited and idiotic at times, imo..
<div class="quote-container" data-huddler-embed="/t/182288/samsung-calls-apples-iphone-6-plus-a-galaxy-note-imitation-in-new-ad/80#post_2598529" data-huddler-embed-placeholder="false">Quote:<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>singularity</strong> <a href="/t/182288/samsung-calls-apples-iphone-6-plus-a-galaxy-note-imitation-in-new-ad/80#post_2598529"><img alt="View Post" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" /></a><br /><br /><br />I hate to break it to you but Samsung is just another Android manufacturer just currently the most successful one and it does have one major advantage. It's the one manufacturer everyone's heard of that isn't Apple. It's sales alone show that being that has been quite successful. Nowhere near successful but if your in the market for a top line phone and you don't want an iPhone then Samsung is the next logical step.</div></div><p> </p><p>not for long. Last quarter Samdung's profits were down 25%, sales down 20%. Their profits have been the down the last 4 quarters. Their profits are the lowest since 2012. They are RAPIDLY falling of the cliff.</p><p> </p><p>Fact is the high end will be DOMINATED by Apple with the 6.</p><p>The mid/low end will get CRUSHED by Chinese makers like Xiamio who make phones that look better than SAmdung for half the price.</p><p> </p><p>Just watch the next 4 quarters. Samdung will continue to fall. Then they will have to cut thier $20 Billion marketing budget and they will fall so more. In fact in Jan Samdung announced they would be cutting their marketing expense (keep in mind Samdung's marketing expense is larger than Apple, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, and HP combined)</p><p> </p><p>Xiaomi is already outselling Samdung in China:</p><p> </p><p>http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/08/04/xiaomi-overtakes-samsung-in-china-smartphone-market/</p><p> </p><p>Its only a matter of time.</p><p>Apple will crush Samdung in American/Europe/Japan</p><p>Xiaomi/Apple will crush Samdung in China</p><p> </p><p>That will leave Samdung only Russia/Brazil to dominate.</p>
I look forward to Xiaomi to being the next hate figure in Android handset manufacture. In fact I can't see why in this forum they aren't hated more than Samsung. If any manufacturer copies Apple more than Xiaomi then I haven't seen them. Without some radical change Xiaomi will never be able compete in the US but they will probably get a very large slice of the Chinese market.
Apple will always dominate the high end especially in the US. That's the only arena they operate in.
In the low and mid arena other manufacturers have to fight for market share and the more the merrier. More competition means the incumbents have to work harder to keep their customers.
The worst thing that could happen is one manufacturer totally dominates the market and has locked in its customers. That way lies stagnation and exploitation.
Sammy is a joke of a company. I hope their mobile division bleeds money. Screen size isn't copying. They had to create larger phones because they couldn't compete with the iPhone.
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Then let's not make a 32 GB device anymore and force most people who buy the device or upgrade to get the 64 GB for $100 more. Apple is a hypocrisy of a company who has the most loyal fans out there. Apple fans are also hypocrites because now they will she'll out thousands of dollars for a 5.5 inch device just because apple makes it when two years ago the 5/5s was "The perfect size." How do you people not see what apple does???? I guess you guys really are sheep.
The best response from Apple to these ads? Nothing directly. Just play up the advantage of Apple Pay, Apple Watch, Continuity, all four iPhone product lines, or even brag about the sales figures from the first weekend (doubtful, but the most direct response).
Yeah I know what sales are. Thanks. Notice it didn't say: same as marketing.
It's a different discipline from marketing. Lots of things lead to sales. Marketing. Engineering. Industrial design. But marketing is not sales.
I suppose if anyone would know about the "truth hurting", it'd be Samsung...
Explain to me the difference between Samsung and HTC. Why isn't HTC's superior device selling as well as Samsung's?
Explain to me the difference between Samsung and HTC. Why isn't HTC's superior device selling as well as Samsung's?
You probably want me to answer - because of Marketing. Sure, but thats not sales although it may lead to it. The guy I quoted was talking specifically about jobs. If we didn't realise that this was a good ad then he suggested we shouldn't give up our day job. I then said, as an aside, that it's the marketing department's job to do the marketing not sales. He disagreed. He's wrong and so are you.
Samsung's marketing is, for whats it worth, what sells their devices, but marketing is still not the sales department. In B2C companies sales departments are less important, but they do visit large corporate and public sector clients for business transitions.
In any case let me re-iterate why this is a bad ad. It is advertising that Apple have a bigger device. Seems dumb to me. To the faithful it will work, everybody else less so. Some people will actually buy the iPhone because of this ad.
( I also didn't like the Apple Mac vs PC adds although at least there they were pointing to failures of implementation, not advertising Windows features for free).
Like, the entire industry has not known Apple's iPhone 6 sizes for a good year. Samsung certainly has, as they bid on the screen contracts. Like, really, you think they were caught by surprise on the 9th?????
I hate to break it to you but Samsung is just another Android manufacturer just currently the most successful one and it does have one major advantage. It's the one manufacturer everyone's heard of that isn't Apple. It's sales alone show that being that has been quite successful. Nowhere near successful but if your in the market for a top line phone and you don't want an iPhone then Samsung is the next logical step.
For the record, Samsung isn't making the margins on their high end smartphones that Apple does, and Samsung is vulnerable to being "consumed" by entry and low cost smartphones. Essentially, Samsung is currently the most powerful of the Android OEM's, but there are others on the way up. These ads aren't hurting Apple; they are portraying Samsung as faltering.
Every day that the other oem's survive, Samsung weakens in the minds of consumers. It is only it's manufacturing base and massive sales outlays that bought it marketshare, but sales outlays, such as these ads, aren't sustainable as profits drop.
Such is the race to the bottom that Android marketshare requires.
I find the anti-Apple commercials pretty lame, but sorry, Android-haters, the Note phone itself is a great product.
Apple will always dominate the high end especially in the US. That's the only arena they operate in.
In the low and mid arena other manufacturers have to fight for market share and the more the merrier. More competition means the incumbents have to work harder to keep their customers.
The worst thing that could happen is one manufacturer totally dominates the market and has locked in its customers. That way lies stagnation and exploitation.
SHUT UP IF YOU DON’T COMPREHEND SOMETHING.
No one cares.
Get your eyes checked. Problem solved.
Because neither of those things are meaningful in any way.
You don’t get to at all. Apple couldn’t care less about specs and yet it already DOES blow everything else away.
No, try again.
Because there is no value of a larger iPhone. There’s a reason people aren’t buying the “phones” that are too large to be used as phones.