Samsung 'Galaxy S8' assistant Bixby said to use camera-based visual search to take on Siri...

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  • Reply 21 of 34
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    tzeshan said:
    No wonder Siri is stagnant.  The co-founders all left Apple. Then because of Tim Cook rigid management style, he does not find replacements.
    Boy that's a lot of baseless opinion and rumor presented as fact. "No wonder"
    You don't read the article?

    "Bixby's features are likely to have come from Viv Labs, the startup created by former Apple employees and Siri co-founders Dag Kittlaus, Adam Cheyer, and Chris Bringham. Last October, Samsung acquired the firmand its 30 employees for an undisclosed sum."
  • Reply 22 of 34
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    levi said:
    doubt it will be all that practical or even work consistently. Didn't Google shutter Goggles? 
    Apparently not. Look for it on Google Play. 
  • Reply 23 of 34
    kevin keekevin kee Posts: 1,289member
    tzeshan said:
    tzeshan said:
    No wonder Siri is stagnant.  The co-founders all left Apple. Then because of Tim Cook rigid management style, he does not find replacements.
    Boy that's a lot of baseless opinion and rumor presented as fact. "No wonder"
    You don't read the article?

    "Bixby's features are likely to have come from Viv Labs, the startup created by former Apple employees and Siri co-founders Dag Kittlaus, Adam Cheyer, and Chris Bringham. Last October, Samsung acquired the firmand its 30 employees for an undisclosed sum."
    I think he read the article correctly, which is why he said that.

    1. Siri is not stagnant.
    2. You assumed these 3 are all the co-founders of first Siri company.
    3. You assumed Apple depended only on the co-founders not the technology behind it.
    4. Tim Cook rigid management is only your opinion not a fact
    5. He does not find replacement is also your own bullshit, not a fact

    So my advise? I am not being snarky, but keep telling lies and you are in many people blacklist.

    edited January 2017 watto_cobra
  • Reply 24 of 34
    Can't wait to see what it comes up with, faced with hard core porn. Should be a hoot! Maybe Mr, Sulu's "Oh, my!"
  • Reply 25 of 34
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    kevin kee said:
    tzeshan said:
    tzeshan said:
    No wonder Siri is stagnant.  The co-founders all left Apple. Then because of Tim Cook rigid management style, he does not find replacements.
    Boy that's a lot of baseless opinion and rumor presented as fact. "No wonder"
    You don't read the article?

    "Bixby's features are likely to have come from Viv Labs, the startup created by former Apple employees and Siri co-founders Dag Kittlaus, Adam Cheyer, and Chris Bringham. Last October, Samsung acquired the firmand its 30 employees for an undisclosed sum."
    I think he read the article correctly, which is why he said that.

    1. Siri is not stagnant.
    2. You assumed these 3 are all the co-founders of first Siri company.
    3. You assumed Apple depended only on the co-founders not the technology behind it.
    4. Tim Cook rigid management is only your opinion not a fact
    5. He does not find replacement is also your own bullshit, not a fact

    So my advise? I am not being snarky, but keep telling lies and you are in many people blacklist.

    You don't know what you are talking about. The article listed four person as co-founders.  How many people are needed to found Siri?  Apple only need two.  How about Google? Two. Facebook? One. Unless the article mistake employees as co-founders, I think my understanding is right. And you cannot provide any count proof of my assertions. 
  • Reply 26 of 34
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    mac_128 said:
    I want this feature almost every day now. It would do for objects what Shazam does for music. 
    Samsung one-ups Apple:

    "Hey Bixby! What is that?"

    "That is a fire truck."

    "Who called a fire truck?"

    "I did."

    "Why the hell did you call a fire truck?"

    "Welcome to predictive AI. Now place me on the ground and step out of the blast radius."


    watto_cobra
  • Reply 27 of 34
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    dewme said:
    maestro64 said:
    mac_128 said:
    I want this feature almost every day now. It would do for objects what Shazam does for music. 

    Do you have problem identifying objects you see each day, yeah we all may not know what title to the song or who may sing a song, but helping identify an objects. I would hope you know what are looking at.
    This could be quite useful for Galaxy owners for identifying nearby fire extinguishers, large bodies of water, facial expressions indicating abject horror, escape routes, and emergency exit signs. They may want to add odor detection as well to correlate the visual indicators with the accompanying smell of burning clothing and flesh.
    My morning started with a headache. Now I've had a good laugh I feel much better. Thanks!
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 28 of 34
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member

    fallenjt said:
    maestro64 said:
    mac_128 said:
    I want this feature almost every day now. It would do for objects what Shazam does for music. 

    Do you have problem identifying objects you see each day, yeah we all may not know what title to the song or who may sing a song, but helping identify an objects. I would hope you know what are looking at.
    Pr0n? To see who is the actress?
    Even Pr0n rolls credits. 
    edited January 2017
  • Reply 29 of 34
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member

    tzeshan said:
    No wonder Siri is stagnant.  The co-founders all left Apple. Then because of Tim Cook rigid management style, he does not find replacements.
    Actually they were replaced, with a small outfit of geniuses from Cambridge University and another company from Seattle

    http://www.businessweekly.co.uk/news/hi-tech/apple-has-acquired-vocaliq-cambridge

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/apple-turi-ai-tim-cook-machine-learning-startup-a7182476.html?amp?client=safari
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 30 of 34
    maestro64 said:
    mac_128 said:
    I want this feature almost every day now. It would do for objects what Shazam does for music. 

    Do you have problem identifying objects you see each day, yeah we all may not know what title to the song or who may sing a song, but helping identify an objects. I would hope you know what are looking at.
    It's a little clunky using these technologies in a phone except for "basic" things like translating a menu/sign or identifying a product or landmark but you can surely see the potential? I imagine these image-recognition technologies become more useful once they are integrated into windscreens, glasses, bodycams, earphones, drones. Driving in a foreign country is easier if the signs are translated on the fly, shopping with an alert for better prices or products in your glasses or ears or knowing where someone bought a jacket you like the look of, logging what you're eating by looking at it. Personally I'm a little scared by the implications - eventually there will be cameras everywhere that recognise everything that is going on
  • Reply 31 of 34
    Samsung still desperately wanting to be like Apple (in complete control over hardware & software). Problem is they tied themselves to Android, so they're never in complete control. And yet they still try so hard with all the Samsung proprietary features that are already present in Android. I just don't get it. 
    I wonder what ever happened to Samsung using Tinzen in phones. 
    Samsung actually never gave up on Tizen. There was little demand for a Tizen based phone and little development for it. 

    Samsung still plans to displace Android with Tizen. Their plans are still in effect. Their Gear S3 frontier watch is quite nice and with the only integrated modem on a smartwatch, is able to make standalone calls. There is nothing else on the market that has that feature, not even the Apple Watch. I do believe that it's coming to Apple, but for now only Samsung has it. Samsung's AR/VR goggles are based on Tizen as are their smart TVs. 

    Samsung makes the best non apple mobile hardware the Note 7 fiasco aside. They have the ability to displace Android and Google is well aware of that fact. Samsung pay is better than the Android equivalent also. 

    Samsung gets a lot of negative focus as do many of the Android OEMs and I feel that much of it is misplaced. Google is the real issue. They are the ones that steal other's ideas. But it is going to come back and bite them hard. 

    Google is reserving assistant only for the Pixel. Hence Samsung is coming out with Bixby. And Huawei is putting Alexa on the upcoming Mate 9. That one may be a dagger aimed right for Google's heart. 

    A fairly large and substantial developer community has come into existence for Alexa. The developer community for Assistant is paltry in comparison. Alexa is also based on Bing and can potentially reduce the traffic on Google search right on Google's own Android platform. Alexa also integrates nicely with Prime which is the most lucrative demographic of online shoppers. 

    Google was once afraid of Microsoft's intent to lock search out of the Windows platform. The tables are now turned. I wonder what they are going to try and do to keep Bing locked out of Android. Alexa is coming. And with Alexa, prime members will get their apps primarily on Amazon's App Store rather than Google Play. 

    Google's intent to build their own phones makes a lot of sense. The only thing is that they are incompetent in hardware. They are forced to use other companies to actually build the products. And in the case of their phones, they are moving to OEMs with progressively less capability. They started with Samsung then moved to LG. Then to Huawei and now HTC. 

    The Mate 9 will likely achieve a great deal of success. And the other OEMs will likely bring Alexa to their own platforms. The developer community for Alexa will ensure its success and Google will become desperate. 

    Woz even predicted Alexa as the next major trend in computing. Google is too late to stop this freight train. Bezos and Amazon is a conpetitor they haven't had to deal with in this way before. This one won't turn out well. 
    patchythepirate
  • Reply 32 of 34
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    Samsung still desperately wanting to be like Apple (in complete control over hardware & software). Problem is they tied themselves to Android, so they're never in complete control. And yet they still try so hard with all the Samsung proprietary features that are already present in Android. I just don't get it. 
    I wonder what ever happened to Samsung using Tinzen in phones. 
    Samsung actually never gave up on Tizen. There was little demand for a Tizen based phone and little development for it. 

    Samsung still plans to displace Android with Tizen. Their plans are still in effect. Their Gear S3 frontier watch is quite nice and with the only integrated modem on a smartwatch, is able to make standalone calls. There is nothing else on the market that has that feature, not even the Apple Watch. I do believe that it's coming to Apple, but for now only Samsung has it. Samsung's AR/VR goggles are based on Tizen as are their smart TVs. 

    Samsung makes the best non apple mobile hardware the Note 7 fiasco aside. They have the ability to displace Android and Google is well aware of that fact. Samsung pay is better than the Android equivalent also. 

    Samsung gets a lot of negative focus as do many of the Android OEMs and I feel that much of it is misplaced. Google is the real issue. They are the ones that steal other's ideas. But it is going to come back and bite them hard. 

    Google is reserving assistant only for the Pixel. Hence Samsung is coming out with Bixby. And Huawei is putting Alexa on the upcoming Mate 9. That one may be a dagger aimed right for Google's heart. 

    A fairly large and substantial developer community has come into existence for Alexa. The developer community for Assistant is paltry in comparison. Alexa is also based on Bing and can potentially reduce the traffic on Google search right on Google's own Android platform. Alexa also integrates nicely with Prime which is the most lucrative demographic of online shoppers. 

    Google was once afraid of Microsoft's intent to lock search out of the Windows platform. The tables are now turned. I wonder what they are going to try and do to keep Bing locked out of Android. 
    In truth Alexa on the Huawei Mate 9 and Samsung Pay on their compatible handsets may actually work to Google's advantage by keeping antitrust regulators at bay, particularly those in the EU would would like to believe the claims from Microsoft that Google locks out pre-installed competitors like Bing (who really doesn't compete IMHO and has come preinstalled on a couple of previous Android handsets), and Amazon's Alexa voice assistant. I would not even be shocked if Google proactively gave Huawei their OK to do so. Other plusses include pushing Google to keep their eye on the ball rather than become complacent, engineering new features and improving existing ones. I doubt Google is worried about ever being locked out of Android, which will remain the world's most used operating system for the foreseeable future. 

    Another point showing the level of cooperation between Samsung and Google: They have an agreement in place to cross-license all existing patents owned by either company as well as any future ones thru 2024. The relationship is mutually beneficial. 
    edited January 2017
  • Reply 33 of 34
    Bixby is far far more advanced and capable than Siri. Bixby (Bixby) was designed to learn how to handle queries that it wasn’t originally programmed to process. “The more you ask of Bixby, the more it will get to know you,” Kittlaus said a few months ago. “Siri was chapter one, and now it’s almost like a new Internet age is coming. Bixby will be a giant brain in the sky.” TechCrunch expands on this point: The second is the programmatic nature of Bixby’s back-end systems. Utilizing “breakthroughs” in program synthesis, Bixby says its AI is capable of writing its own code to accomplish new tasks. This “software that builds itself” is not new in many other verticals, but Bixby was one of the first big splash announcements using the technique that we had seen in AI. Bixby calls this “dynamic program generation,” and it allows Bixby to understand the intent of the user and to create programs to handle tasks on the fly, even if it’s never heard that particular one in the past. Big mistake stating that Bixby is like Siri, Google Now and Cortana. Bixby is much much more and much more advanced that these 3. Siri understands 250 commands at max. Bixby several hundreds of thousands and potentional an unlimited number because of it's modular and open design and self learning capabilties. Unlike other existing AI-based services, Bixby has a sophisticated natural language understanding, machine learning capabilities and strategic partnerships that will enrich a broader service ecosystem, Earlier this year, Bixby Labs demonstrated their state-of-the-art AI technology based Bixby app. Current digital assistants such as Apple Siri, Microsoft Cortana, Motorola's Moto Assist and Google Now can only take pre-defined commands and perform or reply with a prescribed response to a task, but Bixby is said to be far superior than them. Users can interact with the Bixby like having a normal conversation with another person and get the service delivered, without having to open an app and choose options on the screen, app developers claim. The Bixby application is said to integrate all the information available online, instead of inclining on some select apps installed in the phone for a particular service. It can also intuitively improve itself by learning users' preferences over time. It can also help you make a purchase online with just voice commands. No other smartphone phone brand in the market offers this. Even Google Assistant cannot make payments via voice commands, but it is expected to be made available later this year. Read this very interesting article from Brian Roemmele about the gigantic difference between Siri and Bixby https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-Siri-and-Viv
  • Reply 34 of 34
    maestro64maestro64 Posts: 5,043member
    fallenjt said:
    maestro64 said:
    mac_128 said:
    I want this feature almost every day now. It would do for objects what Shazam does for music. 

    Do you have problem identifying objects you see each day, yeah we all may not know what title to the song or who may sing a song, but helping identify an objects. I would hope you know what are looking at.
    Pr0n? To see who is the actress?

    if she was hot then everyone know who she is, otherwise, who cares
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