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I care. I don't expect them to destroy the phone after I return it unopened. It just doesn't make sense for *me* to pay the extra $200 dollars. I tried to cancel on Apple.com and could not. And I tried calling Apple to cancel and was on hold for 35 minutes before the dropped my call. Or were you implying I thought there was some cosmic significance in my noble actions?? *You're telling us more about yourself than you mean to , me thinks.
My preorder is going to be returned un-opened. Should have included people who bought iPhone 3G in July of last year regardless of the "upgrade eligibility" voodoo. I pay $104 a month and on time and I am still not eligible until 12/12/2009. I pre-ordered one at the premium knowing I could return it before opening it for a full refund - and that's what I'm still planning to do.
. As stated I think the contracts favor AT&T too much - for upgrades cost (125 ETF vs. 200 UPGRADE), for rollover minutes, for minute overage charges. That is my *opinion.* Your opinion differs. Let's agree to disagree. Let's leave it at that.
If you think PayDay loans are a-ok then we shall *never* agree on this issue. Let's agree to disagree and be done with it.
Oh, and what might be a fairer system for AT&T? 1)Let iphone users update every year. <-Probably not going to happen with AT&T. 2)Add the cost of the Early Termination Fee (ETF) (,which congress mandated be a prorated against the carrier's vocal protest,) to end the current contract and then give the subsidized price while having to sign a new contract. <- This would average $125 for the upgrade to current iPhone 3g users who got it on launch day. I think option...
And just because you repeat it doesn't mean it's true. We disagree on this point.
We seem to have an fairly large consensus on this thread, from all sides , that the cell phone industries practices are unfair. And because a company is making money with an unfair, BUT LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT, why should we not voice our displeasure? Companies are in business to make money - and they can make a lot more money with unfair contracts -ala the company store, or payday loans. "Don't sign. Don't complain. Unfairness is only caused by complaining.If I...
Why Not?? It doesn't mean the "bitching" or - as some WHINERS would call it - asking to re-negotiate with a company is bad in itself? They could jsut say "NO" couldn't they? And legally they'd just continue to collect form the contract.Why can't we do this after we discover how unfair the contract is? What's your beef? Life is unfair so we should capitulate like you did with your last 6 cell phone contracts?(And isn't that also the solution for unwanted teen pregnancy too...
Why is it WHINING if someone voices the opinion that they are being treated UNFAIRLY? That's my beef. It's the same language used by some in politics who say the people we tortured where WHINERS becuase wanted the torture to stop. Or that women were WHINERS when asking for the vote. Or that freed slaves in the south WHINED about the literacy test and poll taxes. Now - a smart phone is NOWHERE is important as those other issues - but it does seem to be a pathology used by...
No, it's being an apologizst for a consumer unfriendly system. We know that the system currently works this way - and we want it to change. Some people consider it whining. Others consider unfair to our corporate overlords. The contracts for nearly all cell phone carriers are completely unfair to the consumer. And becuase we signed them they are legally binding. It doesn't mean that we can't ask for a change. And if AT&T agrees we can sign a different contract. I thought...
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