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McCarthy thought he was fighting a great evil, too. And, like you, he didn't care who he destroyed in the process.
I worry a lot about civil liberties. And what I see is the rise of a new McCarthyism, complete with Hollywood blacklists and public denouncing of heretics. "Are you now or have you ever been a member of a church that preaches against sex except between a man and a woman who are married to each other?" Joe would be proud. Heck, Mole from Pogo would be proud.
Actually, you pay property taxes when you rent an apartment. You just aren't the one getting the bill. But it is an expense that has to be covered by your rent, nevertheless. It is not 'free.' But let's take a wealthier church, for example. Say the church owns a cattle ranch, which runs with volunteer labor. It donates 100% of the meat to food banks, the Red Cross, and other welfare organizations, or it uses the meat to help its own poor. Should the ranch be taxed? What if...
The thread is getting awfully repetitive. What do you think of the LGBT:Mormon compromise in Utah? Granted, no one there is 100% happy with it. But it does show compromise is possible. The main points are this:   1) Same sex marriage will be allowed in Utah. 2) Discrimination in housing or in the workplace on the basis of gender orientation or religious belief is specifically prohibited. 3) Churches will not be forced to perform same sex marriages if they do not want...
How are they different? In fact, they are worse. Besides being terribly regressive, telling people that they cannot meet in their own building to worship unless they pay a tax is a gross violation of the establishment clause. Basically it is saying we only want rich churches around here. You po' people can go meet in another town.
An income tax on churches would have the same effect and be just as illegal as an income tax on political parties. Are you advocating that the Democrats should be forced to pay an income tax on their contributions?
I have never heard of the excuse of "tradition." I think you are presenting a straw man argument. The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that the right to tax a church is the right to ban it, which is a violation of the establishment clause. How would you feel about taxing the Democratic Party on the contributions it receives? And if it does not pay those taxes, then it is not allowed to meet or vote or publish ads or have any other rights?
The Supreme Court has consistently disagreed with you. No one should be required to pay a tax or get a license in order to worship as they wish. Requiring a church to pay a tax in order to exist is as objectionable as a poll tax. The whole point of the Establishment Clause is to guarantee basic civil rights. If you can have your civil rights taken away simply for failure to pay a tax on those rights, then no one has any civil rights at all. Including you.
What problems does it cause? How do SMART people avoid obeying the law?
In fact, the Establishment Clause prohibits laws that curtail the free exercise of religion. It also prohibits restrictions of freedom of speech or association. Non-discrimination laws violate all three provisions of the Establishment clause. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the...
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