Posts by groverat

Quote: You're now moving the goal line. I never made any claims about longevity. The point was about efficiency as I recall. Would you contend that a business can be efficient and dead at the same time? Quote: As far as the...

Quote: No. Not really. But believe whatever fairy tales make you feel good. It's not a fairy tale. For business terminations, the Wells Fargo/NFIB study uses data of the U.S. Census Bureau, which only records closures of companies...

Quote: History with government programs in general should be plenty. It isn't. The government runs many different operations just as well as the average private concern. Actually, superior given government's inherent advantage in...

Quote: Assumptions (history suggests you're wrong). What history are you talking about? We have no history with single-payer healthcare. However, we do have the example of many other nations. I have a feeling you will not address...

Quote: Why? How does that contain costs? What problems does it solve? - More efficient - More accountable - More universal - Takes healthcare provision burden off of business - Takes healthcare provision acquisition off of worker -...

Quote: Is it true that this health care reform plan would mean that the government would have a cheaper health plan than what's out there now? If you mean the current plan as it is exists, then ... maybe. The compromise that...

Quote: Sure, and when Walmart puts up a store in a neighborhood it doesn't replace the local commercial industry...right. That's the nature of competition. If you think we should artificially prop up the private insurance industry...

Quote: The private sector health care industry. It doesn't replace the private sector health care industry. In absolutely no sense does any of the proposed reform do that. Quote: There you go again, displaying a lack of knowledge...

Quote: Than the system it replaced. What system does this plan replace? Quote: The Social Security Act of 65 amended existing social security legislation created in '35 by adding, amother other programs, medicare and medicade. Now...

Quote: groverat, would you object to the characterization of the plan as being an attempt by government to control the health care of the entire nation? I suppose it depends on what you mean by "control". If by...