patchythepirate

tht said:

While Young did not detail anything about the 27-inch iMac beyond the display, it's likely that any new pro-focused iMac model will sport Apple's M1 Pro and M1 Max chips as options.

It really needs to have the rumored "M1 Max duo" as the top end SoC. It has to be >50% faster than the 18-core iMac Pro in CPU which scores about 13000 in GB5 multi and >50% faster the Radeon Pro 5700XT which scores about 80k in GB5 compute. It's will be 2 years+ from an update to iMac 5K and iMac Pro. There needs to be a reason to upgrade and the M1 Pro and M1 Max really aren't going to be enough.

An M1 Max Duo with 16 p-cores, 4 e-cores, and 64 g-cores should score around 20k in GB5 multi and 110k in GB5 compute. Also, 128 GB RAM should be the top end RAM config at least.

I just want an M series iMac with a black bezel. I hope the entry point for the pro version isn't ridiculous. Also really hoping for some color options as well.

This actually could be very useful for hospitals, clinics, or other businesses where cost and security/privacy are factors. In a hospital setting it could also reduce pathogen spread by having one device per person, rather than the current situation which is basically a computer orgy, with dozens of people using the same computer each day. It's also a huge pain in the ass to log into secure networks (eg hospital networks), with a long authentication process that looks like it was invented in the 90s, which could easily be fixed by a quick Touch ID press. It would be so nice not to have to use crappy windows computers at every hospital and clinic I work at. Save me, Apple!

payeco said:

This article was written like was meant to fill a quota. 

And? Don't know if you noticed, but the apple rumorsphere has been incredibly boring lately. Anything that can stir some discussion is welcome to me.

I think I'd prefer the hole punch, but I don't care that much either way.

I definitely want an under the screen fingerprint reader. It's so much easier than positioning your head and eyes (yes, I know the eye thing can be changed in settings), and that's even before dealing with annoying issues like glasses, masks, etc. It's so much easier to confirm apple pay without having to look at or position your phone, I miss that. In addition, it'd be cool to be able to program certain fingers for different tasks, eg authenticating, popping up a menu (like a right click type thing), open a specific app, triggering a home kit scene, etc.

It's hilarious how many curmudgeons, Negative Nancy's, and shut-ins there are commenting on this thread that are completely incapable of understanding how most people under the age of 40 communicate these days.

techlover said:

Good grief can we give the whole copying thing a rest already?

Everyone copies everyone. We are all standing on the shoulders of giants.

That being said, one thing I hope Apple will copy from Google is being able to log into any web browser from anywhere, go to the app store page, and install any app to any device I choose.

That is one of the things Google gets right. You search for an app on the Google Play Store website from any browser, you find it easily because their search works. You then click install, and by the time you have picked up the device you installed said app to, its already downloading and installing.

It's quite slick and seamless and I think that is well worth copying. I'd love to see Apple do that same exact thing.

Hey charlie brown, cool it with that tired rationalization.. which does not come remotely close to the reality that the copying is extremely asymmetric. Pretty pathetic, but Apple haters have to sleep at night somehow I suppose. BTW, if Apple comes out with Apple Balloon and Apple Contact Lens I'll take my words back.

Completely agree with the many here that siri is lacking.. IMO it's total shit. Not because I'm expecting anything spectacular (although with minimal improvement over 6 years something is terribly wrong), but siri can't do BASIC things. The contextual awareness promised is almost non existent. Asking siri to search for anything is almost worthless, no matter how much you try to help it with context. If I want to find a location it only shows a list of places showing how far they are away from me. If I ask show me locations for _______ in Maps I just get the same list again, instead of opening Maps and showing the locations. Then I have to pick a location and get lucky. If it's not the location I want, or its in the direction opposite from the one I want to go, I have to manually type in a search (which of course, is terrible). You'd think Apple would be able to program in such a basic function that I'm sure a lot of other people have been annoyed by. 

Once again, with nearly every Apple service, the only thing siri does well is rote tasks, like reminders, making calls, things that require no sophistication at all; for which i use siri very effectively on a daily basis. 

How can Apple be heads and shoulders above all of its competition in nearly every single respect, but be sub-par, and even terrible at times, at any service that is not a rote task (or sometimes even rote tasks*)?

With all of Apple's resources, and after multiple outright failures (mobile me, ping, soon to be Connect**) this seems pretty inexcusable.

*Ever try searching your iCloud email when trying to access it through a web browser.. it gives very limited, and even incorrect results to simple keyword searches!
**How could Apple make the same exact mistake with Connect that they made with ping. It boggles the mind. I kept waiting for some extra announcement or feature add to connect, but it never came, allowed to languish into obscurity for a year. How hard is it not to release a social app before you have 1) a compelling product and 2) the critical mass needed to actually make it work!? 

crowley said:

Getting told to get a life by someone so taken with hatred for a tech company that they have a readily available catalogue of grievances. Not a war criminal, not a human rights abuser, not someone who has injured themselves or their family, a tech company. Get a life?  Not really an insult. 

Getting called a troll by someone who can't handle anyone else not subscribing to that hatred and tries to shout them down with insults. A troll?  Not really an insult.

I didn't insinuate anything. Learn to deal with other opinions on the internet please, or you'll give yourself an aneurysm.

As for whether this story illustrates sadness, or a lack of dignity or class, simply because it might be controlled leak of information to deflate a competitive advantage, I cannot honestly believe that you would think Apple have never had a controlled leak of information to achieve the exact same goal before. Was that sad, or reflective of a lack of dignity or class?  It's just PR, whichever company does it, and it's completely normal.

Huh? Your statement made very little sense. You 'don't subscribe to hatred'? What hatred are you referring to, exactly? And are you insinuating that I have "hatred?" (Oh, that's right, you don't insinuate things, apparently). I don't remember using the word "hatred" to describe google, I merely said they have no dignity or class (incidentally, largely because of this, I dislike google). As a reminder, the word I used was "troll."

Just so we're clear, I didn't "shout you down" with insults. (But way to play victim there). There is no need to "shout you down" after I clearly pointed out how you were wrong. You are free to take "troll" as an insult if you wish, but it is more of a descriptor than an insult.

In addition, whatever argument you're trying to make there is pretty rich for someone who goes out of his way to visit a website in order to repeatedly criticize a company (>4000 posts!). Is there not another website where you can go to to repeatedly criticize Apple in troll-like fashion? It must be an Apple-centric website, huh? I suppose if I "hated" google as you seem to suggest, I'd be going to google insider and writing 4000 posts, but I don't, because I'd rather spend my time focusing on things I enjoy, like Apple.

And finally back to the point. As I, and others have pointed out, the timing says it all. And to answer your last question: yes.

crowley said:

jbdragon said:

That may be all fine and dandy and true, but the problem is the timing!!! This rumor is leaked and there's Google going "ME TOO"!!!! Why not say it's happening before the Apple leak? Why not wait a few months from now? Where was this announcement at Google's Developers conference? That was less then a month ago!!! Wouldn't that have been the perfect time to announce something like that?  

You seem to have the sources backwards. There was no Apple leak, Schiller revealed it in an interview. Google is not going "ME TOO!!!", this is a report from Re/Code, not a formal announcement.

Even if the Google news is a controlled leak, so what?  Apple announced something and Google weren't gaining anything by sitting on their own news, so they slipped it out a little earlier than they originally planned. That's fine, and good message management, otherwise Apple own the news of reduced Developer pricing.

So you're insinuating there's a possibility this wasn't a controlled leak?? You trolls have a disturbing talent with rationalization.* The fact is that this was nothing more than a sad "me too" statement (the timing incontrovertibly proves it) by a company lacking in dignity and class, which is evident in nearly everything they do, from the way they blatantly steal IP (iPhone, java, nearly all of Apple's products, ...), to stealing privacy (e.g. getting the biggest fine in FCC history at the time for doing so), to completely wasting resources with ridiculous ideas (balloons, contacts, project ara, ...), to wasting investor resources (motoroloa, nest, ...), to putting out half-baked products that their customers have to figure out for themselves.

*It's kind of funny how there are nearly as many troll comments on this thread as all the others combined. Pretty pathetic. Get a life ffs.