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nunzy said:

65.5% of Americans use iOS? Is that accurate?

I thought that iPhone had around 35 or 40% of the American market. Does iPad make up the difference?

From the website linked in the article; 

“We looked at data from millions of users across Mixpanel’s 20,000-plus customers to study the state of mobile in the first half of 2018.” 

Mixpanel was founded in 2009 and had an app to track user interactions in their Android or iOS app beginning in 2015.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixpanel

This is a very new company and I would think that at this early stage in their history that the company’s data is probably not very accurate. 

The notch allows for more screen real estate to be used for pull down areas with control center and notifications. 
I support that. 
- And videos can be viewed with black borders which hide the notch. 
I don't see a downside here. 

larrystar said:

 I love Apple but I’m tired of them saying the iPhone X is full screen there’s clearly a black  bezel around the phone and that very ugly notch,  then the camera bump really and they want at least $1000 for this 64 gigs it’s time to take a stand and say no.

I don't sense much "love" here.
1. No one is forcing anyone to buy any phone.
2. There is no such thing as a full screen/zero bezel phone.
There is instead a screen to body ratio and the iPhone X does very well with that measurement.
3. You think there is a "very ugly notch".
I think it looks fine. Partly because I understand the reason for it in terms of UI and with keeping the phone more compact.
4. A camera bump is not exclusive to the iPhone X. A bump has been on iPhones for years.    

apple jockey said:

By my take, this incident will require a more nuanced second act by Apple in response to the public criticism they may well now be in for because of this father and daughters misjudgments.

Some people hate Apple. There is nothing that can be done about that even when Apple does something reasonable.

An example of the double standard is where Tesla can fire hundreds of employees (and some of them claimed it was unfair).
The overall reaction on the web has been to support Tesla.

But to part of the public Apple is always wrong.
An Apple employee let his daughter not only use a preproduciton iPhone X but allowed her to post a video of it and release sensitive/confidential data to the public.
The reaction of those who strongly dislike Apple of course will be; Apple should not fire the guy even when the cause to do so is clear. 

cato1040 said:

As a reminder to those reading, I did my first post because someone has asking about objective facts. Almost all reviewers (not just bloggers) found FaceID to be imperfect. I prefer the option of both fingerprint and face unlocking, but if FaceID alone works for you, that's great. Also, objectively, the S8 has more screen real estate and a higher screen to body ratio, you can look it up. It goes wider than the iPhone. The iPhone gives the illusion of otherwise, but the numbers don't lie. The S8 also does have a button at the bottom of the screen, it's just hidden behind the screen (apparently it's very well hidden ;D). I'll admit that though the presence of controls is objective, their influence on the user is subjective. I use an iPad, and there's no way I could go back or multitask with it as quickly or as easily as on my S8, but if you're okay with that, that's fine. I also prefer using headphones I don't need to charge without a dongle, but that's me. 

I do get your complaint about Samsung being first off the block but I'd rather at least have the option. Don't get me wrong, Android's aren't without fault  as demonstrated by the Note 7 and the Pixel 2. The issue is that for better or worse, the iPhone sets the standards, and unless their clients demand better, the standard will remain placid. The quality of the iPhone generally sets the quality of phones in general. (Though Apple does have fantastic service.) 

The tone of this post is better.
In your first comment you said about certain iPhone users; "want to open the eyes of some iSheep who don't know what they're missing out on."
Since your topic is "objective facts"; You call some people iSheep (an insult), they will insult you back.

1. Your main underlying comparison is between the iPhone as a whole and all Android phones;
You wrote; "they've started falling behind at the iPhone 4 and haven't seemed to be able to recover though most people enamoured by their marketing seem to miss this."
- But then you pull a trick where you only compare the iPhone X with many Android phones.
Besides being irritating to cherry pick the features of several phones against one phone, that leads to multiple strawman arguments.
- Fact; the iPhone X does not equal all iPhones being sold by Apple today.
- You don't like things (or possible problems) about the iPhone X; FaceID, the battery life, working in the cold, the green line, without a home button...; then the customer can get an iPhone 8 Plus.
- You don't like other things; it's expensive, no headphone jack, more breakable iPhone; the customer can get an iPhone 7 Plus or 6S Plus.
(And don't add another strawman that these are slow phones. Several iPhone models are fast compared with Android phones according to real world tests.)
* The fact is that the iPhone customer has options with several different devices to choose from. And that demolishes most of your arguments.

2. Other Android vs iOS issues;
"it has no back button..., they could have switched over to USB C..., iOS gives the user less control over their phone's interface"
These are tech preferences. You care about that, which is your privilege but I don't.
- What do I care about?
- On Ars Technica even Android fans admit compared with iOS; the Android OS update system is a mess, security is inferior, and Google with its advertising model is weaker on privacy for users compared with Apple.
That is often why things like cloud services are cheaper with Google because they are mining all your private data for ads.
- Many Android users report the OS skins slowing down over time. Google Nexus/Pixel can fix some of these problems but in many ways the hardware of those phones is  inferior to iPhones.
With my tech preferences; iOS is superior to Android. 

seanismorris said:

jdw said:

The continued presence of the "notch" coupled with what consumers perceive as the biggest bang for the buck is no doubt driving this.

I don’t think the notch is that big a deal, but price is.  

Also, IPhone have been better at security but Cellebrite can crack both iPhones and Android. (Bad guys can buy them on eBay)

Apple has the better App Store, but the gap has narrowed.

I think people look at what’s available and conclude Android is the better value.  Personally, I don’t use Apple services to a great extent so migrating isn’t that big a deal.  I’m fine with my 6s until it dies and don’t see a reason to buy ultra premium.

I, like most people, will look at what givens the most bang for the buck.  Apple is pushing things like AR and the camera, which aren’t that important.  Security, build quality are things I care about...

Agree & I’d add that many people don’t care about the privacy of there personal information anymore.
20 years ago, the idea of letting a company look at all your mail, calendar appointments, trips using a map to target you for junk ads would be considered nuts. 
But today millions are fine if Google or Amazon do it.
Millions are even fine with a company using a microphone/speaker listening in on personal conversations throughout their house! Again for targeted ads. 

* One of Apple’s big features is privacy. But their hardware cost has to pay for that.
- A lot of people say; ‘screw privacy! I can get this Android phone $300 cheaper.’ ‘I can get these $50 speakers to put all over my house which answer my questions & allow me to buy things from Amazon.’
- When features are “good enough” for the average user, price is the deciding factor.  

mr. h said:

fastasleep said:

You have Spotlight indexing everything every day. You have Photos using machine learning to identify faces and pets and objects every day. What's to stop Apple from exfiltrating that data at any point? … Live Text is coming to iOS 15 and macOS Monterey and is going to make a whole lot of image-based text indexable, why aren't people freaking out about that?

Why are none of the naysayers in this thread addressing this extremely valid point? The above features, which have been in iOS for years (apart from Live Text, obviously) actually fit the profile of what is being complained about, far more than the newly-proposed CSAM detection process.

It’s not a valid point. In the past Tim Cook has stated that Apple has the ability to mine all your data in iOS (Safari, iMessage, Maps, Photos) & either make money from it as Google does (I’m not counting News or the App Store) or turn that information over to law enforcement.
- In the past Tim Cook has said Apple would not do this.
That Apple would not mine all your data for money or mine all your data so it could be turned over to law enforcement.
- Apple specifically took steps to protect user privacy such as encryption which Apple would not break.
A famous example was the San Bernardino terrorist attack where Apple said they could / would not provide law enforcement with encrypted information. 

* What is new here with CSAM?
From Apple;
”new technology in iOS and iPadOS* will allow Apple to detect known CSAM images stored in iCloud Photos. This will enable Apple to report these instances to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC). NCMEC acts as a comprehensive reporting center for CSAM and works in collaboration with law enforcement agencies across the United States.”

A user lends their phone to a friend, that friend uploads the wrong kind of image, that is report to NDMEC then law enforcement & then the phone owner has a the police barging into their house.

* Apple has decided to become an extension of law enforcement. Imo it is not Apple’’s job to police the world.
It is the job of parents to safeguard their children from the disturbing & harmful material on the internet.     
Apple should not become Big Brother & demolish their past history of privacy. 

D_CMills said:

It is amazing that these people are able to keep their jobs year after year.

It would be amazing if all tech journalism/analysis was based on honestly reviewing facts.
With Apple a lot of tech journalists/analysts specialize in FUD.
And trashing Apple has a large audience of fans of competing ecosystems who dislike Apple.
Apple bashing makes money.
For years the Macalope / Macworld column has been tracking journalists/analysts who bash Apple.

crowley said:

bb-15 said:

A user lends their phone to a friend, that friend uploads the wrong kind of image, that is report to NDMEC then law enforcement & then the phone owner has a the police barging into their house. 

You would need to do that something like 30 times for the police to come barging on your door.  Do you even lend your phone to a friend for anything other than a quick call?  I don't.  These gotchas that people are offering are always such a preposterous stretch.  

You have what is called confirmation bias.
From your response you assume that in the history of cell phones that the lending of a phone can only occur for a few seconds.
You probably believe that no one has ever had more than one cell phone line under their name with more than one phone number.
Therefore you come to your conclusions based on your bias & lack of information.  

I will inform you of some facts. 
1. A person can have more than one cell phone line & more than one cell phone using different lines. 
This is true of my brother & my best friend’s girlfriend. 
2. It is possible for a person who has an extra cell phone (with a separate line) to lend that to another person for several weeks/months. 
My brother lent his wife one of his phones for months. My best friend’s girlfriend lent one of her phones to her family member for months. 

Imagine a company looking through your mail, tracking where you go & what you buy to send advertising to you. In the past that would have been intolerable.   
But that is what Google does. It mines data on its apps, ties it to the user and uses that data to send individualized ads to the customer. 
This is how Google makes most of its money. 

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/020515/business-google.asp ;

https://bgr.com/2016/02/11/why-facebook-and-google-mine-your-data-and-why-theres-nothing-you-can-do-to-stop-it/ ;

I minimize that kind of data tracking as much as possible & part of how I do that is to carefully use Apple products to reduce data tracking for ads.
In addition, Apple has top notch customer service & devices which have OS support/updates for many years.  
The Apple ecosystem works well across its devices. 
Apple products by & large are simple to use & yet are very powerful. 

For all those things which benefit me, I’m willing to pay a reasonable amount more.