KITA

coolfactor said:

Apple should embrace RCS. It will only make iMessage that much better.

9secondkox2 said:

chasm said:

macxpress said:

So what are the power numbers for this chip? Sure anything can beat M series chips if it uses more power. 

As mentioned in the article, the 7840u was designed for “thin and light” notebooks, ergo machines comparable to the MacBook Air (only with a fan or two). We won’t know stuff like power consumption and fan noise until this chip goes into an actual production model, but AMD is already writing cheques it may not be able to cash in terms of claims about potential performance, because some factors in any real-world comparison are going to rely on machines built by other companies.

And yet that still doesn’t answer the question about power numbers. 

We’ve got Intel chips meant for thin and light notebooks that melt them down. 

Actual, factual hard numbers is what we need to see. 

Beats said:

KITA said:

Beats said:

qwerty52 said:

tmay said:

linuxplatform said:

"Samsung's latest attempt to take on Apple's AirPods Pro, the Galaxy Buds Live are bean-shaped wireless earphones, that this time includes active noise cancellation."

I have written this in the past. 

1) Samsung was the first to come out with an AirPods type product, preceding the AirPods to market by 6 months.
2) Samsung's AirPods type product have features that AirPods lack.
3) Samsung's AirPods type products do not emulate the AirPods in any way but instead have their own design language.

Seriously, Samsung has been making audio products - from analog headphones to home theater systems that cost nearly $2000 - for decades. They shouldn't be considered a copycat in this area at all.

I suspect that they are referring to marketshare where AirPods dominate in the >$100 market worldwide.

https://wccftech.com/apple-to-sell-more-than-100-million-airpods-in-2020-counterpoint-research/

You sure get bent easy.

Might be bad for your heart, a cost of defending your realm, I suppose.

I don’t know how seriously is Samsung about audio products, but the buds pictured here are AKG

After Apple acquired Beats, Sammy suddenly cared about audio and in a copycat-reflex-move acquired AKG. So basically AKG is Samsung as Beats is Apple.

Samsung acquired HARMAN primarily for their technologies in the automotive industry, which made up the majority of their revenue. AKG was just one of the brands under them.

Right Samsung isn't using AKG at all....

AppleInsider said:

Microsoft also says that it wants to encourage open commerce on its operating system. It will allow apps downloaded from the Windows Store to have independent commerce systems within the app. This differs from Apple's requirements to tie in-app purchases from App Store apps to Apple's commerce system.

9secondkox2 said:

KITA said:

9secondkox2 said:

chasm said:

macxpress said:

So what are the power numbers for this chip? Sure anything can beat M series chips if it uses more power. 

As mentioned in the article, the 7840u was designed for “thin and light” notebooks, ergo machines comparable to the MacBook Air (only with a fan or two). We won’t know stuff like power consumption and fan noise until this chip goes into an actual production model, but AMD is already writing cheques it may not be able to cash in terms of claims about potential performance, because some factors in any real-world comparison are going to rely on machines built by other companies.

And yet that still doesn’t answer the question about power numbers. 

We’ve got Intel chips meant for thin and light notebooks that melt them down. 

Actual, factual hard numbers is what we need to see. 

"Actual, factual hard numbers" are right here.

This is an impressive chip.

Power Mode	Quiet	Performance	Turbo/with PSU	Manual/with PSU
SoC SPL (= PL1)	9 Watts	15 Watts	25 / 30 Watts	15 / 30 Watts
SoC sPPT (= PL2)	14 Watts	20 Watts	30 / 43 Watts	20 / 43 Watts
SoC fPPT (= PL4)	17 Watts	25 Watts	35 / 53 Watts	25 / 53 Watts

Red = Turbo
Green = Performance

Quiet	Performance	Turbo	Turbo battery
CB R15 Multi	1180 points	1727 points	2397 points	2153 points
CB R15 Single	222 points	280 points	280 points	280 points

Whether this chip is in a handheld, laptop or mini desktop, it has a lot of potential.

I'd also note that the ASUS ROG Ally Z1 Extreme is only $699 USD with 16 GB LPDDR5-6400 RAM and 512 GB NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD. So prices for devices with these chips appear to be quite reasonable.

Not doing extrapolations dude. I have no doubt it’s impressive. So are Intels best chips. 

I meant the actual numbers of the SOCs in question as they ran throughout the “benchmarks.” Actual power and thermals - while generating publicized performance. 

actual numbers for the actual part. Not you math project. 

and the world knows benchmarks are only a small part of the story and can be manipulated by less honest companies. Lots of testing has been done with apple silicon compared to processors that beat it in benchmarks only to see Apple Solicon win out in real world usage. 

Marvin said:

blastdoor said:

danvm said:

Marvin said:

blastdoor said:

narwhal said:

Qualcomm and Microsoft will debut Snapdragon X Elite Windows laptops in May that they claim match the specs of a base model M3. I suspect Apple wants to release a faster iPad before then to take a bit of wind from their sails.

We’ll see… the M1 Pro beats the m3 on multithreaded benchmarks. And if Apple had been willing to overclock a single core on the m1, it might have been able to match the m3 on bursty single core benchmarks too. But an M1 Pro uses a lot more power and requires more cooling. 

So if all they’ve done is create something equivalent to an M1 Pro, then they are still behind Apple (and really no better than Intel).

According to recent reports, they were lying:

https://www.semiaccurate.com/2024/04/24/qualcomm-is-cheating-on-their-snapdragon-x-elite-pro-benchmarks/
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/qualcomm-faces-benchmark-cheating-allegations-snapdragon-x-eliteplus-benchmarks-claimed-to-be-fraudulent

OEMs got less than half the performance they claimed. They are also being sued by ARM over their license.

From what I know, it's just one report that claim that Qualcomm is lying.  The second link you posted makes reference to the www.semiaccurate.com article.  I'm looking forward seeing what the real results are.  Based in recent benchmarks, most results have been positive.  We'll see what happens.  

I bet they aren’t “lying” to the extent semi accurate claims. 

But I suspect they are misleading in the sense I described, in which they compare a chip with transistor counts and thermals more like an m1pro (or m2pro) to a vanilla m3.

When they say they have a market-leading ARM chip by comparing a much higher TDP chip to Apple's lowest one, that's lying.

Their TDP for the Elite chip is 80W, which is Max-level power usage.

Benchmarks for GFXBench Aztec Normal offscreen:
Snapdragon X Plus = 136FPS (~25W)
Snapdragon X Elite = 312FPS (up to 80W)

M3 = 323FPS (20W)
M3 Pro = 579FPS (30W)
M3 Max = 867FPS (60W)

Baldur's Gate 3 test, they show the Elite running at 30-40FPS, M3 Max can run this at 90FPS.

Their Plus chip is half M3 and their Max power chip is performing like M3. Their own performance-per-watt tests showed 50-60% better than Intel. Apple is 4-5x better than Intel on performance-per-watt.

This is the kind of thing Intel does where they put more CPU cores in, ramp up the power usage then compare it to Apple's weakest fanless chips.

Snapdragon chips will be competitive with entry-level Intel notebooks but so is a potato. It's well behind even last-gen Pro Macs and Apple will soon launch their next-gen version.

It told Epic that by August 28, Apple will cut off Epic’s access to all development tools necessary to create software for Apple’s platforms—including for the Unreal Engine Epic offers to third-party developers, which Apple has never claimed violated any Apple policy. Not content simply to remove Fortnite from the App Store, Apple is attacking Epic’s entire business in unrelated areas. 

If the Unreal Engine can no longer support Apple platforms, the software developers that use it will be forced to use alternatives.