quadra 610

vonbrick said:

quadra 610 said:

Apple feels the need to roll over on this one because there’s a segment of consumers that are five, and don’t get the point of the way the iPhone functions under the circumstances as explained by Apple. It’s a total non-issue, but sometimes you have to simply bow to the absurd. 

Why is it so impossible for so many to admit that Apple was wrong here?

There is nothing absurd in trying to figure out why your phone...which worked perfectly yesterday...now slows to a crawl after installing an official update.  This is an issue.  And Apple admitted it today.

They screwed this up not by hobbling functioning phones with an update but by not communicating with their customers what that update may look like after installed.  They admitted it.  And now, they’re gonna try to fix it...as they should.

Stop blaming the customer and let Apple fix this.

1. They weren't actually "wrong." Some folks not liking their design decisions doesn't make them "wrong." Maybe misunderstood, but it's at best a matter of semantic word play than anyone being in the wrong. Apple gave in to "the customer is always right...  even when they don't understand perfectly reasonable motives explained in plain english". And since Apple is all about making consumers happy – often no matter what, they decided to roll over on this one. Probably for the best.

2. "now slows to a crawl after installing an official update." Conclusions drawn from assumptions. Will need to know age of phone, model, how it is being used, its condition, and exactly how many people are experiencing this. Personal anecdotes are of no interest. There's nothing here whatsoever from which to draw any conclusions.

3. They admitted to not making something clear that they thought was already understood. Apple taking responsibility doesn't admit of any actual wrongdoing. It's a business decision. Don't read too much into it. Apple's about making customers happy, even the unreasonable ones. 

4. Customers very often a) don't read, b) don't understand even the most basic, straightforward logic, so yeah, I WILL blame the customer in many cases. But as with children who have patient parents, eventually mum and dad will make it all better. 

5. I'm totally not preventing Apple from fixing this.

There is no actual conspiracy here. No "planned obsolescence" or any other cloak-and-dagger nonsense. Planned obsolescence does not sell new iPhones. New iPhones sell new iPhones. 

They implemented a feature they thought made sense, and which they sincerely believed consumers would benefit from. They then went on to explain it, and given its logic, believed consumers would understand and appreciate same. It turned out differently, but not because of any nefarious activity. 

Apple feels the need to roll over on this one because there’s a segment of consumers that are five, and don’t get the point of the way the iPhone functions under the circumstances as explained by Apple. It’s a total non-issue, but sometimes you have to simply bow to the absurd. 

Only Tim Cook can beat Tim Cook at this point. A Riddick Bowe in his prime. 

Musk doesn’t know how to ship, unfortunately, not to mention that Tesla products have serious issues with quality control. Musk can’t get his bread and butter lineup right. Big vision but lousy execution does not a great CEO make. Maybe in future Tesla will look more like an Apple during the second coming of Steve. But not today, and in terms of *this* discussion at least, today is all we really have. 

Anilu_777 said:

Qualcomm is well-known. Who is MediaTek? I heard that the Intel modems weren’t as good as the Qualcomm ones so all iPhones were kept at Intel standards to give uniformity for users. I’d like the best for my device. 

Both are well-known in the industry. 

macxpress said:

quadra 610 said:

saltyzip said:

Apples next iPhone to cost £2000 to pay for all the cockups and legal issues they have gotten themselves into this year.

Probably sarcasm on your part, but in case it isn’t, Apple’s legal fees are negligible compared to the vast sums in their coffers.

Additionally, the goal isn’t always to win cases outright or quickly, or even to win at all. Stalling, settling, or simply losing and paying the problem away, are all available tactics for Apple that in most cases have no effect on their bottom line or on their prices.

You mean like Samsung did in the Apple vs Samsung case? I have to think that Samsung was purposely stalling and dragging the case out to waste as much time and money from Apple's as possible. 

Sure. It’s all part of the game. They can do whatever they like in court, but it’s the products that speak for themslves, and the particular reptuations that both tech giants have earned as a result.