crowley

davidw said:

crowley said:

docbburk said:

If apple puts ads in core is apps, I'm  out.  That cheapens the product and knocks them down closer to the slime that is google. That would take the premium away from the product, so the only way it would be worth getting an iPhone is of they cut the price in half, or gave it away. I value not seeing BS ads and being spammed. 

They already do.  I get bugged about subscribing to Apple Music pretty damn often.

If you are using an Apple device, then technically, that is not an "ad". Apple is not making any money from charging themselves for placing "ads" advertising their own products. That is Apple promoting one of their own product, on their own platform. (Not that it makes it any less bothersome.) But it's something that the EU DMA say that "gatekeepers" can not do because its anti-competitive and that crybaby CEO of Spotify gets all bent out of shape about (when it comes to Apple Music). Not sure if the UK will be enforcing this when the EU DMA goes into affect. But it was also one of the main issue of the US Senate bill (pertaining to promoting ones own product on ones own platform), that hasn't been voted on yet because it doesn't have enough support. 

It's no different than me getting bugged all the time to purchase more iCloud space, whenever it runs low on one of my Apple devices. Or walking into a McDonalds and seeing big posters on their special deal to "super size" your meal. Or while watching a TV show, seeing a 15 seconds blurb during a commercial break, reminding you to  stay tune for a new episode of The Simpsons coming up next.   

Now if you are getting bugged to subscribe to Spotify (or me getting bugged to purchase more One Drive space), while using an Apple app on an Apple device, then that's an "ad". Apple is charging and making money from placing those "ads" in their Apple apps.  When you do a Google search and there are links that has the word "AD" in bold text and in front of it, those are links to "ads", that Google is getting paid for placing in your search results.    

docbburk said:

If apple puts ads in core is apps, I'm  out.  That cheapens the product and knocks them down closer to the slime that is google. That would take the premium away from the product, so the only way it would be worth getting an iPhone is of they cut the price in half, or gave it away. I value not seeing BS ads and being spammed. 

9secondkox2 said:

crowley said:

9secondkox2 said:

Fidonet127 said:

Due to the timeline of how long Apple said they will replace Macs with ASi versions, I don’t think M1 Pro version was really designed. The mini will stay as the consumer computer, the Studio will stay as the prosumer low to medium pro computer, and the Pro will be the high end. The Studio will not cut it for someone who needs 1.5tb of memory and lots of processing power. Yes the Sudio beats some configurations of the Mac Pro. The Studio wasn’t designed in a short time. The Studio took awhile to design and announced when they were ready.  

I’m skeptical of this. 

The Studio is basically a stretch Mini. They just had to take the Mini CAD files, edit the vertical dimensions, add perforations and port cutouts, and attach a simple tapered and perforated cylinder to the bottom. 

The whole thing could have been designed, tested, and machined in a very short period of time, including the big honking fan assembly - which probably explains the numerous fan issues in the first run. 

It's a completely different logic board, completely different cooling, completely different port construction.  There's no reason to think it went through any less of a design process than any other new Apple product, which would not be "a very short period of time".  No way.

Of course those items needed to be laid out and built but it’s a known quantity. Apple was developing the Mac pro and testing likely indicated the m1 ultra or adoubled up version of that wasn’t what they wanted to share a awe as the best they could do. Somewhere in the testing process, the decision was made to not launch at wwdc. And since wwdc I planned far in advance, this gave more than enough time - in a relatively short period of time - to build a stretch Mac mini and have it ready shortly thereafter. It’s not some new avant-garde industrial design and the motherboard isn’t some feat of engineering. 

As Gurkan noted, apple planned to launch the Mac Pro at wwdc but then decided against it. 

There is no way they would have launched the studio and the pro at the same time. They just needed to buy time with a product that doesn’t have a legacy to live up to and can perform for those who need/want the power. 

It’s not bad that it’s a bit of a bridge. It’s just that apple needed to get some serious performance clout but it’s lauded machine is not ready. 

9secondkox2 said:

Fidonet127 said:

Due to the timeline of how long Apple said they will replace Macs with ASi versions, I don’t think M1 Pro version was really designed. The mini will stay as the consumer computer, the Studio will stay as the prosumer low to medium pro computer, and the Pro will be the high end. The Studio will not cut it for someone who needs 1.5tb of memory and lots of processing power. Yes the Sudio beats some configurations of the Mac Pro. The Studio wasn’t designed in a short time. The Studio took awhile to design and announced when they were ready.  

I’m skeptical of this. 

The Studio is basically a stretch Mini. They just had to take the Mini CAD files, edit the vertical dimensions, add perforations and port cutouts, and attach a simple tapered and perforated cylinder to the bottom. 

The whole thing could have been designed, tested, and machined in a very short period of time, including the big honking fan assembly - which probably explains the numerous fan issues in the first run. 

foregoneconclusion said:

crowley said:

Excellent.  The situation of not being able to have a link to a website, or not being able to refer to a website has been an Apple faceplant into ridiculous user unfriendliness that has lasted all too long.

Every app in the App Store lists the name of the developer and every iPhone provides access to the internet. That's how users of apps like Netflix, Spotify and Amazon Kindle were able to successfully purchase things online instead of in the App Store without ever needing a link. Yes, it's less convenient than clinking a link but it's also not much of a barrier to consumers judging by how successful Netflix, Spotify and Amazon were with removing purchases from the App Store many years ago.