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  • Apple to start Indian iPhone manufacturing within next two months

    6502 said:
    melgross said:

    6502 said:
    Neither of which is done in the US, which is shameful. Even more so is Apple seems intent on offshoring their R&D work to China too. This is not the Apple I know.
    melgross said:
    Can't people understand that this isn't manufacturing, it's assembly. There's a difference. Manufacturing is actually the process of making parts, while assembly is just putting them together. Assembly is the lowest value part of manufacturing.
    Lord! We talk about this time and again. Apple, and others have explained this numerous times.

    its not shameful at all. It can't happen here. I really don't know what's wrong with you people. Do you believe that nonsense that Trump spouts? Assembly of phones is done in countries that are developing because American workers will never again work the way they do there. Around the turn of the 19th century to the 20th, we used to have workers live in barracks, buy exclusively from the company store, and send a bit of money home to their families. Mining companies were the last to do this kind of thing.it even inspired a famous song.

    this is the way it works in China, India, and a few other developing nations. People move hundreds, or even thousands of miles to move into a barracks where they have a single size bed with a foot locker, and a cabinet on the wall above the head board, and that's it. If the company needs 10,000 workers late Saturday night, they go into the barracks and wake these people up and put them on the lines. They live that way, often for years.

    there is simply no way that workers in any developed country will ever do that again.

    i can't believe the total lack of understanding some people here, in this country, have about these matters. I just read a financial article that discussed the loss of manufacturing jobs in this country. 13% is due to trade deals, and a whopping 87% is due to automation. What jobs we lost to trade deals is mostly made up by jobs in import industries and distribution, but no jobs are gained, in any real numbers for losses due to automation. This ratio is going to get worse. Even if, somehow, these lines could be automated, and brought here, we would see virtually no job creation. But this is years off.
    We've had manufacturing in the US that didn't require barracks and other things you described; that was well over 100 years ago. The workers at Carrier and Rexnord, just 2 examples, didn't live in barracks; their jobs are now in Mexico so obviously automation didn't take them over. It comes down to greedy executives and greedy Wall Street. The biggest employer 25 years ago was GM - good paying skilled middle class jobs. Today the biggest employer today is Walmart - low skilled minimum wage jobs. We are tuning into a nation of MBAs, logistic managers and bean counters. I shutter to think what is going to happen with the next world war, will we have to beg China to make our planes and tanks since we have no skilled workers in the US to make them?

    And, I'd gladly pay a bit more for an iPhone made in the US but I'm sure Cook and crew would never risk lower their profit margin and therefore their bonus to have this happen. You are basically saying if slave labor cannot make our things then they just won't get made. That is the most shameful of all.
    You don't know the business Apple is in.  You don't know Apple's history.  In fact I think you use a Windows PC. If so you have no right to blame Apple. 
    longpath
  • Apple's iPhone slipping in China because company won't adapt, says Oppo & Vivo founder

    "Apple couldn't beat us in China because even they have flaws," said Duan. 

    His arguments are full of flaws.  Can he explain why Google its Android OS his phones use price the inferior Pixel phones at the same price as iPhone 7s? He is simply diverting the facts that his company copies every aspect of iPhones including the web page is blatant copyright violation of Apple web page. 
    watto_cobra
  • Editorial: An ad-free, premium social network... from Apple

    k2kw said:
    On Russian interference in the US election... 17 US Intel Services agreed that this happened
    1. That was always a lie.
    2. The same ones that said there were WMDs in Iraq, I assume.
    3. There’s zero evidence. Your own leaders admit it now. Get over it.
    Many of them have tried to signal that the beliefs the base has been led to adopt have no basis in reason or evidence.

    The latest official to throw cold water on the MSNBC-led circus is President Obama’s former acting CIA chief Michael Morell. What makes him particularly notable in this context is that Morell was one of Clinton’s most vocal CIA surrogates. In August, he not only endorsed Clinton in the pages of the New York Times but also became the first high official to explicitly accuse Trump of disloyalty, claiming, “In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” But on Wednesday night, Morell appeared at an intelligence community forum to “cast doubt” on “allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.” “On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire at all,” he said, adding, “There’s no little campfire, there’s no little candle, there’s no spark. And there’s a lot of people looking for it.”

    Obama’s former CIA chief also cast serious doubt on the credibility of the infamous, explosive “dossier” originally published by BuzzFeed, saying that its author, Christopher Steele, paid intermediaries to talk to the sources for it. The dossier, he said, “doesn’t take you anywhere, I don’t think.”

    Morell’s comments echo the categorical remarks by Obama’s top national security official, James Clapper, who told Meet the Press last week that during the time he was Obama’s DNI, he saw no evidence to support claims of a Trump/Russia conspiracy. “We had no evidence of such collusion,” Clapper stated unequivocally. Unlike Morell, who left his official CIA position in 2013 but remains very integrated into the intelligence community, Clapper was Obama’s DNI until just seven weeks ago, leaving on January 20.

    Perhaps most revealing of all are the Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee — charged with investigating these matters — who recently told BuzzFeed how petrified they are of what the Democratic base will do if they do not find evidence of collusion, as they now suspect will likely be the case. “There’s a tangible frustration over what one official called ‘wildly inflated’ expectations surrounding the panel’s fledgling investigation,” BuzzFeed’s Ali Watkins wrote.

    Moreover, “several committee sources grudgingly say, it feels as though the investigation will be seen as a sham if the Senate doesn’t find a silver bullet connecting Trump and Russian intelligence operatives.” One member told Watkins: “I don’t think the conclusions are going to meet people’s expectations.”

    What makes all of this most significant is that officials like Clapper and Morell are trained disinformation agents; Clapper in particular has proven he will lie to advance his interests. Yet even with all the incentive to do so, they are refusing to claim there is evidence of such collusion; in fact, they are expressly urging people to stop thinking it exists. As even the law recognizes, statements that otherwise lack credibility become more believable when they are ones made “against interest.”
    In my experience the MSM bases its information on solid fact based reporting and rarely gets a story wrong.
    Your experience is wrong, then.

    "That was always a lie"

    Sorry, contrary to the rightwing FakeNews sites, it is very very true...  And it scares Rump to death.   That's why he invented his "Obama Wire Tapped my Phones" line.  He's trying to muddy the waters before he's evicted from his newest mansion to an even bigger house -- the BigHouse.  Unfortunately except for the brainwashed rightwingers, the whole world seems to be laughing at him.

    here's some facts as opposed to the fake news propaganda started by the left.

    1.   The original attacks on judges began with Obama's attacks on the Supreme Court in his state of the union address after the Citizen's Free Speech decision.

    2.   Obama began attacking news by calling Fox Fake news.

    3.   Obama' CIA/NSA did hack German Chancellor Merkal.    Not a stretch to think that the CIA is out of control and hacking Trump. 

    4..    Hillary's Ambassador was overheard conspiring in the overthrow of the democratically elected president of Ukraine which is what precipitated the annexation of Crimea and the current civil war.   Unsurprising Ukraine's Finance minister became an American citizen who had served in Bill Clinton's state department (Natalie Jarekso).   

    5.    Our country is subject to hacking from China all the time.   Maybe the hacks were against the republicans who were smart enough to secure their Networks.

    6.    American jobs are not going to Russia.    This is about wall street being able to control of international finance with China.  And thus why Clinton received twice the money as Trump (most from Wall Street).    Trump won because workers in rust belt states wouldn't vote for the Clintons who started the original "screw the blue collar worker" with NAFTA.  Mass delusion seems to have embraced the Clintonites and Progressives since they blame just about anything else.    Democratic's embrace of Illegal Aliens is a also anti-American worker that has motivated many voters to support Trump.


    When you say "Obama' CIA/NSA", this is a distortion from facts. 
    ronn
  • Editorial: An ad-free, premium social network... from Apple

    tzeshan said:
    adamc said:

    Most of this is good analysis, but when Daniel talks about "Fake news", don't forget he's a hard core marxist.
    "Fake news" has an actual meaning. It refers specifically to invented stories published to troll or make money. You might get upset by media reports that you don't like or assume to be biased, but that's another thing entirely. The rest of your word salad is as completely nuts as the president's 4AM tweets.
    "Fake news" is itself a propaganda term created by the Left to suppress dissent. Thanks to the President's unwillingness to play along with that game, it's really blown up in the faces of CNN, BuzzFeed and the many mainstream outlets that have been pushing it.

    I suspect this thread will soon be locked, so with regard to Apple creating yet another social network, I just don't see it. They're bad at it. They can't make money at it and it's not in their DNA. 
    I normally find your argument very logical but this one really piqued my curiosity as to why you consider 'fake news' as a propaganda terms by the Left to suppress dissent so in other words you are saying fake news are factual news that one can counter check with other websites. Is there a sarcasm tag missing or you really meant whatever you are saying that you are a trump supporter.
    The term "fake news" was, in fact, created by the Left. That's indisputable. It is a redefinition and dumbing down of the term "propaganda" and has been repurposed by the Left to quash opposing viewpoints, regardless of the source being attacked.
    I didn't know Trump is considered to be from the left!
    Trump co-opted the term to use it as a cudgel against a fundamentally corrupt and dishonest press. He didn't invent it. 
    No.  The press do not make up stories.  They publish stories that are provided to them by parties that have purposes.  Some press like the "Inquirer?" could make up story.  But if they do they will be caught easily. So it is the CULTURE that like to make up stories.  
    Not, really...  Not anymore....   Right Wing radio host Mark Levin made up the story about Obama tapping Rump's phone and then Breitbart picked it up and Rump repeated it as fact -- even while every intelligence and law agency has said that is total nonsense.  FakeNews.   More recently, Napolitano on FoxNews stated that British intelligence had tapped Rump's phone and now, not only is British intelligence saying that is FakeNews but FoxNews is even saying it was FakeNews!

    But, it's important to realize that FoxNews has been spinning their yarns for 20 years by using just enough actual facts that their spin cannot be called a TOTAL lie.   But, it's such a distortion of the truth that it qualifies as FakeNews.   But, I find it REALLY interesting that even they appear to be becoming horrified at the proliferation of FakeNews coming out of the Rump administration and right wing propaganda sites.

    Personally, I don't think Obama had to tap Rump's phone.   He already had camera in his microwave!  (KellyAnne Conway told us so!).


    This CULTURE has deteriorated further.  The ISIS is not destroying western culture.  The western culture is self-destroying.  Previously the press is protected by the "freedom of speech act".  But at higher level, integrity, shame were still accountable.  Now the shameless has been elevated to the highest level.  And the CULTURE can not do anything.  Because the party that has the power now is not willing to press for truths like millions illegals voted in the last presidential election, etc. The press was given the status of a king but is is actually a king without clothes. 
    tallest skil
  • New photo of Apple's iPhone repair and calibration machine surfaces online

    This is one of the Apple superior technologies competitors try to steal with the help of the reporter paying a bounty.
    watto_cobra