Neooffice 2.1 Released
After a long hiatus, it looks like the project has picked up steam again (probably due to OpenOffice Aqua development).
You can get the 2.1 release of Neooffice here:
http://download.neooffice.org/neojav...d.php#download
You can get the 2.1 release of Neooffice here:
http://download.neooffice.org/neojav...d.php#download
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I'll give'em a try later.
Away with the linux/wintendo icons!
It feels a lot snappier on my machine... (intel1.83ghz)
I tried to download but I got an error page. They must be slammed.
I'll give'em a try later.
It should work now. I used the torrent, all the mirrors were sloooooow.
How is this giong for everyone? I have played around with it quite a bit and am thinking about dumping Word and Excel in favor of NeoOffice. File compatibility is the only thing left holding me in the MS world of software (excluding Autocad LT).
I think it's still too slow. Hopefully a native OpenOffice will improve this by not using Java. Interface elements still flicker too much and the launch time for new documents and the app itself is sluggish.
When you see how quickly Office goes on a Windows machine, all the word editing packages for OS X are disappointing. The only one that comes close is TextEdit. I use Pages instead of NeoOffice these days for text docs but on occasions I use NeoOffice for spreadsheets. Pages is slow too though. Appleworks is pretty speedy, I wish they'd get that kind of speed into Pages.
Check out this Slashdot post by Ed Peterlin, lead developer for NeoOffice:
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.p...7&cid=18975159
Trust me, once any OS X port of OOo starts getting font handling and input methods correct, it'll slow down as well. This is true especially for Asian and other foreign languages. The bottleneck is in Apple's ATSUI and how it mismatches to the underlying OOo code. Has nothing to do with Java at all. Speed in a vaporware demo is one thing; carrying speed into a functional product is something different completely.
And if you think that, while Sun and OpenOffice continue to struggle to port OpenOffice to Mac, Ed and Neooffice will soldier on, this latest development should concern you:
http://trinity.neooffice.org/modules...rder=1&thold=0
Re: Open Letter to Jonathan Schwartz (Score: 1)
by vicjoe on Saturday, May 05 @ 02:07:23 PDT
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This is so depressing. The "send free beer" sounds to me like defeat in the face of irrational opposition. I've spent several hours reading threads at OOo and blogs, and there are a lot of people pulling for NeoOffice.
This is a crucial moment for people to step up to the plate ($$); as I understand it, there are a few bumps in the road, one being changes to the latest Apple iteration of Java that are challenging, there is no more OOo development of the X11 version, hence the newest code is no longer available to the NeoOffice team, and the announcement of Sun providing 2 full-time programmers to the OOo Aqua port will cause some expectant (naive?) users to withhold donations to NeoOffice (the OOo Aqua version will be Carbon, not Cocoa, btw). Fact is, Sun has made promises concerning the Mac platform before and has failed to deliver; also there is some kind of weird hubris among the OOo people, who seem to have marginalized NeoOffice, e.g. where the only link you can find in OOo pages to NeoOffice is from their Wiki......
So there you have it. The future looks bleak for Mac office software users, unless KOffice 2.0 is successfully natively ported to OS X or the next version of iWork contains a spreadsheet program.
I think it's still too slow. Hopefully a native OpenOffice will improve this by not using Java. Interface elements still flicker too much and the launch time for new documents and the app itself is sluggish.
When you see how quickly Office goes on a Windows machine, all the word editing packages for OS X are disappointing. The only one that comes close is TextEdit. I use Pages instead of NeoOffice these days for text docs but on occasions I use NeoOffice for spreadsheets. Pages is slow too though. Appleworks is pretty speedy, I wish they'd get that kind of speed into Pages.
It feels a lot snappier on my machine... (intel1.83ghz)
I don't know what is your reference point, but on older machines it is incredibly heavy for a word processor program. Actually it is the heaviest application after Photoshop and demanding games
Or you could wait until Office 2008 is released this year. I just hope it doesn't "feature" the terrible interface of Office 2007 on Windoze.
oh it is, dont worry about it. have a look
http://images.google.co.uk/images?sv...=Search+Images
oh it is, dont worry about it. have a look
http://images.google.co.uk/images?sv...=Search+Images
Oh, f*ckin' Gross! lol
Honestly, that's nowhere near the suck that is the Office 2007 interface. Unlike Office 2007, at least we'll still be able to use regular menus instead of the ribbon if we so choose. And those are just samples of the interface. We'll see. Don't throw it out just yet.
true, we'll have to wait and see. i just want it a universal version of office.
How is this giong for everyone? I have played around with it quite a bit and am thinking about dumping Word and Excel in favor of NeoOffice. File compatibility is the only thing left holding me in the MS world of software (excluding Autocad LT).
I've been using NeoOffice for a few weeks. It's okay, but I don't think it's a good substitute for MS Office. I really hate saying that. I would like nothing better than to ditch MS. I have even tried Google's word processor - so so. Google has a spread sheet also, but I haven't tried it.
One thing that commends NeoOffice is it's ability to translate files other than MS. When I switched to Mac over 5 years ago, I had a lot of WordPerfect files. I copied them to my Mac, but I couldn't open them with MS. However, NeoOffice can translate them and I was able to retrieve what I thought were lost files.
The only thing I don't like about NeoOffice is its startup speed.
I see, lightning speed.
This is promising software but it still needs a lot of work.
I'm worried that a native Mac OpenOffice won't happen for technical reasons.
Check out this Slashdot post by Ed Peterlin, lead developer for NeoOffice:
Hmm, well, he should be very happy soon. (Sorry, I can't recall if that's been talked about publicly by Apple or not, so I'm going to be light on details.)
I see, lightning speed.
This is promising software but it still needs a lot of work.
I'd rather it was killed altogether, and the servers hosting it be burned down with Fire and Garlic (for good measure) and the remains be stuffed into an airtight container that's dropped to the bottom of the ocean, right next to Spotlight. I recently downloaded the Nisus Writer Pro Public Beta 1 and I'm thoroughly impressed with it. I'm really hoping this isn't priced anymore than $60-$100 when it's released.
Sebastian
It lacks refinement but is an excellent Word Processor and Spreadsheet in place of MS Office if you want to run legal and not spend the cash.
I eagerly await future versions. KOffice would be great to have on the Mac natively.
I will say that NO Spreadsheet was a better substitute for Excel than NO Docuemnt was for Word while both were absolutely great.
http://cafe.elharo.com/ui/why-vrml-f...or-openoffice/